Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive

Report date March 25 2010, 12:10 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Blocked indefinitely per WP:DUCK. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:42, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tagged SpitfireTally-ho! 13:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

Report date March 26 2010, 02:12 (UTC)

 * Known sockpuppets
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)


 * Suspected sockpuppets

• BarzanPDK18 on 24 March 2010 • 142.165.218.56 on 26 March 2010   • BarzanPDK16 on 23 March 2010  • 122.164.243.70 on 26 March 2010 ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

case moved from Sockpuppet investigations/142.165.218.56 to /BarzanPDK18 SpitfireTally-ho! 10:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

duplicate case Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK20 moved here.  E lockid  ( Talk ) 02:15, 27 March 2010 (UTC) Two obvious socks blocked, I blocked the /24 for 2 weeks. Tim Song (talk) 20:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by ܒܓܕܕ (talk) 00:53, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

SpitfireTally-ho! 17:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think that the filer of this SPI is sock of a blocked and/or banned user. When the filer filed this SPI, it was his/her second edit, not very typical of a new user. Also, ܥܝܪܐܩ the person who is being investigated in this SPI recently filed Sockpuppet investigations/BarzanPDK18 which is currently active. There might be a relation, but that's just me.  E lockid  ( Talk ) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

to check the filer of this case against Per Elockid, and personal observation. Thanks, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Or any other recent socks of BarzanPDK1
 * Obviously the sock case as submitted is spurious. Found a match between BarzanKurdistan16 and the filing user, . –  Luna Santin  (talk) 00:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. This case should probably be histmerged with the main case and then deleted. Tim Song (talk) 05:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Moved from Sockpuppet investigations/ܥܝܪܐܩ. Tim Song (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Report date March 28 2010, 19:07 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peshmarga&diff=352583128&oldid=352579649
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PJAK&action=history

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kurdistan_TV&action=history ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 19:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Moved from Sockpuppet investigations/RojNews18  E lockid  ( Talk ) 19:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

I can use a check here. Tim Song (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC) ✅; nasty nest: Annoyingly all over very large ranges with lots of good edits, so no reasonable range blocks possible. &mdash; Coren (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (banned)
 * (looks unrelated) ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (probably unrelated) ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (probably unrelated) ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Confirmed blocked and tagged. Behavior of the two possibles do not match, so leaving as is. Tim Song (talk) 03:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Coren, could you check these too (fromCategory:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of BarzanPDK18):


 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

The users are all clearly him, and the IPs are part of a large dynamic range and not worth blocking. &mdash; Coren (talk) 02:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Report date April 3 2010, 22:14 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 22:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)

Same Saskatchewan-based Kurdish nationalist. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 22:14, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

The IPs are clearly him/her as both geolocate to the Saskatchewan in the same city with the same ISP and the edits made are similar and are towards the same types of articles. However, Barzan does have an affinity to creating lots of socks while also editing logged out, we could use another sleeper check.  E lockid  ( Talk ) 12:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

moved from Sockpuppet investigations/207.47.163.102 SpitfireTally-ho! 22:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

This is a DUCK case which doesn't need CheckUser. What we have is someone using throwaway IPs. I've blocked the 207 IP for 24 hours, but he's going to keep hopping like this, then I don't think there's much else we can do here. –MuZemike 02:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions

Report date April 9 2010, 00:30 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

All are present on Abdullah Öcalan and on other articles relating to Kurdish areas and political parties in Iraq and Turkey. Common traits are treating Iraqi Kurdistan or Kurdistan as if they were nation states, replacing the actual countries in question. Bolding of names like Iraqi Kurdistan. Changing the categories to certain ones they approve of (e.g. Yazidi). Adding and readding an infobox to Abdullah Öcalan. Removing Arabic spelling and pronunciation and other references to ethnic groups other than Kurds (not all have done that). Also note similarity in name between KomaMelek and KomaPizza. Not sure that TVLoverboy is the ultimate puppetmaster but I have put this in his name as that seems to be the oldest user of the group. The sad thing is that there is clearly some wiki skill and some ability to do valid edits here but it is all compromised by a POV agenda and the willingness to engage in sockpuppetry.DanielRigal (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by DanielRigal (talk); User:DilberLover111 added by Taivo (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * There's also two IPs making the same edits, 74.198.148.77, 64.110.203.196, both of which are in Canada. I second Rigal's comments above. TVLoverboy got a 24 hour block for disruptive editing, which was lenient because he had tried to engage me on my talk page. However after that, and many subsequent warnings, the editing continued without any change. Shadowjams (talk) 02:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've found even more IPs involved in this or similar edits, also from Canada. Both 142.165.218.54 and 71.17.51.32. The edits reduced Sinjar to a stub and removed a lot of other hard work. There looks to be more collateral damage I'll have to sort through as well. Shadowjams (talk) 02:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone might also want to look at this closed SPI investigation. Some of the usernames used in that are similar, the IP range is similar to some of them here (142.165.218.*), and so is the editing content. Shadowjams (talk) 02:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This POV edit from 207:47:163:102 is identical to ones made by McDLover16 and DilberLover111. (Taivo (talk) 05:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC))
 * This edit suggests that User:DilberLover111 is also part of the complex. (Taivo (talk) 05:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC))
 * We've got a new one: User:BigMacLover, added above. Shadowjams (talk) 22:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. He is removing Arabic and changing the country name and flag again. He seems to be trying out slightly dishonest edit summaries too, where he hides his POV blanking behind excuses such as lack of references. I am rolling back everything he does without even looking at it in any detail now. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Moved from WP:Sockpuppet investigations/TVLoverboy. Auntie E. (talk) 03:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I see enough behavioral evidence to endorse, with a request for CU to check for a connection between the above accounts and. Auntie E. (talk) 03:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


 * and already blocked socks thereof
 * Hers fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * and already blocked socks thereof
 * Hers fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * and already blocked socks thereof
 * Hers fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * and already blocked socks thereof
 * Hers fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Moved from WP:Sockpuppet investigations/McDLover16 per checkuser results -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 06:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Confirmed socks blocked and tagged. Behavior doesn't match for the possible ones, so leaving them alone. Tim Song (talk) 07:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Report date April 12 2010, 03:35 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 03:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * This user creates a new account and ditches as soon as he's been caught. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 04:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of BarzanPDK18
 * Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of BarzanPDK18
 * Yes. Its another one. Note the message he put on the user page (now removed), which is the same as some of the other socks used. Also there is the insistence on removing Arabic names and denying national borders. This guy just doesn't quit. He is now on his 7th sockpuppet report! He clearly sees the accounts as disposable and is willing to keep on registering them until somebody finds a way to stop him. He is relentless in his POV agenda in which he imagines he can help the Kurdish cause by pretending that a Kurdish state already exists. It seems that he thinks that putting stuff in Wikipedia makes it closer to becoming true. The fact that he gets reverted quickly doesn't put him off at all. He is disrupting a large number of articles on an almost daily basis and consuming the time of many Wikipedians who could be doing something more constructive than clearing up after him. Nothing else works so I fully agree than a hardblock of the IP should be considered. The only reason not to go ahead with this would be if it is shared with any legitimate users. Perhaps a formal ban on BarzanPDK18 is needed too. --DanielRigal (talk) 08:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And we have yet another new sockpuppet: User:KBCMJ. Am I allowed to formally add it to this report or is it too late now it has already been endorsed? --DanielRigal (talk) 07:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Another WP:DUCK. Is there any way to get these blocked quicker, so we're not having to waste time reverting him? ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 03:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

User:KBCMJ blocked as admitted sockpuppet, abusive comments. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * - Thanks Gogo. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 07:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * And another: User:MagicboySK. Note the signature style of bolding the names "Kurdistan" and "PKK". This time I think I nipped his reign of terror tedious annoyance in the bud on the very first edit. Lets see what he does next. Maybe he will register another or maybe he will give up for the day. BTW: I don't think he uses sleeper accounts. This one was registered just before its first edit. --DanielRigal (talk) 13:57, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Another account just appeared and was blocked: -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Here are some stats: I find this astonishing. Can nothing be done to put a stop to this? --DanielRigal (talk) 23:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Days since BarzanPDK18 joined Wikipedia: 21.
 * Confirmed sockpuppets: 23 registered users, 6 IPs
 * Suspected sockpuppets: 3 registered users, 2 IPs
 * Separate sockpuppet reports: 7
 * Socks/week (inc IPs): 11.33
 * Reports/week: 2.33
 * Mean time between sock registration (exc IPs): 19 hours and 23 minutes

Requested by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 03:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

Moved from Sockpuppet investigations/Centralboy. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 03:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Although I see it as a WP:DUCK, I'm going to recommend CU for a sweep of sleepers, also going to put in a request for a possible hardblock of the IP. Auntie E. (talk) 05:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

that the following are related to each other: --Deskana (talk) 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Centralboy blocked indef per DUCK and tagged. IPhoneBoy567 has not edited yet, so I'm not blocking it at the moment. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Report date April 19 2010, 05:03 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 05:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Blocked. Name is similar, and it Restored an edit by a confirmed sock. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 05:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Report date April 19 2010, 23:23 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 23:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * WP:DUCK and self-declared. User:MySuperTV blocked and tagged as a sockpuppet of User:BarzanPDK18.  -  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 01:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * please note that this case was archived from Sockpuppet investigations/MySuperTV, original page history can be found there. Thanks, SpitfireTally-ho! 11:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by ܥܝܪܐܩ
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357154822

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Asia&diff=prev&oldid=357107901

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BarzanPDK18/Archive ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 06:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users

 * Yes. That certainly looks like him. The removal of the (uncontroversially correct) note that Turkey is partially in Europe is something that he has done before, even though it serves no obvious purpose promoting his cause. I get the impression that he is probing more gently now trying to see if he can get anything in. Of course, the POV is still there too (Kurdish flag insertion) and I don't see any desire to reform, just a desire not to get caught. I can't see any way to avoid having to block his IP addresses. --DanielRigal (talk) 09:33, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Blocked the account after he showed up on my talk page. Per WP:DUCK. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
This user shows exactly the same pattern of editing as all the previous blocked socks of this blocked user on mostly the same articles: Kurdish Nationalist POV, insertion of Kurdish flags, bolding of certain Kurdish names (e.g "PKK"), changing categories, removing valid content and templates. Refer to edits by previous confirmed socks for more detail of the editing pattern. This one quacks unambiguously so I have already reverted all his edits. --DanielRigal (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Blocked and tagged. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man 13:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
This looks like yet another sockpuppet for BarzanPDK18. Note the preference for the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG one and the attempts to rewrite Iraqi Kurdistan greatly de-emphasising its existence as part of Iraq. Also removal of templates that link it to Iraq topics. With only three edits, this one doesn't quack as loudly as his average sock but my theory is that he is probing to see if he can get anywhere by being a bit less blatant in his POV editing campaign. Clearly he has no intention of stopping. I think we need to block his IP range before he does learn to fly under our radar and start getting his stuff in.

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Comments by other users
Definitely him. I think Daniel is right that a rangeblock is the only way to stop this. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Both accounts blocked per WP:DUCK and self-declared. A CU with an IP block or a range block may be helpful in this case, if a range can be safely determined. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

range blocking is probably not going to be possible here, as BarzanPDK18 tends to hop around on their range too much. However, endorsed for a sleeper check on the accounts listed above, which are pretty obviously related per 1 2 & 3. Thanks SpitfireTally-ho! 11:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen him using sleepers. He tends to register an account and use it right away. If a range block can't work, is there anything else we can do? He shows no signs of giving up and going away of his own accord. Should somebody contact his ISP, or would that be a waste of time? --DanielRigal (talk) 11:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Previous checks have turned up sleepers, and it's been a while since a check was done. Contacting his ISP would technically be possible, but would need to be done independently of SPI, WP:ABUSE doesn't seem to be very active anymore, so I'm not quite sure how you would set about contacing his ISP, furthermore, I'm skeptical that doing so would achieve very much. SpitfireTally-ho! 12:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's sort of what I expected. I guess we just have to keep on keeping on. --DanielRigal (talk) 12:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

No sleepers found. I have placed a rather small range block. This block has the advantage of having no collateral damage, so I was able to place a hard block... but it may or may not contain BarzanPDK18. --Deskana (talk) 02:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
This seems to be this blocked user and repeat puppetmaster coming back for another try after lying low for a while. Note the insistence on removing the perfectly uncontroversial note that Turkey is partially in Europe from Western Asia (which is a signature quirk he has), his preference for the PNG rather than SVG version of the Kurdish flag on Ey Reqîb (another signature quirk) and his general editing pattern in which he pretends that Kurdistan is already a country (distinct from the stance you would normally expect from a Kurdish Nationalist, i.e that is isn't yet but should become a country). He even uploaded a map of its supposed borders. His wiki skills are improving and his editing style is less obvious than it was. He has made some valid redirects, but his content remains highly POV. Rather than unpick the good and bad bits I have just reverted most of it.

Note 1: Checkuser requested partially for confirmation that his really is him and not another like-minded Kurdish Nationalist, and partially to check for sleepers as he created this account 6 days before first using it. If checkuser is inappropriate then please disregard and treat as a normal report.

Note 2: He seems to be honing his wiki skills somewhere. Perhaps somebody with the relevant language skills might want to check that he isn't putting similar POV material into any other language Wikipedias. --DanielRigal (talk) 13:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by DanielRigal (talk) 13:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

In addition to the submitted evidence, editing times are consistent with both the master and earlier confirmed socks. Additionally, editing history matches former socks. I note that edit summary patterns are identical, but common. Noting that I'll endorse this for confirmation, as this evidence is a bit circumstantial, and a sleeper check along with that can't hurt. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 13:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Nessum dorma. --jpgordon:==( o ) 23:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 04:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
These two show many of the same editing patterns as previous socks of this blocked user including always adding the same few categories and changing the Kurdish flag to PNG format for no good reason. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
GulaKCK blocked and tag updated. I'm not going to block the IP, Barzan probably found a new one by now. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
Here we go again. More flag fiddling. More treating Kurdistan as if it was a nation state. Similar editing style, with some variation. Also overwriting valid disambiguation pages with redirects to his favourite subjects as if the other items on the disambiguation simply don't matter. Similar interest in Turkish, Iraqi and Kurdish language TV stations. Has used socks with names like "SomethingLover" before.

Can we consider upping his block to a formal ban? That will make it clear that he is to be reverted on sight even when his edits look defensible, as a few of them sometimes do. This might be helpful as he is now making new articles like Tishk TV which it is not obvious how to deal with if they make some claim to notability. --DanielRigal (talk) 09:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Blocked and tag updated. Autoblock already took care of the IP. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 13:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
Its That Man Again! Similar pattern to before. Pretending that Kurdish regions of Iraq are not in Iraq. Removing valid references, categories and content. Inserting POV. Similar style to before. Seems to have used a name like AxsomethingAx before (see blocked User:AxLoriAx). I know he is blocked not banned but his edits are always more bad than good so I have already reverted everything he did without looking at it in great detail. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Blocked and tag updated. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
This seems to be our old friend again. His style is generally much more subtle now (with a few exceptions), so I am requesting a checkuser to confirm that it really is him. Even so, tell-tale signs remain: Adding category Yazidi to Kurdish articles that don't even mention the subject, removing mention of Iraq, removal of referenced content, and a pointless insistence on the PNG version of the Kurdish flag over the SVG version.

I am not reverting him completely this time as some of the edits are so minor as to be inoffensive, however I am worried that this might encourage him to keep up his POV editing at a low level. I would welcome advice on the best approach here.

Reasons for checkuser: --DanielRigal (talk) 08:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * To confirm identity, particularly of the IP which does not have enough edits to be sure just from the style
 * To investigate why the IP range block is not effective
 * To sweep for sleepers


 * I have added IP 71.17.73.97 as that twice removed the sockpuppet tag from User:DolmaiPhone. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:28, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by DanielRigal (talk) 08:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

. . The more recent checks have also found no sleepers. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

DolmaiPhone blocked and tag updated. 71.17.73.97 autoblocked which is the same ISP and general area as BarzanPDK18. The other IP I'm not touching since it's stale. I've been looking at the IP ranges based on previous investigations and they look like there are lots of other people editing in the other ranges, so no rangeblock I'm afraid. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 20:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
Its that man again! Note obsession with Kurdish TV, blanking of content he dislikes and adding category Yazidi to Kurdish related articles that are not specifically about Yazidi religion or culture. --DanielRigal (talk) 01:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

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They're all either socks of each other or of BarzanPDK18 (I bank on the latter). In either case, all registered accounts indefinitely blocked and tagged, 71.17.72.0/22 blocked 1 month. –MuZemike 01:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
Its him again. Not the use of "lori" and the number 18 in the user name, both of which have been seen in previous socks. Also, obsession with Kurdish TV stations and adding category Yazidi where it is not relevant.

Should we be looking to move to a formal ban on this guy?--DanielRigal (talk) 09:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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Lori18Lori blocked and tag updated. IP address listed autoblocked. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 11:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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Here he is again. Is everybody else getting as bored with this is I am?

His misleading/promotional/POV article got turned into a nice neutral, if rather boring, stub so he remade the POV article under a new title that was a spelling mistake of the old one. He also did his usual thing with the Kurdish flag. --DanielRigal (talk) 20:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. I also protected some pages where there is heavy long-term sockpuppetry. Hopefully that will slow them down. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 21:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
Its me again. Its him again. This time he is fiddling with articles about Kurdish Iraqi political groups as opposed to Kurdish TV stations but I think it is still him. He seems concerned to remove anything that acknowledges Iraq.

How many times do I have to report him to get the Barnstar of Repetitive Strain Injury? --DanielRigal (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tag updated. Made some more protections where it was just basically him/her for the past 3 months. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
He is back again. Not a huge amount of activity this time but enough to be sure it is him. There is a worrying trend too. Having had many of his favourite articles on Kurdish parties and TV stations protected, he is now moving on to vandalise articles about Turkish TV stations. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Note: I have added another: Laurier18. This is much more active and has made another new article and a ton of redirects. --DanielRigal (talk) 10:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

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Moved evidence to correct section. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

KineEm16 blocked and tagged updated. Shirik already blocked Laurier18 and it's tagged. Some of the articles that 64.110.203.41 which is autoblocked by the way, has been edited by BarzanPDK18 for quite some time, dating back to last year. Many including the Turkish TV stations have been for the most part edited by him before. I made a couple of protections where there has been long-term sockpuppetry. Redirects made by KineEm16 have been deleted under G5. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Ian.thomson
This smells a little foul to me. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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This vandalism made it bloody obvious enough. Blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 03:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
He is rolling back Abdullah Öcalan (a BLP) to the POV and unreferenced rewrite that he has submitted before under other socks. He is claiming some sort of official sanction for his behaviour, as he did with the Kurdish language TV station articles he vandalised in the past. Now he is trying to argue with ClueBot, like that will do him any good. DanielRigal (talk) 08:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tag updated. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
It looks like BarzanPDK18 is back after a short break. I wonder if he went anywhere nice for his holidays. It is the usual stuff. Inserting Kurdish flags, removing valid stub tags, other tags and categories, trying to deemphasise Iraq and make Iraqi Kurdistan look more like an independent country. DanielRigal (talk) 11:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tag updated. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by DanielRigal
The usual. Pretending that Kurdistan is a country. Removing valid tags. Using the PNG version of the Kurdish flag. Using spam links to his favourite Kurdish TV stations in ref tags as fake references. Bolding stuff. Making POV or improperly referenced articles for Kurdish TV stations. The IP address is in Canada, as with the previous ones. DanielRigal (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

03 January 2011

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After quite a long break (which might indicate that whatever blocking was used was effective) he is back. Note the fiddling with articles for Turkish and Kurdish Language TV stations and the changing of the Turkish and other flags for his preferred version of the Kurdish one. Also the username is quite similar in style to some of his previous socks. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC) DanielRigal (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 19:50, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just coming to say that the last sock is, but this account appears to be on the same ISP as the accounts listed in the archives (with no comment on the above IP). TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  19:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

05 February 2011

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Quack quack, dudes. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * Per WP:DUCK I've blocked and tagged the account. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

23 February 2011

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The same stuff as every other time. Kurdish Nationalist POV, plugging his favourite Kurdish language TV stations, pretending that Kurdistan is a nation state, adding Kurdish flags. DanielRigal (talk) 21:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * For the archive, this user is the same as Dasini11. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

11 October 2014

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This user is involved in POV editing in which they try to pretend that Kurdistan is already a nation state, as did BarzanPDK18 and their many sockpuppets. What makes me link this user to that sockpuppeteer account is that they show a peculiar desire to replace the SVG version of the Kurdish flag with a PNG one (e.g. ) as well as the same political agenda. Initially I thought this user was just somebody else with similar Kurdish nationalist sympathies who could do with advice on POV editing (which I tried to give) but the peculiarity of the flag changing makes me now think it is actually the same person, back after a long break but without any improvement in their understanding of NPOV. DanielRigal (talk) 16:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * - Please add diffs that make your point from both previously blocked socks and the current users so we can reviewing things. Without knowing where the change was made by previously blocked accounts, we can't proceed. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  16:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't relish having to pick over the diffs from all that old stuff but then I guess nobody else does either. You can get a flavour of the pattern of previous behaviour from the archived sockpuppet reports. Let's see if I can point out a few specific diffs and other things.
 * - Here is a shared pattern of removing Arabic (and other language names) to leave only Kurdish ones. SerokKurdi:, BarzanPDK18:
 * - Here is a shared pattern of changing location names to Kurdistan or parts of Kurdistan instead of the nation state they are currently part of. SerokKurdi:  BarzanPDK18:
 * - Here is a shared pattern of fiddling with the Kurdish flag to change it to PNG. SerokKurdi: EsmerXan (previously identified as a sock of BarzanPDK18):
 * One other thing to look for if doing a checkuser is whether the IP address is in Canada. I think all the old IP socks were.
 * Sorry if this is not as comprehensive as you might like. It would take me hours to cross reference all the edits by all the old socks. Is this enough to persuade you that there is something fishy enough to investigate further? DanielRigal (talk) 21:42, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * While CU is not 100% conclusive, the behavoir and the result are indicative of sockpuppetry, and i'm blocking the account. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  16:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Closing. Mike V  •  Talk  23:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

15 December 2014

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Same treatment of Kurdistan as an independent region in all edits (examples here, here, and here, but present in almost all edits), same obsession with particular TV stations like Zagros TV. CU for sleepers. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:06, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Added 204.83.255.46, as his edits to Sinjar massacre are part of TorontoKRD's edits there, and Western Asia follows BarzanPDK18 as usual. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * IP address geolocates to Regina, Saskatchewan, previous IPs geolocated to Swift Current, Saskatchewan; and Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan; so he probably lives somewhere between Regina and Swift Current. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * The edit for Zagros TV you've provided above looks very similar to edits from the previous sock. 1 2 Mike V  •  Talk  04:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * with regards to the named account. No comment on the IP, of course. Courcelles 05:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I've blocked and tagged the account. I've also given the IP a week block, as these two edits are very similar. 3, 4. Mike V  •  Talk  07:54, 16 December 2014 (UTC)