Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bayu Fuller/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
The three accounts have overlapping interests in Sharia law and LGBT rights. Most strikingly, they all have a certain agenda to establish that Sharia law has no place in Indonesia. See, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_and_democracy&diff=prev&oldid=1076727487 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regional_regulation_(Indonesia)&diff=prev&oldid=1077622161 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_rights_in_Indonesia&diff=prev&oldid=1059102269. They also have the same agenda in the Indonesian Wikipedia: https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perda_Syariah&action=history Also notice how they have the same style in writing the edit summary by adding ">>>" at the end of the sentence. Furthermore, both Bayu Fuller and Nathana Baskara have been indefinitely blocked in the Indonesian Wikipedia for sockpuppetry after the checkuser there found that they have the same IP: id:Wikipedia:Investigasi_pengguna_siluman/Bayu_Fuller. GuerraSucia (talk) 06:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - It is true that, a CU at id.wiki, found that the master and Nathana Baskara were socks. He also found that the master and Puspa Mayangsari were not. With nothing to go on but a machine translation, though, I found it unclear how much of these findings were technical and how much behavioral. I believe a local check would be helpful in sorting this out. Bbb23 (talk) 12:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 02:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm calling all three of these ✅ with a high degree of certainty. Given the idwiki CU finding that Puspa Mayangsari was not a sock, I gave that particular attention and found specific usage patterns which convince me they are.  My evaluation is based entirely on the technical data. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * do you mind to share your findings at cuwiki? Thanks! dwadieff ✉ 05:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Pro forma: already CU blocked. So this guy, an inveterate edit warrior, has been socking since mid-last year from a number of ranges. We should go through and find them all--but who wants to do that. Drmies (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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It looks as the days pass, more of an imperative to deal with the issue, from the perspective of the behavioural tendencies shown to date JarrahTree 03:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Re-tagged as confirmed to Bayu Fuller based on later reports. Requesting global locks and closing. MarioGom (talk) 22:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( originally filed under this user)

As they are apparently being drawn upon, perhaps someone with patience will need to do so. JarrahTree 07:00, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * , all the account above and below are exhibit similar interest in editing indonesian conflict and now, all of those account shows '' on their user pages. Ckfasdf (talk) 00:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In view of the editors disregard for rules or process in commons and here in english wikipedia, should not be taken as a point of closure of this issue/report. Most user page editing by this editor is false, and fake that has been used to deliberately distract a reviewer of the information, and generally disrupt processes.  It is very probable that the editor is reviewing the evidence at this report to guide further sock creation.  I do not think that dismissal of this investigation against the 'retired' game by the user can be left as it is.  The investigation needs to be adequately flexible to understand what is going on with the editors behaviour to date as to circumvent process and 'game' it JarrahTree 01:18, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I've separated these socks from Drmies' report above, since these are clearly not pro forma, and will need to be evaluated separately. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The IP range is already blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * - Adelbrecht Weltanschauung signed up within a month of Thijs Pieter and Eustatius Strijder. Timecards are very similar... in a pretty interesting way . They seem to follow the idea that retired tags are a block shield, as later socks expressed too . SUL attachments are worth noting. Similar talking points . Endorsing for a check. There's a few things (e.g. that timecard pattern) suggesting there could be a few other accounts. MarioGom (talk) 22:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Re-tagged as confirmed to Bayu Fuller based on later reports. Requesting global locks and closing. MarioGom (talk) 22:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( originally filed under this user)a

Account is just created after sockmaster blocked. He exhibit similar edit pattern to sockmaster such as making small unsubstantial edits and then reverting the previously reverted content (such as here). Ckfasdf (talk) 03:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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Good example of the usual playing with identity in the user page boxes, and assertions of being impervious to the block procedure:
 * 11:29, 24 January 2023 diff hist −34‎ User:Vandyke Willem ‎ retired as userpage, you are not allowed to block the account once it has been declared as retired and not used anymore.  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vandyke_Willem&oldid=1135349472
 * 10:32, 24 January 2023 diff hist −785‎  User:Vandyke Willem ‎ ←Replaced content with  ''https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vandyke_Willem
 * Clearly wanting to game the system.
 * Suggest that checkusers, clerks note this very carefully when excluding material that could otherwise identify the behavioural patterns. JarrahTree 03:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * New account created just today, exhibit similar edit pattern of playing with identity in the user page boxes and first actual edit in LGBT and Timor topics. Ckfasdf (talk) 14:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The alleged sockmaster admitted on my talk page that he indeed conduct sockpuppetry. Ckfasdf (talk) 00:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not just here the talk page item at commons is also admission of uploading non free items at commons:
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ckfasdf&oldid=725736714 - noting the specific attitude from the editor at that point...
 * The editor removes warnings here and on commons, and continues editing as if to show either no understanding of the impact of continued disruptive activity or blatant disregard for rules and policies on commons or here in english wikipedia JarrahTree 01:09, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In a blunt way, the editor is not very bright but is certainly self-politicized. Considering his IP's geolocation, probably isn’t self-aware enough, too. Juxlos (talk) 03:04, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Astute observation - comments such as https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=182.3.44.170 and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ckfasdf&oldid=725736714  confirm that JarrahTree 04:26, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Please, limit comments in this page to socking evidence. Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 21:50, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know if this is good news or bad news, but User:Nathana Baskara, confirmed as a sock related to this SPI, Sockpuppet investigations/Bayu Fuller, is also confirmed with and . Drmies (talk) 21:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * - per my comment in the 21 January 2023 report, and overall similarities, also endorsing a check of these two. MarioGom (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * - : Good timing ;-). The whole case should be merged to Sockpuppet investigations/Bayu Fuller. MarioGom (talk) 22:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * MarioGom, I'm dropping blocks like they're hot. Alexander Van de berg, Vandyke Willem, Adelbrecht Weltanschauung, Thijs Pieter, Eustatius Strijder, Puspa Mayangsari, Nathana Baskara are all confirmed to each other on a now-hardblocked range; Adelbrecht Weltanschauung, Vandyke Willem, Nathana Baskara, Slumpy Dumpy 21, Laidan Syahputra, Corrado Abrahamsen, Alexander Van de berg are all confirmed to each other on a range that has too much collateral, but that's where socks are created. Another CU might feel differently and block the range (it's the /20 that Slumpy is on). I left a (short) note on the CU wiki. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Cases merged —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 21:45, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Re-tagged as confirmed to Bayu Fuller based on later reports. Requesting global locks and closing. MarioGom (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * Behavioural and spelling and grammar return to articles previously edited items within the scope of Eustacious Strijder -
 * List of wars involving Indonesia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_involving_Indonesia&oldid=1139245549 vandalized was a Eustacious used term for edits not agreed with
 * Indonesian National Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indonesian_National_Revolution&diff=prev&oldid=1139240120&diffmode=source

good example of confusion of tense and plural (or lack of) in edit summary JarrahTree 10:37, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Also 15 February 2023 edit warring with deprecated unreliable sources
 * 19:34, 15 February 2023 List of wars involving Indonesia No edit summary use of deprecated (unreliable) source
 * 19:20, 15 February 2023 List of wars involving Indonesia Follow the main page pls Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit use of deprecated (unreliable) source
 * 18:50, 15 February 2023 List of wars involving Indonesia Restoring from Merbabu, follow the main page Tags: Manual revert Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit use of deprecated (unreliable) source
 * JarrahTree 11:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 21:03, 15 February 2023 C.Fred blocked Adamara149 talk with an expiration time of 72 hours (Edit warring) Tag: Twinkle


 * a behavioural hallmark of eustacious was edit warring with no concern JarrahTree 13:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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For what it's worth, I'm a familiar with this blocked user's editing, and can also vouch for what User:JarrahTree notes here. --Merbabu (talk) 10:43, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Technically quite - editing from two of the same ranges used by Eustacious Strijder. Account was created on 1 Feb, last socks were blocked on 30 Jan. Behavioural similarities. Blocked, lock requested. Closing.   Girth Summit  (blether)  14:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * As with previously encountered socks - the preoccupation is with the Papau conflict:
 * for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/149.113.107.177


 * 09:48, 2 March 2023 diff hist 0‎  Papua conflict ‎No edit summary Tag: Reverted
 * 09:46, 2 March 2023 diff hist +570‎  Papua conflict ‎ It is better to add a source, will add unknown strength for Indonesia first. Tag: Reverted
 * 08:44, 2 March 2023 diff hist +604‎  Papua conflict ‎No edit summary Tag: Reverted
 * for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/149.113.90.150


 * 08:21, 4 March 2023 diff hist +1,359‎  Papua conflict ‎ Done, the source have already been here before. Tag: Undo
 * 08:19, 4 March 2023 diff hist +286‎  Talk:Papua conflict ‎ →‎Readded back former support of Libya:  new section
 * 22:24, 3 March 2023 diff hist +789‎  Papua conflict ‎ added back former Libyan support for OPM under Gaddafi as of talk Tag: Reverted

The specific of the details can be found being discussed and edited in the former now blocked sock accounts now in the archive:


 * supporting country details

JarrahTree 02:29, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * IPs are blocked now, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 02:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)