Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Arun1paladin/Archive

26 September 2011

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All four editors are primarily active in Sri Lanka related articles, which have undergone much edit warring during last month or so. It seems that while Arun1paladin has initiated a dispute, LostBeetles and Vankalaian have followed up and reverted the edits of the editors who have reverted Arun1paladin's edits. On 23 September, Arun1paladin removed cited info in LTTE article. On 23 and 24 September, Vankalaian has reverted the re-addition of same details by another editor. LostBeetles has done the same thing 5 times on 24/25 September. Arun1paladin has created a separate section in Sri Lanka article on 21 September. Vankalaian reverted the removal of the section 4 times on 21/22/23/24 September. LostBeetles did the same edit on that day. Arun1paladin engaged in reverting and adding the same content on 25 September, from 07:17 to 12:39. A non-autoconfirmed user, 115.246.156.72 started editing the section at 12:57. After he has finished editing, LostBeetles entered into action at 17:03 and kept reverting the attempts to remove the section which simply repeats info available in other sections. On another occassion, while Arun1paladin is engaged in a discussion in the Sri Lanka talkpage, user 115.246.185.221 entered into discussion. During the same same time period, LostBeetles entered into discussion as well. It can be observed that his commenting style is similar, if not identical to that of Arun1paladin. The list of similarities are not exhaustive and it is apparant that the suspected socks are used to divert warnings for disruptive editing. Astronomyinertia (talk) 12:34, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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I don't know if those 2 I.Ps are from India.If they are from Pune,Maharashtra,India then it's really me.I was using slow speed GPRS connection.I forgot to login.Regarding Vankalaian or somename.It's not me.I don't bother if you block that ID(Arun1paladin (talk) 04:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC))

I engaged in reverting of Astronomyinertia because he removed a section Civil war from Sri Lanka page and he added some civil war stuff in Post-indepence Sri Lanka.He didn't discuss about this before doing this.You can verify this in discussion page of that article.Inspite of continuous objections and lack of consensus he and [User:Cossde|Cossde]] were pushing their POV.You can notice that [User:Cossde|Cossde]] and Astronomyinertia had made similar comments in discussion page and they to kept reverting my edits.I didn't take it serious .So now let me too launch a complaint against these 2 persons /1 person.(Arun1paladin (talk) 04:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC))

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam&diff=452388570&oldid=452387895 .You can refer to this link to see that I had edited the info again.My point was that [Rajiv Gandhi]] was not PM of India when he was killed.So he there is no point in counting him as world leader.But agree that the sourced info counted it as world leader.Then I edited that 'Though Rajiv was not PM of India when he was killed FBI stated that LTTE was the only terrorist organisation to kill 2 world leaders.I just wanted to make the sentence neutral(Arun1paladin (talk) 05:03, 27 September 2011 (UTC))

I request you to use the check user to find if Vankalaian and LostBeetles are my sockpuppets.I don't lose anything if you block these accounts.But it's a damage to my name.(Arun1paladin (talk) 06:34, 27 September 2011 (UTC))

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Without reading the evidence listed above, I came to the same conclusions. Reading the evidence confirms my suspicions, so I'm going to block the two sockpuppet accounts. I'm not prepared, however, to say that the IPs are sockpuppets, so I am leaving this case open for another look. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 12:40, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please put this on hold. - Mailer Diablo 06:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The sockmaster owned up via email with explanation. Has been warned accordingly. A look into the two socks alone, to be Arun1paladin. - Mailer Diablo 15:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything else actionable here, so I'm going to close for now. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 23:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

15 October 2011

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2 socks belonged to the same sockmaster were blocked around 3 weeks ago. But a more investigative look at the sockmaster's contributions reveals more sockpuppetry cases that have spanned over a long period of time. I think above evidence is sufficient to establish a missing link between 3 separate SPIs. Astronomyinertia (talk) 17:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Arunantamil and Arun1paladin shares a part of the same name. Contribution history reveals that the account Arun1paladin made its first edit on 10 August 2007. Arunantamil made the first edit on 12 September 2007. Both users were highly active during that period of time, but were careful not to edit the same articles simultaneouly. Arunantamil was blocked on 5 October 2009, with 3 other confirmed sockpuppets named, and . Between 18 June 2009 and 8 September 2009‎, BlueLankan and Arunantamil engaged in a series of disruptive edits quite similar to what Arun1paladin and others are doing now.
 * 2) On 18 March 2010, an editor warned Arun1paladin for disruptive editing in Singapore article, and noted that his edits were identical to some edits by a user named . This user Akash was named a sockpuppet of on 5 November 2009‎. Vyaghradhataki was accused of using at least 31 accounts as sockpuppets and got banned on 24 May 2008. It should be noted that this account too was created on 17 August 2007 a week after the Arun1paladin account was created. 4 sockpuppet cases against Vyaghradhataki  identifies him as a "notorious POV-pusher and sockpuppetteer", which is exactly the same case with Arun1paladin.
 * 3) and  push forward the same POV as Arun1paladin in the Sri Lanka article. Hillcountries started a lengthy edit war with this edit on 14 June 2011. HudsonBreeze took over Hillcountries' edit war on 8 July 2011, and started posting the same content in the article. Arun1paladin joined the party on 9 August 2011. Since then, these 3 editors have carried out the edit war one after another.
 * 4) Arun1paladin usually "forgets" to log in before making edits in articles or reverting others' edits, despite being an experienced editor. These   are two such occassions.


 * Btw, IP details suggests that either this user travels around India or he shares the account with several people. For example, in this case, when he replaces the signature, IP details suggests that user is from Maharashtra, India. In this case, when he replaces the signature, IP address suggests that user is from Tamil Nadu, India. Astronomyinertia (talk) 17:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm adding two other potential socks that I noticed today. Muppanar has added new sections on Hillcountries' and another editor's talkpages on 14 October. After those edits got reverted, Arun1paladin has added the same section on those talkpages. Tamilan101 is promoting the same POV of Arun, but on sub articles of Sri Lanka. . Astronomyinertia (talk) 15:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

There are some other similar accounts which were created during August/September 2007. Some of these were blocked, and some are not. Please note that Arun1paladin also maintained another sock named, which was blocked as a result of the last SPI. It's also interesting to see Muppanar has removed the sockpuppet tags which were placed on Vankalaian and LostBeetles' userpages. Astronomyinertia (talk) 09:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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 * Please don't misrepresent information here. Reference to Sockpuppet investigations/Arun1paladin/Archive, CheckUser Mailer Diablo confirmed, "A look into the two socks alone, to be Arun1paladin". Why are you trying to relate always with Arun1paladin? If you couldn't debate him/her properly on geopolitics or history, please don't show your anger on this space.Muppanar (talk) 14:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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 * COMMENT - So... is any Admin going to block the sockmaster anytime soon? Or is he going to get away scot free? -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 12:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ATTENTION: Can we add User:Muppanar to the SPI list? A newbie appearing out of nowhere and straight into SPI, this is really interesting. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you are the one from no where and suggesting Admins to block the sockmaster with whom CheckUsers only identified a few IPs in connection and not any accounts so far. With your "The Barnstar of Diplomacy", you should have spent more time to study the Sockpuppet case and the current involvement of the accused on sensitive geopolitical discussions before you jump the gun, calling for a block. Cheers!Muppanar (talk) 01:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * @Muppanar: How strange? Even more strange is the fact that for a newbie like you with less than 10 edits (I counted 8 edit counts at 01:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)) can find your own way straight to this SPI which has no relations to you. Me on the other hand, has always been checking and tracing IPs on SPI and going through my own words (as you have insinuated that I'm advocating blocking you), letter-by-letter, whenever did I mentioned of blocking you? Unless you're admitting that you're Arun1paladin, now that is another matter altogether. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 01:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * @Dave1185:Any way, from my edits, a baby can understand, I am not a newbie to Wikipedia, you should correct your record straight on observation, but whether I am violating any Wikipedia policies is the issue. I am not jumping straight away here. I reverted Astronomyinertia's vandalism At User:Vankalaian and At User:LostBeetles, and thereafter I was following him. You are again missing the point - I am not telling, "You are advocating blocking me" but Arun1paladin. If I am voicing for Arun1paladin that doesn't mean I am of that person. Blocking Arun1paladin is not another matter altogether while he is involved in discussions on geopolitical issues(and there should be a continuity of involved people there) and not for his personal issues here. I think Arun1paladin is not familiar with certain Wikipedia policies, that is all his problem.Muppanar (talk) 02:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I added his details under the evidence section assuming that it will also be considered for the SPI as a suspected sockpuppet. I don't think it's just 1 user behind all these accounts. It could most probably be a well organized group of 2 or 3 individuals who are sparsely located, and shares the accounts among them. That's why they openly challenge CheckUser to find a connection between them. They have almost consistenly remained with Wikipedia since at least 2007, pushing a clear POV, although they say that they are not familiar with the features of wiki. Astronomyinertia (talk) 17:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If we challenge the CheckUsers, you too as well. Reference to Sockpuppet investigations/Cossde/Archive, there is a possibility you are a sockpuppet of "Cossde". By relating various accounts which are irrelevant to this sockpuppet case you are involving in "fishing" which is prohibited under Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy.Muppanar (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If WE challenge the CheckUsers, you too as well?? Have you people ever read Wikipedia's policy on meatpuppetry? There it says that "whether a party is one user with sockpuppets or several users with similar editing habits they may be treated as one user with sockpuppets." Please use this space to point out evidence in your support (if there are any), without restoring to personal attacks on other editors. Astronomyinertia (talk) 14:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Please read the following Wikipedia's policy also; "The term meatpuppet is derogatory and should be used with care, in keeping with Wikipedia's civility policy. Because of the processes above, it may be counterproductive to directly accuse someone of being a "meatpuppet", and doing so will often only inflame the dispute."Muppanar (talk) 01:21, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * There's the possibility of collusion going on here, but I'm not willing to go solely based on behavior. As such I'm endorsing to see what the connection is between the three nonstale accounts, i.e. the master, Hillcountries and HudsonBreeze. There won't be a comment on the IPs, but I'll point out that the 115.246 IPs and the 117 IP geolocate to very different parts of India. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 18:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The named accounts are to be operated by Arun1paladin, primarily based on geolocation. Behavioural evidence will have to be relied upon when determining a connection. As an aside,  has been abusing anonymous accounts at one article in particular, so .  AGK  [&bull; ] 20:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I would also like to add a note about the connections the accounts have to each other (not necessarily to anyone else). It seems to me there is some technical connection (/ bordering on given the edits) between HudsonBreeze, Hillcountries, and Muppanar. Tamilan101 is ❌ to those three accounts. I, of course, welcome review from other checkusers.  TN X Man  23:00, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at the contributions for Arun1paladin, Hillcountries, and HudsonBreeze, and while it was mentioned above that CU came up negative for straight socks, IMHO it's highly probable that these three are colluding/meatpuppeting, while Muppenar is a loudly quacking puppet. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've blocked Muppanar per WP:DUCK. As to Hillcountries and HudsonBreeze, I'm not fully sold on their connections to the master. With all of this uncertainty floating around, I think we should close the current case and see what happens. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:31, 21 October 2011 (UTC)