Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Banana Republic/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
The Isabela ciao account was created on 15 December but this is clearly not a new user; their 4th edit was about templates. Within several days, they returned to articles edited by Banana Republic (and blocked sock A girl in Latvia), like Hunter Biden and George Santos. The intersect contribs tool shows mutual edits on a number of American politics articles, but also random articles like Kartlis Deda, Saturday Night Live (season 27), and 19 Kids and Counting. It was at 19 Kids and Counting where I saw that Isabela ciao reinstated content that was originally added by Banana Republic—and later whittled down and then removed by me due to BLP concerns. Woodroar (talk) 16:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * - Also see this edit summary (Define "it"), this and this . Endorsing CU to compare to any logs, as well as a check for sleepers, since there's a few other accounts that might be the same user. MarioGom (talk) 12:09, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Compared to, Isabela ciao is as close to ✅ as you can get using historical data. Also confirmed to Isabela are


 * The latter has no edits but the technical data makes me pretty certain of the connection. Spicy (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * - Isabela ciao signed up 14 minutes after Where is Matt? retired . I think it is fairly clear given the checkuser result, overlap, timecards, and edit summaries (e.g., ). Please, block Isabela ciao and Where is Matt? as proven to Banana Republic. Given the scarce behavioral data on הראש והעין, I'm not recommended a block, but I don't object to it if a checkuser thinks the technical data is enough. MarioGom (talk) 12:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * - UtherSRG (talk) 13:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * per the above. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Err, I already ran the CU. I just left it on checked because there was something I wanted to follow up on and I didn't have time. Anyway, I've blocked the accounts, including the one with the Hebrew name - technical evidence makes it very clear that that one is connected. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 15:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
On 24 Feb, Kikidoll13 Left this delightful first edit on my talk page which objects to my reversion of an edit made by banned sock puppet, Where is Matt? - a confirmed sock of Banana Republic. My revert. The behaviour was obvious but the user had so few edits, I was waiting to see how it progressed. They LOUTSOCKed with the IP, but were not secretive about it - making it clear they were one and the same. They appear to have realised this was too obvious and went quiet, but then Up the Walls began commenting on the same talk page, also picking at my rationale for removal of that content. I had seen the name Up the Walls somewhere before recently, and then today they showed up at Talk:Hunter Biden. . Hunter Biden (the main page, not the talk) was edited by Where is Matt? 19 times, his 4th most edited page. Looking at Up the Walls' edit count page, I noticed that there were quite a few single edits on pages but anything with more than one edit reminded me of Where is Matt? I noted that Up the Walls was created a month or two after Where is Matt? was banned. Thus I ran the following interaction analysis with Banana Republic confirmed socks: Based on this interaction analysis and the very close intersection of all pages with this sockmaster's known interests, as well as some potentially tendentious editing (see this comment about their editing, for instance ), I would say this one looks very much like a duck. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) Up the Walls with Where is Matt?  Of pages with more than 2 edits, 9 overlap, which is about a quarter of all Up the Walls edits in that bracket.
 * 2) with Isabela ciao, 8 overlap, 5 of which differ from the Where is Matt? overlap.
 * 3) with A girl in Latvia, 3 overlap, 2 of which differ from the above two
 * 4) with Banana Republic, 30 overlap with yet more examples that differ from the above.


 * Just to add,, in the previous investigation, found similarities in edums: "(Define "it") , this and this ". See this edsum (Define "notable") , and similar to the second group, link to the show's Hebrew Wikipedia article  (and ill link), and then Korean again: Use the Korean name . Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * - Up the Walls is clearly a sock of Banana Republic, per the presented evidence, and overall edit summary overlap. Kikidoll13 seems a bit different but might be just an alternative account on mobile. Please, check both. I think Up the Walls can be blocked on behavioral grounds alone. MarioGom (talk) 06:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Up The Walls is editing from the same specific geolocation as previous accounts and is ✅ to who is in turn confirmed to . That's an old sleeper! Kikidoll13 is ❌. . Spicy (talk) 23:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Up the Walls blocked and tagged (agreed, that's the oldest sleeper I've ever seen), lack of technical or behavioral evidence to link Kikidoll13 to the other accounts. The Wordsmith Talk to me 02:29, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Something about this account smells socky to me.


 * The account was created on April 4, about a week after the last sock Up The Walls had been blocked, and instantly starts jumping into American politics related articles - Brigid Kelly on the day of account creation, Mitt Romney, etc. One also needs to look at the fact a lot of these socks have edited the George Santos page (This new account, Where is Matt?, Isabela ciao and Up The Walls).


 * an interest in Eurovision topics that connects it - the last sock Up The Walls edited re Eurovision, as did Insitu dude, as did Isabela ciao, as did A girl in Latvia - and this account created a Eurovision-related redirect to tie it in even closer.


 * On the topic of creating redirects, it's something many of the past socks did as well - Insitu dude, Isabela ciao, A girl in Latvia and now this new one as demonstrated above.


 * All of the editors have a great interest in Israel-related topics - this new account added links to Hebrew WP, as did Up The Walls. The Israeli topic is also one Where is Matt? edited in.


 * However, perhaps the smoking gun of the whole thing is the edits made to Orange County related topics. Look at Orange County School of the Arts. The seas and skies are blue, Isabela ciao and the original sockmaster all have edits to this school page which seems to be edited by about 10 other editors per year on average. You look at the most recent account's edit to Orange County political figures and you can't help but notice Where is Matt on Phillip Chen, A girl in Latvia ALSO on Phillip Chen and Up the Walls on Sukhee Kang.

While I've done my best to collate what I could find from this editor's patterns, I'm requesting CU just in case this isn't DUCK-y enough, though the combined interests of Orange County related topics, Eurovision and Israel make it seem rather likely to me. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 14:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to .  Girth Summit  (blether)  13:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)