Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka/Archive

Report date December 24 2009, 03:34 (UTC)

 * Requests for checkuser/Case/Eichikiyama
 * Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Pabopa

Suspected sockpuppets
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 * suspected as the currently active block-evading account
 * range-blocked for 3 months by User:Nishkid64
 * ditto along with User:Thatcher's rangeblock
 * ditto
 * ditto
 * , sometimes using this IP
 * , ocn ISP
 * , sometimes using this IP
 * , ocn ISP

Evidence submitted by Caspian blue

 * As soon as the user registered his "new account" named on Feb. 22, 2009, I knew he is a reincarnation of the persistent sockpuppeter, Azukimonaka who had disrupted Korea or Japan related articles after his another set of socks around  were blocked on January, 2009. The user mainly use ODN, and OCN ISPs based in Tokyo, Japan, but also uses various ISPs (home.jp. so-net.jp) and internet cafes to avoid scrutiny. The troll, an active member of 2channel's Korean bashing forum also operated his personal blog purely dedicated to harass me and to wikistalk my edit (the site name is my previous user name before WP:RENAME. That can be confirmed via his own introduction of his email address to his talk page. which matches the blog owner's email address). If you don't see the cache, just tell me, I have a capture image of the blog. By exposing his email address, he recruited his possible meatpuppeters to send him email. Also when he harassed me with the blog, I contacted the site manger and got replies. His massively multiplayer online role-playing game has been over two years, so I felt fatigue. That is why I did not report him even though his interest, edit summary, and writing style are too conspicuously all identical.


 * His typical edit summaries include "the deleted edit (or concealment) is returned" (Azukimonaka vs 青鬼よし), "don't get too excited", "However, the edit is not being written (at all)"(Azukimonaka vs 青鬼よし), "See TalkPage" (he combined the "talk page" into one with the peculiar capital letter usage) etc. I also think he is surely operate another set of socks for his interest in manga (Japanese cartoon) and tokusatsu (Japanese films about action heroes in rubber costume) and Japanese cuisine. Unlike the previous other socks, 青鬼よし only focuses on controversial history of ancient periods since I know what manga articles he would appear. Their interests especially focus on Kofun period, Nara period, Baekje, Balhae and the late 19th and early 20th century of Korea and Japan. I warned him that if his disruption and harassment against me are unbearable, I would not condone his disruption, This is the time to kick the persistent disruptive sock out. Enough is enough.


 * One of the sockpuppeter's typical problems is that he can not properly read either English source, nor Chinese sources and habitually falsifies sources to make bogus allegations.
 * For example, he inserted the content that Japanese animation, Grave of the Fireflies was banned in South Korea for the WW2 content. to List of banned films. Of course, that is a outright falsehood and he could not even properly read Japanese source that the film's screening was "canceled" not "prohibited" unlike he insistence. One of Azukimonaka socks named disrupted the article of Grave of the Fireflies with the same material. (see the edit summaries, all are same pattern that can be found in 青鬼よし's insistence). I will add more "plentiful evidence" later.--Caspian blue 03:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comparison between edits by the sockpuppeters
 * Azukimonaka's misuse of primary sources written in Chinese with incorrect or falsified translation at the same time his massive blanking of properly referenced "academic and secondary sources"
 * Talk:Japan–Korea_disputes
 * Talk:History_of_Japan/Archive_3
 * Talk:Japanese_art/Archive_2
 * Kofun periodAzukimonaka vs 青鬼よし
 * Balhae related; at Go of Balhae – Azukimonaka and his socks vs 青鬼よし to exclude "Korean history" from all the related articles; Azukimonaka vs 青鬼よし
 * Some chronicle
 * If you compare talk page discussions, you will notice that both Azukimonaka et al and 青鬼よし fond of using horizontal lines in the middle of discussions as well.
 * I'm also considering to add his obvious meatpuppeter to the list given that some odd overlaps with the previous socks of Azukimonaka. Due to my limited time these days, I only added only very partial evidences, so if the above is not enough, just tell me. Thanks.--Caspian blue 06:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Azukimonaka and "his offspring" have tried to discredit Debito Arudou's source in regard to contents on permanent Korean residents in Japan or famous nationalized Japanese of Korean decent especially Masayoshi Son (founder of Softbank), Rikidōzan, Mas Oyama. At Japan–Korea disputes
 * 2008-12-28T04:40:52 Eichikiyama (talk | contribs) (30,585 bytes) (The appended source is "http://www.debito.org/tokaispeech062507.doc". Please open the source.)
 * 2009-09-25T14:20:29 青鬼よし (talk | contribs) (37,485 bytes) (→Zainichi Koreans: "http://www.debito.org/tokaispeech062507.doc" This document is a complaint to the foreigner discrimination of the hot spring in Otaru. Masayoshi are not related.)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Hello. I am 青鬼よし.
 * I am often using the Japanese-English translation application (Exite). Therefore, I think that my English conversation is mechanical.
 * I am Japanese. And, I am majoring in the history of Japan. However, I am not interested in the history of Korea at all. I have not edited the history of Korea.
 * About Balhae, Is the history of Balhae a history of Korea or Is the history of Balhae a history of China? This problem is controverted between Korea and China. I opposed Korean user's putting only a "Korean history" on Balhae.
 * About Japan–Korea_disputes, I asked him for the discussion in the Talkpage. However, he keeps disregarding me. And, he was requesting the administrator to banish me. I was surprised at this surprise attack.
 * About Kofun Period of the Japanese history, Caspian blue and Objectiveye renewed the quotation of the source of information. I asked about the renewal of this source of information. However, he refused an answer. And, he was requesting the administrator to banish me.


 * Caspian blue was said on the discussion page of the Kofun Period (history of Japan). "Objectiveye is a very trustworthy person."　However, his edit history is very little. I do not understand the reason why Caspian blue trusts him. Objectiveye and Caspian blue the same persons?　I do not know the method of requesting their investigations...

I am on vacation in the hot spring in Gunma Prefecture until January 4. Perhaps, I do not access the Internet at the hotel. I was not able to do an enough rebuttal about this surprise attack.

PS.I am a woman. I am majoring in the historical science at the university in Tokyo. And, to find employment, I think that I part from Wikipedia slowly. Recently, I am participating in Wikipedia only once a week... --青鬼よし (talk) 11:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So you're lying again and making things up. Please explain where and when I said "Objectiveyes is a very trustworthy person" at Talk:Kofun_period as you insist. Your multiple lies can be seen Talk:Korea under Japanese rule, Talk:Japan-Korea disputes and many others. I warned you not to disrupt Wikipedia last September since I've known you're the same person who operated the stalking site to harass me and who you were per your identical editing pattern and writing style. According to WP:BAN, no banned users are allowed to edit Wikipedia. Please explain about your identical email address to the stalker's and the identical edit summaries. Moreover, there is only one person who appeared to delete the categories to Balhae articles, exactly same editing patterns and same edit summaries. I also request this account's underlying IPs to be checked as well. Moreover, regarding your baseless accusation of sockpuppetry, this is also same to Azukimonaka; whenever his offspring has been accused of being sockpuppeter and the banned user, he has tried to make things up to avoid the sockpuppeter tag. Since you're not admitting your block-evading nor explaining about your stalking blog, I will add more "evidences" for your sake.--Caspian blue 13:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

CheckUser requests
Requested by Caspian blue 03:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

– All the involved registered accounts are, which only leaves IPs remaining. That doesn't leave much for a CU to look at. –MuZemike 07:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
I had to take into consideration the potential damages caused as well as the frequency of the IP ranges' edits (when I looked at all the contributions in those CIDR ranges). I have done the following:


 * 211.3.112.0/20 and 43.244.133.167 have not edited in over a year. Nothing would be gained from blocking these.
 * 211.131.0.0/16 very likely has some good-faith contributions from users outside these socks (i.e. many of the articles fit outside the MO of the blocked socks).
 * 61.209.128.0/18 has been blocked 2 weeks. (There has been some good-faith contribs from uninvolved users, so I am reluctant from making the rangeblock any more than that for now.)
 * 219.66.40.0/21 and 222.149.75.88 have been blocked for 1 month each. (Again, keeping them short for the same reason I just mentioned above.)

I don't think to much else here can be done without causing too much collateral damage as far as anon editing is concerned. –MuZemike 21:21, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) 2009-12-28T21:18:14 MuZemike blocked 61.209.128.0/18 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 2 weeks ‎ (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)
 * 2) 2009-12-28T21:14:23 MuZemike blocked 222.149.75.88 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 month ‎ (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)
 * 3) 2009-12-28T21:14:02 MuZemike blocked 219.66.40.0/21 (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 1 month ‎ (Block evasion: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka)


 * The main active account, is not blocked yet unlike the underlying ips. Please clarify this--Caspian blue 21:34, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I did not see that. I will have to take a look into that. –MuZemike 21:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Blocked. Article range and edit summaries too closely match the previously blocked socks. –MuZemike 17:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. On the other hand, given that Azukimonaka seems liked 's sock (Requests for checkuser/Case/Kamosuke) and Suspected_sock_puppets/Azukimonaka), his block-evading MMORPG seems endless. His gaming the system has lasted over 4 years (!). I'm sure he would operate another set of socks and appear again, so if Checkuder see his account, that would be great to reduce harm done by him. --Caspian blue 21:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note see the talk page, Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka for further information regarding chronicle of Azukimonka's sockpuppetry and frequently appeared articles.--Caspian blue 23:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Guys, seriously. Compare my own edit log with that of the IP address. I don't even see the edits that you think Azukimonaka has made in the IP address's log. And now that I think about it, that IP address has been used by my company for months now (that's why I can see edits *I* have made, while at the office and not logged in, in the log of the IP address.)

It seems like someone has been a bit ambitious in their search for "suspected sockpuppets". I read through this page, and it looks like just because I've been editing Debito's page, then I must fall into the "OMG HATE GAIJIN" category that azukimonaka is in.

Do you want me to post a photo of me running a traceroute from the work computer or something? Do you want me to write a 500 word essay in perfect English? What am I supposed to do, seriously? Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 13:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Comment I added the IP in the last minute because while I gathered possible socks of his, I noticed the IP's edits at Etiquette in Japan and Ethnic issues in Japan and the strong interests in anything negative images of Japanese society and Debito Arudou just like Azukimonaka (Azukimonaka deleted his sites many times from other articles). Previous Checkusers who looked into Azukimonaka's socks said that Azukimonaka has used various ISPs such as ODN (his main ISP), OCN and many others (from internet cafes, 3rd place beside his home) to avoid scrutiny and most of them are dynamic except some few static IPs (though checkusers rangeblocked a same IP range twice after scrutiny). Thatcher said "behavioral evidences" would be more effective to detect his socks since Azukimonaka knows how to game the system for years with socking. However, based on the English of the "currently blocked anon", I'm convinced that User:Simon-in-sagamihara is not Azukimonaka. Azukimonaka's broken English is so severe that I can easily detect his typical grammatical errors and writing style whenever he creates socks. Though, he sometimes used "very advanced" English words or slang that he does not seem to even know the meaning exactly. (he said he was using a translation tool) So I think only the anon's IP's block can be lifted while the other rangeblocked IPs were correctly carried out. I think Azukimonaka definitely has more socks (see the above report), so Checkuser on his account could be a good idea.--Caspian blue 04:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

CheckUser requests
Requested by Jayron  32  03:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

this edit about says it all. I am unfamiliar with the background of this case, but this is screaming at me as suspicious. Could a checkuser and/or SPI regular confirm if this is him or not? -- Jayron  32  03:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
I blocked the IP about a week ago as an IP sock of User:Azukimonaka, as the types of articles edited closely enough matched the MO by Azukimonaka and other socks. User:Caspian blue compiled a timeline of the socking (going back to 2006) at Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Azukimonaka. I would say it's likely, just on behavioral evidence alone, that User:Simon-in-sagamihara is Azukimonaka; if a CU wants to make a check, that may not be a bad idea. –MuZemike 04:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Given the apparent difficulty of tracking this Azukimonaka character via CU, and the obvious connection between the IP and the Simon account, a checkuser isn't really going to help much in this case. I'm inclined to go with Caspian blue's sense on this, that the difference in language ability means Simon is not Azukimonaka. A ping to Thatcher might be of use, if he remembers dealing with this particular case or still has his notes. Nathan  T 02:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Conclusions
Closing per Nathan and Caspian blue. No action taken. –MuZemike 01:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
As did Azukimonaka and their various sockpuppets, CHR52 tendentiously edits various pages to remove Korean references and play up Japanese influence, see and, as does 789XYG. 789XYG should probably be blocked outright for edits like this one in any case (stating that Koreans are unsanitary). Azukimonaka has made similar edits to Bungeo-ppang and uses similarly stilted syntax. . Now, it is possible that the writing and opinions may be coincidental as they all seem to be Japanese speakers with a certain sentiment towards Koreans, but at least CHR52 and 789XYG are clearly the same user. Both randomly accuse their opponents of being racists and they have left nearly identical talkpage messages on at least two talkpages.  Mr.choppers &#124;  ✎  02:45, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I'm not convinced this is Azukimonaka and given the age I'm not really sure it matters. The connection between CHR52 and 789XYG is stronger though. for confirmation. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Seemed ducky, but I had a look in case there are any sleepers. The two are, no obvious others seen. --Blablubbs (talk) 16:52, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)