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14 June 2012

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Sasanack (first edit 14 Jan this year) is an editor of Vassula Ryden with a known conflict of interest: Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_57. I've noticed that the two editors, both SPAs of the same topic, perform the same bizarre copy pasting of text from one venue into another: i.e Arakator;, Sasanack:. This leaves me wondering if there is some closer connection to these accounts than is made out, i.e sock puppetry. IRWolfie- (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Very suspicious of you, Mr Wolfie. I would have thought our different styles should be obvious.  --Sasanack (talk) 16:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't have a smoking gun, I was just suspicious that two or three spas (User:Webwidget has re-appeared now) have come around all pushing for exactly the same thing, with misinterpretations of policies, for which one of the accounts has a COI (as determined through COIN). IRWolfie- (talk) 08:19, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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I'm sure lots of people who edit in the same topic use CTRL + V, and that's not really evidence of sockpuppetry. More solid evidence is needed before anything is to be done. WilliamH (talk) 14:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Closing as no action taken. Feel free to refile if there is new evidence. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  12:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

15 March 2014

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These are some long term SPAs editing at Vassula Ryden who appear to be long term associates or the same account holder. All of these accounts tailed off their activity in July 2012 (Arkatakor, the main account has 6 edits in between), and have just re-activated now. Sasanack has acknowledged the promotional role she/he takes:. For all 3 SPA accounts to return simultaneously after a nearly 2 year Hiatus indicates some sort of coordination, whether socks or off-wiki coordination. Second Quantization (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I am copying the same response to the two places this matter seems to have been placed. Please understand that I do not understand the complex 'machinery' of Wikipedia! This matter is being raised by 'Second Quantization' who, until a few weeks ago operated under the name 'IRWolfie'. Why he has chosen to change his name seems very strange to me to say the least! The recent attempted edits to the Vassula page are as a result of the appearance, in January, of an important review of a recent book by Vassula in a long established magazine, Inside the Vatican. The review was written by a Cardinal who played an important role in the Vatican's only dialogue with Vassula. A group of editors have consistently blocked reference to this dialogue on the WP page. The result of the relentless editing of the Vassula page by the same group of editors has resulted in a ridiculous collection of negative material with almost no positive material. Sasanack (talk) 11:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Adding one more. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Can the new account which has just magically appeared to agree with the SPA group be added? This account has only 4. previous edits, 2 of those were in support of an edit war by Arkatakor. Second Quantization (talk) 09:41, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I was not aware of this post until now. As Sasanack pointed out, my renewed participation in the Ryden page is the result of an important article from insidethevatican.com, the latter of which is a reliable source on the subject. It is in the light of this article that I have started participating in these discussions anew. I hope this helps clarify things. Arkatakor (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * - Last time there was perhaps not enough evidence, but the sudden return after the exact same hiatus is very suspicious. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 20:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * and are  related to each other.  appears ❌, though WP:MEAT cannot be discounted. Any action against these accounts would need to be made on a behavioural basis in relation to the level of disruption caused.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  18:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking carefully at all the evidence, there is enough difference in the mannerisms of Webwidget and Sasanack to give plausible deniability. I am tempted to think that the three are different people, or at least, there exists insufficient evidence for concluding that any pair of them are the same. That said, continued meatpuppetry may be grounds for a block in the future. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)