Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bahironga/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * 1) Judeo israel is already blocked.
 * 2) Both editors ("Bahironga" and "Thomas162354") started a section in the Morocco Article to seek inclusion of a list "empires" that they describe as Moroccan.(diff1, diff2) Notice how similar their writing style is.
 * 3) Both are interested in adding a checkered Almohad flag to the Almohad Caliphate article.(diff1, diff2)
 * 4) Both insist on describing the Almohad Caliphate as "Morocco".(diff1, diff2)
 * 5) While "Bahironga" started casting aspersions from the get go, "Thomas162354" decided to end a discussion after a couple of exchanges on the article's talk page (concerning the third point) and went staright to ANI. This is not something I would expect from someone who just joinded the project.
 * 6) There is also a possibility that Almohadcalifat could be related to them (see diff).

I know you're busy and I wouldn't bother you in normal circumstances, but given the ANI case, I would really appreciate it if you could look into this while it's still open. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 22:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for your speedy response. I have added Judeo_israel (another blocked sock) to the list (just to keep a record). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 10:37, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I've added user Hotjewish to the list. I see that Blablubbs has already acted on the other accounts, but I figured it wasn't too late to add a new one since the case is still open. Let me know if I should proceed a different way. This new account has been posting poorly-written messages to several users (e.g. ), urging them to make edits to the Morocco article and complaining about M.Bitton. This seems to refer to this reverted edit by Bahironga. It also alludes to being blocked for sockpuppetry. A look at Bahironga's edit summaries shows similar personal attacks against M.Bitton, so the behavior lines up. R Prazeres (talk) 20:51, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Quite despite proxy use; blocking on that basis, but I'll leave the status as is since I don't have the time and energy for a deep dive right now.  --Blablubbs (talk) 01:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I took a look. I'd call them  so tagging as suspected and closing.  I saw one other possible account, but the behavior doesn't match, so no action taken there. RoySmith (talk) 17:24, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

Just like the sockmaster, this "new editor" has been pushing a pro-Morocco POV with regard to Western Sahara.
 * This request is particularly telling as it's very similar to this one, which was made by an IP that is associated with the sockmaster (they used it to sock while blocked and as a consequence, their block was extended. Please see their talk page where it and other IPs from the same geolocation are mentioned).
 * You'll also notice that both of them use punctuation in the section headings (Mosti95 and Vogelman29).
 * Both of them have edited the German wikipedia (Mosti95 and Vogelman29), which also happens to be the geolocation of the mentioned IPs.
 * Both make false claims while removing sourced content (Mosti95 and Vogelman29).
 * Their anti-Algeria and anti-Polisario stance (which goes hand in hand with the pro-Morocco POV one) is clearly evidenced by every single edit of theirs. M.Bitton (talk) 02:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC) M.Bitton (talk) 02:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

following zzuuzz's comment below, I'm adding the following IPs which have been linked to Mosti95 (see their talk page): 2A02:3037:408:5435:0:0:0:0/64 and 2A02:3037:408:58B1::/64. M.Bitton (talk) 23:22, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
I was pointed here by this diff, where Vogelman29 was confirmed to be. I don't have any insight into older accounts, which there may be, and checkuser is not helpful here with a stale account. The timing is suspicious though. Vogelman29 is blocked; No further action from me. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * - as WP:NOTHERE. Based on the evidence sockpuppetry seems very likely, but I'm not sure who the master is. Marking this for clerk attention because it may need to be tagged and merged with Sockpuppet investigations/Bahironga. The Wordsmith Talk to me 23:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Merged case. Mosti95 is no longer stale. With the small amount of data I have, I can say that they're to Vogelman29. Tagged as suspected based on behaviour. Spicy (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)