Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atlantaknights1996/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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(All four user are hounding a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clarendon Road Presents: A Plastic Free Record and present almost the same argument. Biggles325 even closed the AfD before any sort of consensus was reached ; JozefM0000000003 signed under the guise of Thearticlehelper101 ; and 's and 's  userpages are almost the same, both calling themselves and expert — or implying something along those lines — in AfD discussions. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 01:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC); edited 03:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC).


 * can a clerk move this page to  please? I didn't know how to request checkuser properly using twinkle. And, I am not sure whether it is in my remit to move this page as a non-clerk, non-checkuser. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 01:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC); edited 03:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC).
 * ✅ by Hhkohh (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * trust me, I know how to use normal, run-of-the-mill diff links; I just tried to Mr. Fancy Pants, didn’t turn out to be great, not bad either, though. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 03:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . CU not required. based on history of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clarendon Road Presents: A Plastic Free Record, interaction analyzer (considering the edit counts of the users in question), the styles of writing/discussion from a random sampling, and other cues such as edit summary usage. There's a small chance it could be meat but I don't think it's important enough of a distinction (given the level of AfD socking here) to warrant different treatment or a CU. Please indef all four accounts. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 03:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, and quick bit of advice for filer – you might find Simple diff and link guide helpful. Thanks, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 03:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not usual, for a first sockpuppetry offence, to indef the socks but to give the master a limited block? Or is that only in cases wherein the socking is recent? I can certainly see a case for four indefs here, but I prefer to err on the side of caution when blocks are involved. Vanamonde (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Given the extended vote fraud and old age of the socks (this wasn't just a casual one-off thing), I felt an indefinite block for the master would be appropriate. It's always up to the administrator, though. Thanks!  Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 21:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * fix ping Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 21:28, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have blocked all four accounts: I will leave the tagging to you if that's alright. Vanamonde (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. Closing. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 15:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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The connection between Atlantaknights1996 and Atlantaknights95 is obvious – apart from the names, Atlantaknights1996 very first edit was an attempt to create an article for Raymond DeMarco, and the four edits by Atlantaknights95 were all related to the same subject ,. Attempts were also made by the editor Arthur200013 to create an article for DeMarco under his stage name of Rayge DeMarco, describing DeMarco as "his friend", which were twice deleted at AfD (Articles for deletion/Rayge DeMarco (2nd nomination)). This was to promote DeMarco's contribution to a charity album which was also deleted at AfD and which led to the original sockpuppet investigation of this editor – see the AfD discussion for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clarendon Road Presents: A Plastic Free Record. In that discussion, the sock stated that they had worked on articles by Jack Johnson, Bahamas, Nikki Yanofsky and Wyclef Jean, a statement which can be corroborated in their edit histories. A check of Bigpickleman9999912's Wikipedia contributions shows that he has also been heavily involved in edits to all four of these artists, , , – Arthur200013 also worked on Nikki Yanofsky and Wyclef Jean articles. Atlantaknights1996 has also recently started editing Jack Johnson articles, and they and Bigpickleman9999912 also share a preference for editing another band, the Record Company , (this article was also heavily edited by two of the previous socks of this editor , ), and also for a completely unrelated subject to music, the Brazilian tennis player Beatriz Haddad Maia ,. If not actually a single sockpuppet, there appears to be a meat farm all editing the same subjects. Richard3120 (talk) 13:16, 9 December 2021 (UTC) Richard3120 (talk) 13:16, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * It appears that Atlantaknights1996 is the oldest account, as it was created in March 2015, so wouldn't it make sense to move it to Atlantaknights1996's case? --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * OK, the last two accounts are too old, of course, for CU; behavioral data will decide (if it really matters whether we block them or not). But AtlantaKnights1996 is a perfect match with BigPickles and I'll block them both. I cannot establish whether they are identical with Biggles--not via CU, and I can't really do a behavioral comparison right now. Drmies (talk) 16:05, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Based on this log entry there's also:
 * The other accounts are sufficiently stale -- not having editing for between 3 (almost 4) and 6 (almost 7) years -- that I think we can close this off. The SandDoctor  Talk 17:46, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the missing question is whether we're going to call Atlantaknights1996 a Biggles325 sock, in which case we should rename the case. I looked at this a bit earlier today and didn't come to any conclusion either way. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Looking at the editor interaction chart and the history of articles like Fragments (song), All The Light Above It Too, and Nikki Yanofsky, I believe these accounts are related to the older ones and have moved this case accordingly.  Spicy (talk) 01:05, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (Re)tagged accounts, archiving. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (Re)tagged accounts, archiving. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)