Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/And we drown/Archive

19 May 2013

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And we drown quarreled with other editors over categories at multiple articles, before announcing on his user page that he was quitting Wikipedia. See here. Ouroborosian began editing on May 10, 2013, very soon after And we drown stopped editing, on April 3, 2013. Ouroborosian's behavior at Camille Paglia shows that Ouroborosian and And we drown are accounts operated by the same person. And we drown added the "LGBT scientists" category to Camille Paglia, quickly restoring it after it was removed by another editor. See here. The edit summary used was, "She is a media theorist, which is a social scientist, which is a scientist." Ouroborosian has behaved in exactly the same way, rapidly restoring the "LGBT scientists" category after it was removed:. The edit summary used was, "Read category description, she is a media theorist, which is a social scientist." The argument is exactly the same as And we drown's, and the language used is extremely similar. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 21:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Additionally, the user compare tool shows that Ouroborosian, who only began editing some ten days ago, has already edited 52 of the same articles as And we drown. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * Where's the abuse? There is no overlap in edits by a mile. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 22:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The abuse is that an editor has shifted to a different account to continue a disruptive pattern of behavior. I don't know what you mean by "there is no overlap in edits." There is a large overlap - near-identical behavior at one article, plus 52 articles edited in common. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:27, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that And we drown's last edit was on April 3, while Ouroborosian's first edit was on May 10. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 22:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. That's perfectly consistent with Ouroborosian being a sock of And we drown. And we drown insulted other editors and called them "cunts", and thus has an incentive to edit under different accounts. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Clearly not a fresh start, as the account did not "avoid editing patterns or behaviors that would allow other users to recognize and identify the account". This wide of an overlap doesn't have any justification listed under Sock puppetry, either. Closest match is WP:ILLEGIT:"Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts. Account blocked. In deference to King of Hearts position that this was not a clearly abusive use of alternate accounts, I have not blocked or tagged User:And we drown, only warned him.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

11 July 2013

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Behavior of the IP is consistent with And we drown, and with And we drown's previous, now blocked sock Ouroborosian (please see the previous SPI). In particular, its behavior at Camille Paglia shows it is And we drown. And we drown added Category:LGBT scientists to the Paglia article despite opposition to this from other editors (see here and here and here) and Ouroborosian did the same, as seen here. IP is repeating this pattern, as seen here. This is disruptive behavior inasmuch as it shows an insistence on adding the category no matter what other editors think, and a willingness to use multiple accounts to do this. If the behavior is not precisely identical to And we drown's previous socks, this is probably simply because it hopes to avoid detection by behaving slightly differently. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 02:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

User compare report shows the IP and And we drown have edited 125 of the same articles. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * I don't see the overlap, so it looks like they abandoned the account. Looks very much the same, and editing logged out is a problem, but unless they are both voting in the same discussion or making it look like they are unrelated, I can't see blocking.  Closing. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  12:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)