Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Angryjo2012london/Archive

10 August 2012

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This user has made a pointy AfD nomination after an article they created related to Olympic controversy was deleted per criterion G10. A few hours after they were made aware of the existence of an existing article on a related subject, a brand new account initiated a SNOW closure of the ongoing AfD for the second article. Requesting CU since while the new account is highly suspicious, the sock master account link is less definite. VQuakr (talk) 23:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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All I did was try and close an Afd that has not a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding, as it clearly does not. I think it's pretty tenuous to claim that this spontaneous act of doing good for Wikipedia on my behalf, therefore makes me an obvious sock of either a), someone who had another related article deleted, or b), someone who had recently been blocked while editting the article subject to the Afd. We cannot all be the same person, unless that person is simultanously claiming to know policy (FerrerFour) while doing a pretty good impression of not knowing it (Angryjo2012london), while also simply ignoring it in favour of common sense (me). Why would anyone bother to construct such an elaborate triumverate of personalities? What dastardly deed could be achieved with a trio of such diverse socks? Surely the most obvious explanation is the truth - I came across this article while doing a bit of Olympics related reading tonight, I saw a need for a SNOW closure, so I did it, and until this report, I had never heard of these other two editors. I took me a few moments to even realise FerrerFour had made a comment in the Afd. He declined to vote so isn't counted, so it can't even be said that we were attempting to sock in order to vote stack the Afd (a theory which only becomes valid after my accuser here had reversed my closure, necessitating me voting keep). HeCameFromTheShadows (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, that's not ALL you did. You created a new Username shortly before taking action on that page. And I don't think you're really a new editor on Wikipedia. Your motives may be completely innocent (I'm open minded), but appearing as a well informed, brand new user in a controversial place inevitably promotes suspicion. HiLo48 (talk) 00:14, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And where exactly did I claim to be a brand new user? Denying being FerrerFour/Angryjo2012london is not the same as claiming to be brand new. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that someone whose first edit is to SNOW close an Afd is not new. I was rather assuming this would be taken as read by whoever acts on this report, but to make it crystal clear, yes, I hereby declare that I am not new to Wikipedia (yet I am no sock, either). That being said, I repeat my view that this is not sufficient reason to go poking into my private data. Registering a new account and editing in a controversial topic (the Olympics?) is not sufficient grounds, as they say in the legal world. HeCameFromTheShadows (talk) 00:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 23:42, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note that two of the socks are already linked via WP:DUCK. See Sockpuppet investigations/FerrerFour which may need combining. Again, a check for sleepers is asked. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 23:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/FerrerFour will show any connections between HeCameFromTheShadows and FerrerFour, but there is insufficent evidence presented to link to the accused master, especially since the only evidence presented on that possible connection is "the sock master account link is less definite". -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  01:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Other case is on hold, closing this one. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 13:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)