Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bhaktivinode/Archive

Evidence submitted by Wikidas

 * Evidence of illegal voting
 * Diff1, Diff2 -- immediate reaction in AfD discussion of a sock. Use of sock in AfD discussion vote (3rd nomination).
 * Diff1, Diff2 -- a last vote to swing the AfD vote.


 * Evidence of identical signatures in edit descriptions
 * Diff1, Diff2 - signature style similarity.
 * Diff1, Diff2 -- signature style second identical.
 * Diff1, Diff2 -- third identical signature style.
 * Diff1, Diff2 -- rvv signature identical.


 * Style of User page
 * Diff1, Diff2 - identical style of use of userboxes and identical style of non-archiving personal talk page.


 * Areas of interest
 * Connected with ISKCON and American History.

Further information is available on request, if you examine style of signing off in a discussion, style of dealing with AfD (a comment on the vote), vocabulary in discussion and (ocassional) spill out edits on ISKCON areas of Interest it explains the creation of the sockpuppet account under the name of Ism schism, that lead to a massive AfDs started by the sock in the ISKCON leadership areas. Notably style of edits did not change nor the arguments that being used in AfD discussions started. Other users suspected second account being a sock and opened a different investigation, possibly misdirected, but definitely conclusive that Ism schism account is compromised sock account. With the evidence of the above and with undeniable similarities of the signature and talk styles it can be now checked and verified by the checkuser. Wikid as&#169; 07:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Deskana is Checkuser, and I stand corrected on this one, I have to agree with him and follow the rules of conduct. Wikid as&#169; 17:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you wish to provide additional evidence, please feel free to do so, and I will gladly reconsider the case then. Additionally, providing a Code letter might help. --Deskana (talk) 18:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The vote fraud links are here,, , , , , I am not sure if it falls in "Vote fraud for a closed vote where the possible sockpuppet votes affect the outcome", but in most cases it did affect the outcome, including first two where the article was later re-created and now in 'keep' status of the vote. Please do not hesitate to tell me if I should provide more evidence. Wikid as&#169; 19:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users
The voting incident is extremely old (+2 years) and the edit summary abbreviations (ie: rvv) are common and used by a number of editors. Might there be something more you can add? It all appears very circumstantial to me. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 19:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There are two voting incidents I am citing. One is very recent, two days ago. That is why a quick checkuser run. Wikid as&#169; 04:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, a lot of this seems very vague and circumstantial (ie: userboxes, whose content is different). There are only so many ways one can lay out userboxes. I understand your desire to "sniff out a sock", but I'm just not seeing anything in the diffs given that are unique to both users.  -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 17:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I presented sufficient evidence for sock activity, the fact that you did not look at the more recent case of vote in AfD shows that you are not deeply reading the diffs. I agree however that it is not a simple case and that is why we need the CheckUser word on it. Wikid as&#169; 08:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I did read the diffs, but I still feel that much of the presented information is circumstantial. But then again, we can always agree to disagree :-)  Regards -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 23:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by Wikid as&#169; 06:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

–MuZemike 05:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

. I'm with Nsaum75, here. Almost all of the evidence seems circumstantial and I just can't justify using checkuser based on this evidence. --Deskana (talk) 15:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)