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Suspected sockpuppets

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The master was blocked for attacking me personally about disputes at Baidya. These people are continuing. TrangaBellam (talk) 09:18, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Update:
 * Safron 710 was blocked as a suspected sock of "Bengaliwikipro" who has a number of blocked socks. Some have been CU-ed. Administrator RegentsPark has supported opening an SPI.
 * অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা has been indefinitely blocked.
 * BengHistory has been topic-banned via AE; doubts were raised that he is a sock. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you are the only CU, I have ever conversed with. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * BengHistory has been topic-banned via AE; doubts were raised that he is a sock. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you are the only CU, I have ever conversed with. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you are the only CU, I have ever conversed with. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The following are ✅ to User:Bengaliwikipro:
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find any technical connection between this group of socks and User:অভিরূপ দাশশর্মা but another checkuser might have more patience. User:BengHistory is technically ❌ to Bengaliwikipro unless I missed something. Can a clerk change the master for this case to Bengaliwikipro? I can't put the normal SPI blocks on these accounts using the template unless the master is shown correctly. EdJohnston (talk) 04:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅. I also everyone except, who isn't blocked yet.  --Blablubbs (talk) 10:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I've now blocked and tagged User:Josua4533. I think this can be closed. EdJohnston (talk) 17:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Miller110 was blocked as a suspected sock by User:Bbb23 on 10 January but the editor denied the charge. I was asked to look for technical evidence on them and on Satnam2408. Maxwell6666 was not mentioned before but turned up in my check. EdJohnston (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * On some thoughts, I believe Satnam2408 is not a sock but just shares the same POV. I am withdrawing my request. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Filing this for the record. User:Miller110 and User:Maxwell6666 are ✅ as socks of Bengaliwkipro based on some data I had kept from a previous check in August. Can a clerk decide whether to tag? So far as I can tell User:Satnam2408 is ❌. In Satnam2408's case, behavioral evidence might be considered. Both the innocent and the guilty edit from a single very large range, but those I blocked had more similarities. EdJohnston (talk) 19:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Tagged the two confirmed accounts. Bbb23 (talk) 19:53, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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1a and 1b 2a and 2b Ekdalian (talk) 13:44, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks, EdJohnston and RoySmith. Would request you to go through the links I have shared above, 1a & 1b and 2a & 2b, which clearly shows the intent and behavioral similarity. One shows almost similar POV edits on Sena Dynasty, while the other refers to the same source (rejected earlier) on the two equivalent & common Baidya surnames, Sengupta and Dasgupta. Like the sockmaster & all their socks, these accounts are basically meant for POV pushing on Baidya/Vaidya caste, though the one active now is editing some other caste articles possibly after learning some lessons as WP:SPA. Thanks & Regards. Ekdalian (talk) 10:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I had looked at the links (thanks for supplying them) but what I saw there wasn't enough to convince me of socking. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:27, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking thoroughly. I am trying to point towards behavioral similarities. Another example, Miller110 showed interest on Pala Empire, one among their first 5 edits, and look at the coincidence, the 1st edit by Nobita456 was on the same article. Not too many editors edit articles like Pala Empire. My responsibility is just to point it out, I guess you are much better as far as drawing conclusions are concerned. Thanks & Regards. Ekdalian (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Update: One behavioral dissimilarity is Nobita456 is engaging in discussions and trying to achieve consensus. Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 13:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Do not underestimate the incremental competence of socks :) Requests for arbitration/Regarding Ted Kennedy hold that
 * Accordingly, Nobita456 might be blocked. Another interesting similarity lies in the user names: 6 alphabets concatenated to 3 numbers. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * EdJohnston and RoySmith, would request you to reconsider the case. I guess TrangaBellam is right. Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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1.I don't need sockpeperty as I have provided sources(see talk page discussions)
 * Hello Admins goodmorning.

2.I live in a big city, multiple persons can have same ip range and I am from westbengal so my edit of interest is Bengal realated articles.

3.TrangaBellam is claiming me sock on a base of suspicion see here in a talk page discussion which is a violation of WP:NPA and WP:GOODFAITH.

4.Ekdalian who filed a complain against me earlier here also identified my dissimilarities with that account.

5.No issue of dispute has arisen as I am editing after discussion so the claim as quoted by TrangaBellam is illogical. Nobita456 (talk) 08:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * These editors Trangabellam and Ekdalian are deleting my well-sourced(I also provided that on the talk page of Baidya for them) content without proper explanation see 1 2 and then complaining here without trying to achieve consensus on the talk page see.Nobita456 (talk) 11:07, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * User Trangabellam also added a controversial line " Baidyas' claims of Brahmin origin to lay on "slender" grounds " citing a direct census report which adds no values in caste-related article(which TB also admitted ) but when I raised a query on here he instantly deleted that see.I mean if they continue to revert my sourced contents it will be very tough for me to contribute to Wikipedia. please take some action. thanks. Nobita456 (talk) 11:28, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Miller110 is a sock of WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Bengaliwikipro. Can an admin clerk please histmerge this case to there? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 14:38, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobita456 is to Miller110 and Maxwell6666, but they're also  to Satnam2408.  It's all big mobile ranges so could well be nothing more than multiple people who live in the same city.  Probably best not to put much faith in the CU results.   -- RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I still have some records from previous checks. I agree with Roy that Nobita456 is to Miller110 and Maxwell6666. Nobita456 matches the IP range of the other two, while Satnam2408 does not (on the range I selected). The range I selected has no saved edits by anyone other than Miller110, Maxwell6666 and Nobita456. Miller110 and Maxwell6666 shared another similarity with each other that is visible to CU but they do not share that same similarity with Nobita456. All these guys want to edit about the importance of various castes in Bengal. I did a quick look to try to find identical edits on the same article or talk page but found none. EdJohnston (talk) 19:22, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @EdJohnston Could I ask you to upload your notes to cuwiki? My exploration was strictly on the CU data and I didn't dive into behavior.  But I do want to mention that I'm wary about drawing conclusions about accounts which overlap on caste topics.  It's a hot subject, and doesn't seem surprising that you would find several people on the same IP range with the same opinions. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:28, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I came back to this and took another look at Nobita456. I don't see anything that convinces me they're a sock, so I'm going to close this, with no prejudice against anybody filing a new report if new evidence emerges. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I would like to highlight some conclusive (IMO) behavioral pattern since as per latest investigation by CU and subsequent comments by admin, "Behavioural evidence needs evaluation" as far as Nobita456 is concerned. Coming to the behavioral evidence: Bengaliwikipro and their socks showed unusual interest on Baidya, and another article Bengali Kayastha since they had inter caste rivalry during medieval times (regarding who ranks higher after Brahmins in Bengal); agenda is to promote Baidya (puffery) & demote Kayasthas (caste war in 2022)!
 * 1) 1 as rightly pointed out by TrangaBellam while rejecting Nobita's proposed section.
 * 2) 2 Comments by Sitush clearly rejecting the proposed section, but misinterpreted (seems intentional) by Nobita. Sitush mentioned he could not submit his opinion on Bengali Kayastha talk page through his app, having trouble with pings, diffs & viewing convoluted discussions, and Nobita's interpretation is this on Talk:Bengali Kayastha.
 * 3) 3 comments by Gorezka46 (another sock of Bengaliwikipro), who similarly showed interest on Bengali Kayastha apart from Baidya.
 * 4) Behavioural evidence, random comments by Nobita, 1, 2, same pattern be it talk page comments or edit summary; just have a look at the sentences; none of the sentence begin with Caps after full stop. Same is evident for Bengaliwikipro & their socks e.g. Miller110's edit summary 3, Biplop4568's edit summary 4, in fact the sockmaster Bengaliwikipro's edit summary 5, also Nobita's edit summary 6, Miller110's talk page comments 7, all follow the same behavioral pattern; no Caps even after full stop! It is difficult to hide/change the writing pattern.

Also, namimg convention as pointed out by TrangaBellam during the latest CU discussions, almost all the socks have similar naming convention; TrangaBellam's comment is provided: "Another interesting similarity lies in the user names: 6 alphabets concatenated to 3 numbers." Ekdalian (talk) 09:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Comments By Nobita456


 * Ekdalian are you serious? This is the third investigation you are filing against me. I was already proven clean in my previous Sockpuppet Investigation. I can't waste my time every time to prove myself innocent against your daily allegations. Still, only one thing I would like to add that, I edit on my mobile where because of autocorrect, the caps remain off after a full stop. The rest of the theory by you regarding Baidya-Kayastha is complete nonsense. The RSN told us to remove that Hutton book, but I still didn't remove it favoring Kayasthas. Just because I am exposing your Povs(which other editors also supporting) you are trying to take me out nothing else.Nobita456 (talk) 09:22, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Admins please see I raised doubts and opposed Hutton and U. A. B. Razia Akter Banu's books which were ultimately judged as unreliable, see 1 and 2 by Admins and senior editors. So Ekdalin accusing me of a certain community hater is completely pointless, but we can definitely assume that Ekdalian is a certain caste glorifier. Nobita456 (talk) 09:49, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Nobita456 (talk) 11:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Caste warring is one of the more difficult areas to identify sockpuppetry amongst the sea of editors whom are unrelated but nonetheless argue incessantly to prove Wikipedia is just plain wrong. I'm not seeing enough in the evidence here to call this sockpuppetry. However, this does not mean that 's behaviour is not disruptive, nor that they are not a sockpuppet. Their disruption appears as if it will be managed by AE sanctions ( As a courtesy), and therefore there's nothing remaining to be done at SPI at this time. . --Jack Frost (talk) 11:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I strongly recommend that you read the notice on your talkpage regarding the Arbitration Enforcement sanctions which now apply to you. To quote, you are topic banned from any caste related edits, broadly construed, (ALL edits relating to castes and ethnic/social groups across all namespaces) until Sunday May 29, 2022. Your edits on this page almost certainly fall foul of this topic ban. --Jack Frost (talk) 11:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)\
 * Bish already punted him for a week for the violation, rightly so. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 17:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)