Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BCuzwhynot/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

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 * Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

This user came to my attention while I was patrolling new pages, more specifically the page Rod Ponton, which has already been nominated for deletion (see BCuzwhynot's comments on the AfD as well). The Rod Ponton page was created by the IP that this investigation is about as a draft in February 2021 and was approved on May 23, 2021 by BCuzwhynot. The IP editor was blocked in March 2021 for vandalism. BCuzwhynot is blocked from Commons.

These 2 editors have very similar patterns, including both of them pleading on their talk pages (here with the IP editor and here with the account), and both of them using the phrase "I plead innocent" (seen at the talk page of the IP editor and the AfD for the Rod Ponton article). Additionally, both users edit similar articles. Using the Editor interaction utility linked at this page by default, besides the Rod Ponton article, they both seem to also frequently edit Why Don't You Do Right? (an edit by the IP and an edit by the account) and Wild World (song) (an edit by the IP and an edit by the account). Wizzito (talk) 03:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Duck-blocked and subsequently confirmed. Favonian (talk) 05:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Moved to the named account, archiving. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 10:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Pro forma, per checkuser. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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, I heard that a CheckUser linked BCuzwhynot to Brettandelle. Not sure which one, though. wizzito &#124; say hello!  01:05, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The tag on BCuzwhynot was placed by a checkuser, but is only marked as 'proven' and not 'confirmed'. I can see how that could happen, as there's a lot of subject overlap. Technically however, they seem completely unrelated. -- zzuuzz (talk) 09:56, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Technical and behavioural evidence suggest this is highly likely to be (consider this confirmed). There's currently a tag on BCuzwhynot's user page saying this is, but I think that's very unlikely. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I believe that Popculturelover2021 is a sock of the blocked user BCuzwhynot.

My evidence for this is as follows:

1. Similar mannerisms/language; Popculturelover2021 and SomeWhatLife (who is a confirmed sock of BCuzwhynot) both talk about going on hiatus. See Popculturelover2021's talkpage, which states "i'm officially back, the hiatus was to last longer, but i have decided to cancel it, i will only edit a few pages a day, in order to focus on my personal life, so yeah, i will reply to certain messages when i have time, thanks" and SomeWhatLife's userpage, which states "I had two failed attempts to go on hiatus in mid-July (only three weeks after i joined) and earlier this month, but i kept seeing some articles that needed to be improved so i went ahead and fixed them. After i made more edits, i decided to cancel both of the hiatuses". They both sometimes use lowercase i's in their text as well; you can see this in the previous example.

2. Similar editing interests; for example, SomeWhatLife and Popculturelover both have an interest in adding images. You can see various fair use image warnings on both Popculturelover's and SomeWhatLife's talk pages; the only difference is that Popculturelover2021 mainly focuses on radio station logos, while SomeWhatLife uploaded mostly album covers and TV show logos. The overlap between BCuzwhynot, SomeWhatLife, and Popculturelover2021 is also quite strong; here are some pages that all 3 accounts have edited (I also linked an example edit by each of them to show the overlap):


 * America's Funniest Home Videos (one edit by BCuzwhynot, one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover)


 * Kath Soucie (one edit by BCuzwhynot, one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover; note that both SomeWhatLife and Popculturelover were trying to add a birthdate sourced to IMDb.)


 * Fly Like an Eagle (song) (one edit by BCuzwhynot, one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover)


 * Wild World (song) (one edit by BCuzwhynot, one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover; note that all 3 edits involve the addition of images.)

And here are pages that both SomeWhatLife and Popculturelover have heavily edited:
 * CBS This Morning (one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover; note that both edits involve the addition of images.)
 * That Vegan Teacher (one edit by SomeWhatLife, one edit by Popculturelover)

You can see various other edit overlaps using the Editor Interaction Analyser.

3. A bit of a smaller one, but both Popculturelover2021 and the confirmed socks GameShowLover2021 and LolXD2021 have the year 2021 in their names. "Lover" is shared with both Popculturelover2021 and GameShowLover2021.

I understand that the 6 months to confirm socking through CU has likely expired (and I'm embarrassed that I didn't catch this sooner), but I hope that this behavioral evidence is more than enough to make a confirmation. A reason why I am asking for CU despite this is because this user does a lot of good and bad-hand socking; you can see an example of this with the confirmed sock and vandalism-only account GodOfWikis. (The CU on October 21, 2021 revealed various vandalism-only accounts operated by the sockmaster, including GodOfWikis.) I highly suggest IP blocks if a CU/admin feels that it is needed, as despite the long block of the associated IP, this user keeps socking and making accounts. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  05:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks, guys. I'll keep an eye on LiquifiedWater to see if anything else might come from that account. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  04:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * It's definitely them. Also, might be involved too, but CU data isn't 100%. --  Amanda (she/her)  08:25, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and tagging Popculturelover2021 based on Amanda's results. LiquifiedWater doesn't have enough edits to tell anything from their behavior, nor is it worth worrying about. -- RoySmith (talk) 11:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The same old, same old. Editor overlaps include as follows:


 * Ford's Chapel United Methodist Church - Iamoutofusernameideas edit, Popculturelover2021 edit (both adding images of the same Alabama church. On Commons, the metadata shows that both pictures were taken with a Samsung phone.)


 * KNX-FM - Iamoutofusernameideas edit, Popculturelover2021 edit, BCuzwhynot edit (all edits involve images/logos; images are an interest of this user)


 * Michael Rosen - Iamoutofusernameideas edit, Popculturelover2021 edit


 * You're My Favorite Waste of Time - Iamoutofusernameideas edit, Popculturelover2021 edit, SomeWhatLife edit

I am once again asking for a CU to see if a CU IP block can be done and/or if there are any other accounts, due to my rationale in the last investigation. (basically: making accounts despite the block of a likely IP and good and bad-hand socking) wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  22:43, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Request for IP blocks is taken into consideration. Will not be able to detail if any blocks were made as this could lead to privacy policy breakage. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Tagged accounts, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The same exact thing. A focus on images and similar overlap, including:


 * Wild Night (Popculturelover2021, Helloiamauser)


 * Good Morning America (Popculturelover2021, Helloiamauser)


 * Bob Barker (Popculturelover2021, Helloiamauser)


 * iCivics (BCuzwhynot, Popculturelover2021, Helloiamauser)

Looks like the CU blocks that may have been made last time didn't prevent them from socking again, so would appreciate a CU looking into it. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  03:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * Editing behaviour is very similar; editing from a range that shows up in the CU logs for previous socks. Blocking, tagging as proven; also blocking, and was created on an IP address that Helloiamauser had used a couple of hours earlier - I'm not certain they're the same person, but they're clearly NOTHERE. Closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  13:25, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Signed up shortly after Helloiamauser's block. Same interests. Relevant diffs:. MarioGom (talk) 21:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅, to each other and to . Blocked, tagged, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  16:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The same exact thing. Again.

Overlap with the last 2 socks (as per usual):


 * The Randy Newman Songbook Vol. 2 (Helloiamauser, Pickmyusernameidc2022, Justanotheruser23)


 * Wesley Britt (Helloiamauser, Pickmyusernameidc2022, Justanotheruser23)


 * University Challenge (New Zealand game show) (Helloiamauser, Pickmyusernameidc2022, Justanotheruser23)


 * Jeremy Paxman (Helloiamauser, Pickmyusernameidc2022, Justanotheruser23)

Would prefer a CU block to be done here, as the creation of accounts is persistent wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  03:49, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * - signed up one week Pickmyusernameidc2022's block, topic overlap as noted in the report, relevant diffs:, . MarioGom (talk) 22:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ to . Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The same thing. Note the recent style of usernames relating to "editor" or "user"

Diffs/comparisons to last 2 socks:


 * University Challenge (New Zealand game show): Youraverageeditor123, Pickmyusername2022, Helloiamauser


 * Jeremy Paxman: Youraverageeditor123, Pickmyusername2022, Helloiamauser


 * University Challenge: Youraverageeditor123, Justanotheruser23, Pickmyusername2022, Helloiamauser

Again requesting a CU block and maybe a sleeper check to prevent consistent account creation wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  20:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The same thing. Again. I delayed reporting this because this sock goes dormant at times and I did not wish to report an inactive account.

Editor overlap:
 * University Challenge (Yourfavoritewhovian, Youraverageeditor123, Justanotheruser23)
 * Whispering Your Name (Yourfavoritewhovian, Youraverageeditor123)
 * Cat Stevens (Yourfavoritewhovian, Youraverageeditor123)
 * I Need a Lover (Yourfavoritewhovian, Youraverageeditor123)

There is an IP range (not linking it here) that is likely his that is blocked 3 years, but the block is set as "anon. only," so he can still create an account elsewhere and log into it on said range. I would like that range and any other IPs found during CheckUser to be hard blocked. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  03:03, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅ via log data.  firefly  ( t · c ) 16:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC)