Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aqww/Archive

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Zessede tried to add material twice but was undone by another editor ( and ). Then Aqww added it again. It seems almost too coincidental. MGetudiant (talk) 12:52, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * User:RoySmith and User:Ivanvector, thank you for your comments. I thought that Aqww was the mobile alternate account of Zessede but that they were the same person because of the timing. I did not want to waste your time.
 * Ivanvector's suggestion to compare Zessede with Traineek is actually an interesting one. They both edited topics central to Korean nationalist historiography at Buyeo, Balhae, Goguryeo/Goguryeo controversies, etc. about non-Chineseness / Manchurianess of ancient kingdoms related to modern-day Korea. They also use similar language about this and have an obsession with the Northeast Project . But maybe this is just popular in some modern-day Korean movements. I would not be surprised if a particularly enthusiastic person is behind more than one of these though. MGetudiant (talk) 15:58, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 14:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The technical data says . They geolocate to the same country, but that's about it.  If there was extensive iron-clad behavioral evidence for socking, that could be enough, but I'm not seeing that, so I'll just close this. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I was also checking this when RoySmith was, and came to the same conclusion. I believe this case should be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/Traineek, although there are no findings there. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing, per further investigation below. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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User:RoySmith and User:Ivanvector, this newest one has to be the same person! Accplc1213 just did the same thing as Zessede, Aqww, and Traineek at Buyeo:. MGetudiant (talk) 06:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * User:RoySmith, sorry I did not mean to weaponize this forum. I only thought that it was weird that the three accounts made the same exact edit multiple times one after the other. I did not mean to waste your time or weaponize this venue, sorry! MGetudiant (talk) 10:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @MGetudiant Not a problem. My apologies for being abrupt; I worded my note more strongly than it should have been.  When we've been tracking a WP:LTA for a while, we often have a strong idea of what we're looking for so triggering an SPI on just a few edits might make sense.  But other than that, it probably makes more sense to be patient.  If they really are socking, it'll be pretty obvious eventually.  From my point of view, I need to be able to justify every check I make as a CU if asked, so I need to be conservative about which checks I do. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Accplc1213 has a total of 4 edits. That's way too little history to be forming any coherent body of evidence about socking.  I'll go further than that; both CU requests (today and yesterday) in this case were on accounts with very limited editing history.  Looking at Sockpuppet investigations/Traineek, much the same is true there.  Continually jumping on accounts with these small number of edits is starting to look like fishing and/or weaponizing of SPI.  I'm going to close this with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

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Pinged by on my talk page. Q1A1Z is clearly a sock, making ten edits and then restoring the same edit that Aqww and Zessede have been edit-warring back into the semiprotected Buyeo. More below.

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 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other:
 * They appear to have trouble remembering which password they're using on which account, and have also tried to log in as a number of usernames which are capitalized dictionary words with numeral 1s between each letter, but none except the one listed exist on this wiki. I am blocking all of these now but I am not done here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Zessede is ❌ to this group. I spent a while investigating and checking against a couple other SPIs I'm aware are active in this subject area, but could not establish any useful technical connections. I will re-file this case under Aqww given the finding. Closing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * They appear to have trouble remembering which password they're using on which account, and have also tried to log in as a number of usernames which are capitalized dictionary words with numeral 1s between each letter, but none except the one listed exist on this wiki. I am blocking all of these now but I am not done here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Zessede is ❌ to this group. I spent a while investigating and checking against a couple other SPIs I'm aware are active in this subject area, but could not establish any useful technical connections. I will re-file this case under Aqww given the finding. Closing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Zessede is ❌ to this group. I spent a while investigating and checking against a couple other SPIs I'm aware are active in this subject area, but could not establish any useful technical connections. I will re-file this case under Aqww given the finding. Closing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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 * 1) Both Tprtm and the IP are active on topics related to Korean history and international relations. They have been active in the same articles at the same time, especially for edit warring, see Gojoseon (25 min interval), Ōei Invasion  (20 min), Yemaek  (2 weeks), Qing invasion of Joseon  (4 days). The changes in each article were all identical or similar. There were other cases of identical edits at the same time but on different articles, for example,.
 * 2) Tprtm is created at the same time the IP tried to edit the article Balhae . Then Tprtm immediately went to edit the same article after a few irrelevant edits.
 * 3) Both are active on English, Chinese, Russian and Japanese Wikipedias . They have made few edits to the Korean Wikipedia despite likely being native Korean speakers. Recently they also attempted the same change on a Chinese Wikipedia page two weeks apart . Both occasionally add ungrammatical sentences to enwiki articles, although they seem to have a good command of English – either that or they are using translation softwares to edit. Neither of them ever engage in discussions or write on talk pages in any of the projects. Esiymbro (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * This is too malicious to let them off with a simple uw-login but not malicious enough for a long-term block. blocked for one week and left a note, IP blocked for a month. Closing. DatGuyTalkContribs 16:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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Possible sock or meat puppet. IP seems to be roughly in the same location as Tprtm's sock IP:. Edit warring on the same subjects on the same issue: name listing on Korean historical articles. Balhae:, , / , ,. Overlapping edits on Gojoseon:, /. Qiushufang (talk) 12:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Recent behavior displays similar idiosyncratic vocabulary. After Kor Ph was blocked for edit warring, Tprtm continued on the same page and their edit summary calls other wiki articles "documents" like Kor Ph: See, , and , , .  Qiushufang (talk) 04:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Same push for inclusion of legendary origins: Tprtm -, , , , , , ,  Kor Ph - , ,  Qiushufang (talk) 04:32, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * Kor Ph is to Tprtm.   -- RoySmith (talk) 02:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * A conclusion about the IP was reached in the last SPI. About, I believe the phrasing can be explained by both users having the same nationality, and the POV not being a particularly rare one. Considering this and the weak CU result, . DatGuyTalkContribs 13:36, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Tprtm was created a month after Aqww's socks were blocked. Early in their edit history, Tprtm displayed behaviour attempting to mimic an unrelated new account by editing unrelated topics before reverting to their primary interest:.

Both Aqww and Tprtm have a working command of English and a habit of writing fully formed sentences with punctuation at the end in their edit summaries. Both edited the same passage on the Gaya Confederacy at Three Kingdoms of Korea:.

Sock Q1A1Z uploaded an without a reliable source on media commons. Both Q1A1Z and Tprtm have added this image to the same articles on the EN/ZH wiki versions in addition to other pages only on the Chinese wiki. They both engaged in prolonged edit warring on the Chinese wiki page 中國人民志願軍 from June to December 2022. Tprtm's sock IP also participated in the edit war despite being warned and blocked on the English wiki a month prior:. Q1A1Z and Tprtm also edit warred over the image at 战俘:.

All three accounts (+IP) are active on topics related to Korean history and politics on multiple language versions of wiki including English, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. The three accounts edit primarily in English and Chinese while only the IP has edited in Korean. Considering their interests and multilingual editing, it's likely they are fluent in Korean, so the absence of edits on registered accounts may indicate their original account there has been blocked. The multi-language editing primarily in English and Chinese reminds me of another sock case involving the same interests and languages:. Qiushufang (talk) 03:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Tprtm is, all of the other accounts are stale..
 * please merge Sockpuppet investigations/Tprtm into this case. Thanks.
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that I have unblocked Tprtm per a discussion on their talk page, subject to a one-account restriction. I still think it's a good idea for the cases to be merged - even though the editor is using a different account from the master, they have admitted they are the same person and the investigations should be kept in one place. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:26, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that I have unblocked Tprtm per a discussion on their talk page, subject to a one-account restriction. I still think it's a good idea for the cases to be merged - even though the editor is using a different account from the master, they have admitted they are the same person and the investigations should be kept in one place. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:26, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * - Please, histmerge Sockpuppet investigations/Tprtm to Sockpuppet investigations/Aqww. I can take care of the archives later. Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ (I hope?). Sockpuppet investigations/Tprtm/Archive is still there, tag it for G6 when you're finished. DatGuyTalkContribs 15:17, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Archives merged and redirected. MarioGom (talk) 21:30, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
IP and user edited within two minutes of each other on the same article: Goryeo–Khitan War. Same viewpoint: Goryeo victory. . The second IP reverted the user's additions, but the user has been pretty shoddy in their revisions in general. See broad unsourced revision at Third conflict in the Goryeo–Khitan War. Previously the user had been unblocked by subject to a one account restriction. For Win8050. See article overlap. Edits on multiple wiki language versions (EN, KO, JP) like Tprtm including the Japanese version of Goryeo-Khitan War that Tprtm and their prior account, Q1A1Z, also worked on following and before Win8050. On EN, Win8050 also worked on Goryeo–Khitan War, Second conflict in the Goryeo–Khitan War. Similar editing habits between Win8050 and Tprtm. They generally capitalize their edit summaries and have fully formed sentences with punctuation at the end even if the summary is very short. Win8050: Tprtm: Aqww: Qiushufang (talk) 16:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * I went into this thinking the behavioural evidence is very weak, but just enough to validate running a check. That check returned an result. The IP, without commenting on any possible technical relation, edited only once so I wouldn't say there's any pattern there. I did see a few logged-out edits by  that are teetering between the allowed WP:EWLO and the disallowed WP:LOUTSOCK, but not enough for a block, so I've left them a soft uw-login. Other than that, . DatGuyTalkContribs 16:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)