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See Draft:Vlach-Bulgarian royal charters, created by Angel angel 2, and the talk page, with a comment from the ip user. I doubt an ip user would be able to find and comment on this specific draft without prior information. See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ohrid_Literary_School&diff=prev&oldid=931601195 and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ohrid_Literary_School&diff=prev&oldid=959611505&diffmode=source See also Bulgarian occupation of Serbia (World War I) which was created by angel angel and later edited by the ip here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgarian_occupation_of_Serbia_(World_War_I)&diff=prev&oldid=958479741&diffmode=source

Most significantly, the user has the exact POV and statements. See Draft talk:Vlach-Bulgarian royal charters and Talk:Day of Slavonic Alphabet, Bulgarian Enlightenment and Culture, where the user states that up until the 19th century Cyrillic, not Latin, was used in Romania. Zoozaz1 (talk) 00:22, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * They indeed seem to have a similar viewpoint and there is unmistakable overlap on the indicated draft. The IP seems pretty stable, so I've blocked one month for block evasion. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:01, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * (AA2) is an editor who had been active in a very specific subtopic of the Balkan topic area: medieval Bulgarian influence in the western Balkans and Greece. They marked all of their edits as minor and created stub WP:CFORK articles for already covered Balkan geography topics like Articles for deletion/Northern Thessaly. They also seem to have had a focus on "proving" the Bulgarian origin of modern Greeks . They have been indefinitely blocked since January 15 2020.
 * is an IP editor who has been blocked as a sock of AA2 on September 10 2020. The IP made edits on Vagenetia and other similar articles about Bulgarian-Slavic presence in modern Greece.
 * created their account on August 3 2020. They mark all of their edits as minor, focus on the same specific subtopic as Angel Angel 2 and create stub WP:FORKs for already existing geography articles (Serbia Transmontana) . Immediately after account creation Bodinski2 and X.237 began to collaborate, stack revert other editors and take part in the same AfDs (Articles for deletion/History of Wallachia_. After X.237 was blocked, Bodinski2 began to reinstate their removed edits. Bodinski2 shares AA2's focus on the Bulgarian origin of modern Greeks (Bulgari from Corfu).
 * Pinging who has blocked X.237 and  who has had extensive editing interaction with all accounts. Maleschreiber (talk) 19:29, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have to agree that the WP:DUCK is strong with this one, especially after this edit, which reverted a rather obscure article to the (ridiculously POV) state that had been last edited by the IP account above. If he is the same user, he has apparently learned to edit more carefully (Angel Angel's content was such that all kinds of flags went up just from glancing at it), but I don't doubt for a moment that the underlying motivation is the same, since the inability to do a) proper research and b) adopt a balanced POV wrt his subjects continues to show through. Constantine  ✍  13:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Master is beyond, and we won't confirm accounts to IP data. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:04, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking at the interaction report, this could be socking, or it could equally be two distinct users who are both interested in Bulgarian history. I'll leave this open for a while in case you have some better evidence to add.  What we'd be looking for is specific pairs of diffs, one from the sock and one from the master, demonstrating more than a shared interest in a common subject.  I've left a uw-login warning on Bodinski's talk page, but given what I've got now, I don't think we can go any further. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing. If further evidence comes to light, please open a new case. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:03, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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User restored a page originally created by, is interested in the Bulgarian city of Kyustendil     (if you search the geographic location of , a confirmed puppet of Angel Angel 2, you get Kyustendil), engages in typical discrediting acts regarding Romanians or Romanian language    (see comments regarding the country of this user from other accounts ), follows Angel Angel 2 and puppets' common practice of mass creating short problematic pages, highly disruptive overall. Super  Ψ   Dro  10:12, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I would have expected this user would have been blocked before creating 6 new pages. Super   Ψ   Dro  14:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * This looks like a WP:DUCK. I have filed a report about another AA2 sock . The similarities are too many to be attributed to a common Balkan background.--Maleschreiber (talk) 11:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree looks like WP:DUCK. Adding disruptive nationalistic POV content across multiple Balkan related articles. Polyamorph (talk) 18:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * I'm always hesitant to call something a true DUCK when it comes to nationalistic POV. People often take very similar stances, or make similar edits, in that realm. The behavioral evidence is pretty clear here, but IMO still leaves room for that. . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 05:31, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Depending on how I interpret the data, Ivano Giambattista is either ❌ or to an account in the archives.  Definitely . -- RoySmith (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Roy. Conveniently, I suppose, the edit history since I endorsed tips me over the edge toward blocking. Cat is a surprisingly distinctive ES, and we've had a load of it here, cf. master's contribs and even more glaringly Bodinski2's. The edit war that has developed at is also very telling. Every previous substantive addition to that article has been by AA2 or a sock thereof, and that is the content that IG is restoring. If this isn't a sock of AA2, it's someone working closely enough in concert with them that they should still be treated as one. : Please block Ivano Giambattista indefinitely as a suspected sock of Angel Angel 2. Special:Nuke/Ivano Giambattista may also be worthwhile, although I'm happy to G5 it all manually if the reviewing admin prefers.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 16:31, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * : Article creations nuked. clpo13(talk) 20:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Simply take a look at this and then at this. Super  Ψ   Dro  10:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * It's the same IP they were blocked on back in 2020 - that's pretty stable! Blocking for a year, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  11:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)