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19 May 2015

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Similar edits and behavior on Saka article. Bamsi2929 started disruption on various articles. After several revert and warnings by other editors, he stopped and his last edit was on Saka diff1. On 19 May 2015 a new registered account (Sturanos) returned to Saka article, and did similar edits diff2, diff3, diff4. Other possible and related accounts are User:Madyas and User:Mehmeett21. They have no edits on Saka article, but total behavior and their edit styles are similar to those new accounts (Bamsi2929 and Sturanos). For example, Madyas started similar claims on Scythians article (an article related to Saka) diff5, diff6, diff7. Madyas is indef-blocked, and Mehmeett21 is inactive since 22 March 2015. The primary users on this case are Bamsi2929 and Sturanos, but it's possible that Mehmeett21 and Madyas are related (created and operated from same source/IP/computer), and those 4 users are same person. So I request a checkuser. Note: The Saka article is under persistent sock puppetry and disruptive changes since Nov 2014 (various IPs and blocked users). This is another reason why I submitted this SPI case. Zyma (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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If sockpuppetry is indeed going on here, Mehmeett21 is the oldest account and should be listed as the sockmaster. Mehmeett21 has heavy user interaction with Madyas. See these diffs  Sturanos makes identical edits to User without username and  (who claims to be ). Their edit is a copy of the sources from the Saka article at Turkish Wikipedia. These sources were again originally added by Tirgil34, a notorious sockmaster also at the English Wikipedia. These cases might be connected.

and also has similar habits of unsourced insertions of "Turkic" at various articles.--Krakkos (talk) 12:36, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I think Mehmeett21 needs an individual SPI case, because his case is complicated. And Sturanos is just another single-purpose disruptive account. Such accounts usually start disruptive changes and edit warring on targeted articles, and then after some edits (usually minimum edits to pass auto-confirmed requirements), they will turn into sleeper account. --Zyma (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I would say the behavioural evidence in favour of Sturanos and Madyas belonging to the same person is very strong. They are both single-purpose accounts for adding unsourced claims of "Turkic" to the intro and infobox, and then bombing the see also section with "Turkic" lists, "Turkic" templates and the category section with "Turkic" categories. There are dozens more of these edits by Madyas. Probably, both of these accounts belong to sockmaster EMr KnG. Compare the previous diffs with earlier edits by Emr KnG sock Erim Turukku. Krakkos (talk) 01:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

There was earlier a sockpuppetry case against Bamsi2929 at the French Wikipedia. Başbugkhan, Turk-Kurt29 and Ergenekon52200 are socks blocked in that case that are registered at the English Wikipedia. Krakkos (talk) 18:17, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other (the latter two are ✅) and ❌ to other accounts:
 * The following accounts are between and  and ❌ to other accounts:
 * is ❌ to any account.
 * There is no apparent relationship with any of the accounts and or.
 * Of the confirmed accounts, Bamsi2929 is still the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocking Bamsi, Uli, and Turuk indefinitely for socking. Leaving the other accounts untouched due to insufficient behavioral and technical evidence to pursue any action. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:17, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * is ❌ to any account.
 * There is no apparent relationship with any of the accounts and or.
 * Of the confirmed accounts, Bamsi2929 is still the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocking Bamsi, Uli, and Turuk indefinitely for socking. Leaving the other accounts untouched due to insufficient behavioral and technical evidence to pursue any action. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:17, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocking Bamsi, Uli, and Turuk indefinitely for socking. Leaving the other accounts untouched due to insufficient behavioral and technical evidence to pursue any action. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:17, 4 June 2015 (UTC)