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Admitted Little Brother. Diffs show it is obviously not the little brother if you look through the user talk interactions with admins and experienced users. Filing/asking for a CU so we can figure out who this is and see if there are any sleepers. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅, . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged. Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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Sole three edits consist of messing around with a declined unblock request on User:MrSunshine83s usertalk, making it appear as though the request was accepted. It's definitely *someone*'s sock. I strongly suspect it's said blocked user themselves, though I suppose a random troll or vandal who got there through the blocking admin's blocklog are theoretically possible too.

Requesting CU to check if user made any more socks. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: Hm, seems appropriate puppeteer would be User:Jenulot, whom MrSunshine83 was a sock of & who WordEater52 has just been blocked as sock of. (Hadn't seen that because the block log on MrSunshine83 didn't further specify the sock's master). Case will have to be merged into Jenulot's investigation. 'pologies for the extra work, clerks. =( AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * , this needs to be merged to the case for User:Jenulot. It’s a proven sock. Not sure if CU will be of much use. It’s a kid and I’m not sure if he’s smart enough for sleepers (DoRD didn’t find any last time.) Your call though. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, please merge per above. Thanks. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Already blocked and I tagged it, but just filing for the record so we have something here that is more recent than June given the scale of his socking. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Closing per above. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

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Harassment of me by an IP from Victoria, Australia. Filing for the record. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:25, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * 72 hour block. Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Suspected sock created The Essential Adam Ant, which I tagged for notability concerns with only a single critical review and a bunch of retail sites as sources. He removed the tag on multiple occasions without providing additional reliable sources. Sock master then notified me that someone else did a good job with the article, has denied it is him, and is now accusing me of being the IP, copying warnings I placed on the IP's talk page and my own. Notice as well, for more evidence that it is the same person, consecutive edits on The Essential Boz Scaggs in July 2018 made by the master and IP. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:19, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * In this edit, he removed the notability tag only adding text for the review that was already referenced within the Ratings box.
 * I and later another editor redirected the article but he simply reverted the redirects as done here and here.
 * After another attempt to redirect, an IP 114.77.72.34 recreated the article with this edit adding only an Amazon customer review.

User:Ben2719941 created the article The Essential Adam Ant, about a compilation album that doesn't appear to meet the NALBUM notability criteria. User:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars and I have both redirected it, and Ben2719941 has been reverting the redirects without improving the claim to notability. This morning, an IP removed the redirect, and was reverted by Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Then a brand new account, User:TheMusicMan94, appears, removed the redirect, and shows up on both of our talk pages claiming to be a new account and asking for advice on editing. I believe they are all the same person, and they are not getting it in terms of bothering to read the notability guidelines that they have been directed to many times. Girth Summit  (blether) 10:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If any additional evidence is needed, I note that warning templates and notification of this investigation were removed from the talk pages of both accounts at exactly the same time. Girth Summit  (blether)  13:08, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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I've corrected the malformatted entry for TheMusicMan94 above. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:34, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * The two accounts are ✅ and . Master blocked for 1 week and sock indefinitely. Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Blocked user evading block, not even trying to hide it's the same person with this user name. Editing the same articles, see, , within Category:The Essential. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:19, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * Admits it in . . NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * This is to, and based on the diff that  linked above and private information I have, I'm willing to say they're the same person. Will a clerk please merge the cases and tag as proven? Thanks for your help. I'll get a steward to lock the relevant accounts. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm just checking. You want me to merge the whole Ben2719941 case with Jenulot case?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , yes, please merge this with the Jenulot case. There are some technical differences, but I doubt that there are multiple people who use the name Ben in the same location, on the same ISP, and who blame their editing errors on having a disability. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:46, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * For the record, latest sock is User:TheMusicPolice98, indef blocked. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:24, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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See below. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:42, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to each other and extremely to the master . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

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He doesn't even try to hide who he is. Similar screen name, just edits articles in Category:The Essential. How do you stop someone like this? Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:08, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * LTA blocked. Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Same "The Essential..." edits, same edit summary, no attempt to hide obvious username. I've indef blocked, so this is mainly for the record. I haven't requested CU, I'll leave that in case anyone thinks it's needed for confirmation. And I don't know if a global lock is needed, like other socks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I've added BJM1994 too, already blocked in March (by me) and then globally locked, again just for the record as that one isn't in the archive. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:34, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Just found 131.172.31.172 too and added it, as it could be useful to have a record for geolocation purposes. The geolocation matches previous IP socks 203.27.47.150 and 114.77.72.34. I haven't bothered blocking 131.172.31.172 as it hasn't been used for 2 weeks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * - The last check in February identified four accounts, and they've got at least two on the go at the moment, so a check to see if there are any more might not be a bad idea. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * and accounts obviously ✅ to the master/other socks. . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:01, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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Pretty straight forward case. Editing primarily album articles in Category:The Essential, but the deadgive away is his attempts to reach out to User:Hughesdarren with comments like this and this with whom he communicated with as the IP such as here. Hughesdarren worked with him in good faith initially. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 18:26, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ and . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Ben is back modifying “The Essential” articles as is his wont avoiding his indefinite block. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 15:40, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ and . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:55, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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JukeboxMan1990 writes in the same way, edits the same category of articles, and on talk pages has been bringing up Ben2719941's edit history. See at User_talk:Fayenatic_london

User:Binksternet appears to have come to the same conclusion before me.( in the edit history of The Story – The Very Best of Spandau Ballet) – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:25, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * I am certain this is the same editor. We have a history going back 4 years ago as he was a new editor but very bad at it. I tried to help and he simply would never communicate. I started redirecting some of his article creations that were poorly sourced and, to me, failed notability requirements (such as The Essential Adam Ant and The Essential Survivor), which he took exception to and created new accounts, with User:TheMusicMan94 being the first one I became aware of. Ever since, he's continued to create new accounts as another sock is spotted. I wouldn't have known this latest sock even existed until he contacted me out of the blue in March of this year. Some suspicions arose after another contact in April but I did not pursue an investigation, though I did bring it up to him just over a month ago. He didn't deny it. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:29, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Mr London have been asking me to change The Essential albums into Greatest Hits albums if you look at the view history for The Essential albums you can see London removing an Category: Legacy Recordings from The Essentials if you want see more what London have been doing look at the view history of Each Essential and then you will see the Truth. JukeboxMan1990(talk) 9:54, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Big CIR problem here. Persistent socking. Binksternet (talk) 03:12, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Also Binksternet is going around remove genres from the article Radiohead: The Best Of, he got rid of Genre Indie Rock, Britpop and Rock. If you look at Radiohead: The Best Of you don't see any genres in the article.

JukeboxMan1990(talk) 2:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Technical data is consistent with prior socks. . TonyBallioni (talk) 05:05, 12 August 2020 (UTC)