Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AramaeanSyriac/Archive

Report date July 28 2009, 22:08 (UTC)

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 * Evidence submitted by Shmayo

User:SyrianskaFC is probably a sockpuppet of User:ArameanSyriac (other sockpuppets: User:JeanVinelorde). See his edit history. He pasting text from an old article ("Aramean-Syriac people", which ArameanSyriac wrote very much in) into "Arameans". And you can see the connection especially when it comes to the emythology of Syria. See what SyrianskaFC wrote in the article Syria (in the "emythology" section), and then what ArameanSyriac wrote in Name of Syria before. Same things. Shmayo (talk) 22:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Is there any way to see User:AramaeanSyriac user page again? On SyrianskaFC's user page the only text is "Hellow", I can almost remember that ArameanSyriac also had that "Hellow" in his page. Not sure though. Shmayo (talk) 22:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


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 * Conclusions
 * Did some digging into this. ✅. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Tiptoety  talk 01:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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User:AramaeanSyriac is probably back again. Already confirmed sockpuppets are: User:JeanVinelorde, User:SyrianskaFC (se old investigation: Sockpuppet investigations/AramaeanSyriac/Archive) and later also User:Dejwono. User:Surayt has just done three edits, but you can already see that it probably is User:AramaeanSyriac. He is trying to create the deleted article Syriacs (also sometimes called Aramaean-Syriac people and Syriac people, all three now redirecting to another article so please see history of old articles), which all User:AramaeanSyriacs old sockpuppets have tried. His thrid edit is again starting the edit war in article Shlama, which his last sockpuppet User:Dejwono did the exactly same edit several times. Shmayo (talk) 17:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * ✅, account blocked. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Ian.thomson
Pretty much the same name, pretty much the same edits, edit warring with User:Shmayo and replacing references to Assyrians with Aramaeans without concern for what the references say (and removing references that say otherwise). Quack, quack, dudes. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 15:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Shmayo
User:AramaeanSyriac's sixth(?) sockpuppet. It's pretty clear. Very similar edits to his and his other sockpuppets (Sockpuppet_investigations/AramaeanSyriac/Archive) edits. Again creating the same fork and again adding same material to the etymology-section in the article Syria. Shmayo (talk) 02:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. TN X Man 13:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Uncle Dick
POV edits on Syria-related articles. Made edits to Syriac flag and Syria consistent with previous socks like Dejwono (see here and here). Uncle Dick (talk) 18:27, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

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Quack quack. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
All the accounts from the archive are. However, these two accounts are matches to each other, especially given this edit summary and this edit summary. TN X Man 18:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm calling it. Accounts tagged and blocked. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 18:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Shmayo
User:AramaeanSyriac is back again. Some old sockpuppets: User:SyrianskaFC, User:Surayt, User:SyrianaAram, User:Suroyono. The edit pattern is the same as AS and all his sockpuppet. There is not much to be said, just check the sockpuppet archive for User:AramaeanSyriac, the same things that have been said there everytime. Notice that he opened an account with the same name in Swedish Wikipedia and was quickly blocked for his usual sockpuppetry. Shmayo (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Just adding some other old sockpuppets: User:Dejwono, User:Pioneeer131 and User:Nisibina.

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 * Adding SPI; there are some non-stale accounts in the archive. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:06, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ the following:
 * TN X Man 16:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * TN X Man 16:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * All blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

16 April 2011

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See earlier cases and evidence: Sockpuppet_investigations/AramaeanSyriac/Archive. Again editing the same section in Syria (which have been discussed, but he keep on editing that section). Trying to call everything with Osroene/Edessa Aramean, the city and it's kings (Abgar etc.). The same with Midyat. Same pattern as earlier sockpuppets. Pretty obvious. Shmayo (talk) 00:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

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 * Per WP:DUCK I've blocked and tagged the sock. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

01 January 2012

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AramaeanSyriac back, once again. The evidence is pretty much the same as the times before, but to make it clear: This edit made by several of his sockpuppets (e.g. 1). And to me the biggest evidence this edit, probably only made by AS and his sockpuppets, 1, this time only a part of the text, but still. Other things that could be mentioned are the edits on Syria, which are the same as AramaeanSyriac's (and sockpuppets), but also the edit summaries are the same. Shmayo (talk) 19:06, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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 * "If an accusation on this page is "bad faith" (an editor making a fake case for an "attack" or to prevent their own editing being examined) then you may wish to say so briefly". User Shmayo is only trying to prevent his own editing to be examinated. Check this: . His reasons to run an ip check on me is very poor. Check my contribution history: The only edits i made since 24 January last year is only soccer-related. Because im a bit of an expert in that area, the soccerclub Syrianska FC, and also players related to the people and the club. I made One (!) edit to the article Syria and one to the article Aramaeans. When i have time i read articles related to the club. I also read the discussions and the history on articles. Just because me reverting to an older users version, does not make me to a sockpuppet. I reverted once, because i read both the articles and they had alot of errors. My edits got reverted, and as fast as it was reverted, i just left it behind me, because i dont want to start any edit- or revertwars. And i also dont want to get involved in articles that is outside my target-articles (Soccer-related articles). Since January i have contributed alot to the Syrianska FC article and players related to it, and i want to keep contributing to it, without being accused of being an sockpuppet. Also i have not been involved in any editwars, in any revertwars, i have not been accused for something, i have not broken any rules, and i have not been warned by an admin or anything. SYRIANIEN (talk) 13:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not ask for an IP-check, just like before that isn't necessary. You've been involved in disputes more than once. If AS and his sockpuppets are the only accounts that have made the same edit, of course it's big evidence. Yes, you have made changes to Syrianska FC, and so did AS too, how would that give you less connection to AS? Shmayo (talk) 14:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * "You've been involved in disputes more than once." - The only "dispute" i have been involved in since i became active in Wikipedia (About a year ago) is the dispute related to the Syrianska FC article. And that was not even countable, we had a big discussion in the article talkpage, we came up with an agremeent and everything was settled up. They even wrote to me about cooperating togheter. (Just check my discussion) So i dont know if that can be counted as a "dispute". And not to mention how many disputes you have been involved in, but thats another story... "Yes, you have made changes to Syrianska FC, and so did AS too, how would that give you less connection to AS?" - To see it from the other side, how would that give me more connection to AramSyriac? If we are to assume your thinking, then Everyone that has made changes to Syrianska FC the last time are connected to AramSyriac, including You (As you also have made changes to the article). I have kept my self away from editwars, from revertwars and from disputes. I have contributed alot to soccer-players related to Syrianska FC, but mainly to the Syrianska FC article. The article has been greatly improved. Just check how bad the article was before i came and improved it, and compare it with the article today. It has gained alot of ranking levels. I have not damaged Wikipedia in any way, i have only contributed. I feel also very insulted for being accused of being a SP to AS. All your accusations are incorrect. SYRIANIEN (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, define "dispute" how you want to, to me it's still a dispute. I never said it gives you more connection to AS, you were the one that brought Syrianska FC up, what I'm trying to say is that this is not the place to praise your edit, no matter how much you do edit; you can still be AS, and to me your edits and behaviour prove that. Shmayo (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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 * On behavioral grounds, I've blocked and tagged SYRIANIEN as a sock of Aramaean. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

30 December 2014

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I do believe that this account could belong to the User:AramaeanSyriac. It is his typical behavior; creating an account with a name that would make us think he is from Israel, or that he is speaking Hebrew, when the edits are nothing else but filled with his normal agenda. Especially the adding of Aram-Naharaim to articles was one of his typical edits. Not much, but I'm suspicious. Shmayo (talk) 21:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * After looking through the contributions, the user might be related to the master, but the evidence isn't really definitive. The master, socks, and this account are also for checkuser. I don't feel comfortable taking any action here and would recommend that you just keep an eye out for any future contributions that show a similar behavior. Given that the user hasn't edited in over 3 months, you might not see anything further. Mike V • Talk 21:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)