Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BengaliHindu/Archive

28 October 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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The user ids have been used in a disruptive manner to distort the consensuses in these AfDs:
 * Articles for deletion/2012 Fatehpur Violence‎
 * Articles for deletion/2012 Hathazari Violence‎
 * Articles for deletion/2012 Chirirbandar violence‎

At first, User:BengaliHindu took part in those discussions to defend the articles. Here are the DIFFs:
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Fatehpur_Violence
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Hathazari_Violence
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Chirirbandar_violence

Then he used the sock ids to distort the consensuses of those discussions. DIFFs for Fazla Rabbi:
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Fatehpur_Violence
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Hathazari_Violence
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Chirirbandar_violence

DIFFs for Unknown.citizen12:
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Fatehpur_Violence
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Hathazari_Violence

DIFFs for Krishnendudelhi
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Fatehpur_Violence

DIFFs for Ssitaa1814
 * Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2012_Fatehpur_Violence

The sock ids have made few or no other edits outside these topics. Zayeem (talk) 07:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Unknown.citizen12 has previously only contributed in a CfD and a talk page which were also supporting the views of User:BengaliHindu indicating that both the users are related. User:Krishnendudelhi and User:Ssitaa1814 haven't made any contributions outside this topic indicating that these users ids are created simply to distort the consensuses and the creator is User:BengaliHindu since no other established users posted similar views in those AfDs before them. -- Zayeem (talk) 14:46, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

If you look at the histories of those AfDs, the AfDs were created on 22nd October. Between 22nd and 24th October, only User:BengaliHindu, the sock puppets and I have commented in those AfDs. After 24th October, the first comment was on 29th October by some other user. Neither User:BengaliHindu nor the sock puppets have made any comments between 24th and 29th October. I've also found that User:Ssitaa1814 was created on 22 October 2012 at 18:04 and posted a comment at 18:07, 22 October 2012‎, just 14 minutes earlier than 18:21, 22 October 2012 when User:BengaliHindu posted a comment. -- Zayeem (talk) 16:03, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Then I'd request for a Meatpuppet investigation also. But I think it's a subject of WP:IPSOCK. -- Zayeem (talk) 09:57, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok sorry, I'm just requesting for a Meatpuppet investigation also. I'm also suspecting WP:IPSOCK since the sock ids resulted unrelated in the CheckUser, thanks. -- Zayeem (talk) 12:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I'm not willing to check BengaliHindu as the only evidence for the check that has been provided is that he voted the same way as some SPAs on a few AFDs. This is insufficient evidence to run a check on an established user. I have checked the four listed sockpuppets, and they are ❌ to each other. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 12:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the additional evidence, but I feel you're somewhat missing the point here. The evidence you've submitted here amounts to "the SPA accounts agree with BengaliHindu". By that logic, we could also list everyone else that's voted to keep on the AFD as sockmasters. What's happening here is that you're speculating that the accounts are related, and that's fine, but speculation is not enough to run a check. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 15:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm still not satisfied that there's cause for a check here. Either way, the more I think about it, it doesn't really matter; they can't all be related to BengaliHindu as they're all unrelated to each other. They're probably just meatpuppets. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 19:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm getting fed up of this now. I've checked and I've told you they're unrelated. If you're not happy with that result, that's not my problem. No amount of conjecture from you will change the results of the check. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 11:02, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already told you that they're not related. Stop citing WP:IPSOCK, because you can easily see that using the checkuser tool. For the final time, I have checked and I've told you they're unrelated. This is a gigantic waste of time. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm closing this case. You're clearly not getting the picture. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

15 September 2014

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The user BengaliHindu is adding unproven allegation against Ahmed Hassan Imran who is a Rajya Sabha MP of India from West Bengal and editor of a Bengali daily newspaper. The allegations made by BengaliHindu were echo of a news story published on Anandabazar Patrika which didn't provide any proofs but referred only to allegations made by other politicians. Such allegations were challenged by Ahmed Hassan Imran himself and the reports are changing day by day in the newspapers. Posting those news stories from Anandabazar Patrika which is still unverified and is subject to court's verdict may damage his reputation and even harmful for a living person. I requested the user to wait till further reports and verification of those allegations but the user BengaliHindu continuously undid my edits consequently I also undid his edits then other editors Nirmalya1234 and Abhijit4law started making the same edits. I believe these 3 editors are the same person or the user BengaliHindu invited his friends to make those edits for him on. The article's history is relevant to this context. MehulWB (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I would like to add here the recent edits on the article Ahmed Hassan Imran based on selectively choosed news sources by user Malapati. I found his last edit was made on 15 January 2013. User BengaliHindu stopped editing after my messages on the article's talk page but I guess user BengaliHindu might have contacted the user Malapati to make the edits for him. I may be wrong but this strikes me as a motivated edit to add only allegations against the living person. I requested several times on the article's talk page with news links to avoid adding poorly sourced contentious material about the living person and to wait till court's ruling but continuous similar edits are being made on the article from the user and unknown IP.MehulWB (talk) 17:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * 5 of the 10 edits of Abhijit4law are clear  copyright violations whereas BengaliHindu has no history of copyright violations as far I can see.Further he been editing for nearly 5 years with over 5600 Edits with no previous blocks.The other editor has  Nirmalya1234 has only 3 edits 2 reverts and 3rd one copy paste text which an established editor will not do .But feel here BengaliHindu needed to be given  WP:AGF here as the behavioral evidence is not very clear and have left note to Salvio giuliano  . But the Blocking Admin is  right and it is within his discretion.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I am writing here only about Sockpuppet, not related to any COPYVIO,3RR or other issues. The user user:BengaliHindu not using anykind of any other account at all. You can check this in your way. But practically he is very know to me. - Jayanta Nath (Talk|Contrb) 07:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

user:BengaliHindu contacted Jayanta Nath to favor him against the block. I guess in similar way, the other two accused are different individuals personally known to him and were asked to make the edits in favor of him from their own computers to avoid spi.--MehulWB (talk) 07:40, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  22:15, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * - - Likely as not to be meatpuppetry, could a CU take a look please. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:31, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Technically speaking, this is just a match. I'm afraid the connection will have to mainly be based on behavioural evidence.  Salvio Let's talk about it! 10:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeffing socks and blocking master 72 hours. Closing.