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14 August 2014

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Same edits. Same mispellings and grammar in edit descriptions. Man way  16:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * That explains perhaps why the sock (and it is a sock) threatened to block an IP. Here  we see the sock reinstating an edit by Biar122. The same thing here and . I'd block but I've been reverting him, so could someone else? Dougweller (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * is ✅, blocked and tagged.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

15 August 2014

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He's starting again with the same edits to the same articles. Man way  22:03, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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This account has no connection to Jamesgoldbo007-account. I just did one minor edit in the article. I realize that she was not a step-mother when I read your article Ayşe Hatun.

According to the content of the article Ayşe Hatun, this was my decision. If you read the article Ayşe Hatun, she is a real mother of Selim I, not an adoptive or step mother. This is so in your List of the mothers of the Ottoman Sultans article as well. Otherwise, the content of the article Ayşe Hatun needs to be modified.

Thanks

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 * I rescind this report. I may have acted in haste. Please close this SPI. Thank you. -- Man way  18:10, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * Closing as requested by filing party.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:15, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

17 August 2014

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Reverting the reversions from Jamesgoldbo007, a confirmed sock of Biar122. Same edits, same type of comments to edits. ,, , ,  Man  way  19:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

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Blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * And ✅ for the record.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:00, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

21 August 2014

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Same edits, same cryptic edit summaries, same refs added. This doozy was introduced: "Cites can't be called as sources." See, , , , Obvious sock is obvious. Request IP block, please? Man way  15:53, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * , and  have all been blocked as ✅ socks.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  16:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

27 August 2014

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 * Gjon Kastrioti: (Biar122: diff, Acrogue (diff))
 * Balša II: (Biar122: (diff) Acrogue (diff)) Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:38, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:45, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

08 September 2014

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Same edits. Same comments. See, ,. Obvious sock is still very obvious. Man way  03:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked this morning per notification on my talk page.--Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 22:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

15 September 2014

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Biar has a history of persistent disruption & socking. As soon as he was indefinitely banned [] (9 Aug.), he didn't lose the opportunity to create a new account & started socking again, just a few hours latter the same day: []. The behavioural evidence appears striking:


 * Both accounts display persistent obsession in adding the Albanian origin in biographies. Especially, the addition of same text, same references & even same edit summaries in the same biographies leaves no doubt that he is the same person:
 * Panagiotis Kone: BIAR: [][], FIVA: []


 * Panajot Pano: BIAR: [] FIVA: []


 * In similar fashion both account are interested to add the supposed Albanian origin in a wide variety of biographies, by using the same poor citation style (giving only a url, usually from googlebooks, without any further information): BIAR: [][][] FIVA: [][]

Identical Google reference dumping on Markos Botsaris to blocked sock Edit-warring to add Niocola Barbato.jpg and two other pictures on Arbëreshë people. Biar122 added the same picture. Similar grammatical mistake as blocked sockmaster Added Halit Ergenç.jpg and two other pictures on Albanians in Turkey. Jamesgoldbo007 added the same picture. --Δρ.Κ. <sup style="position:relative">λόγος<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">πράξις 21:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Both accounts use the same edit summaries in most of their edits (most probably editing with cellphone) BIAR: [], FIVA: []
 * Same interest in adding people in the infobox in Albanians in Turkey: BIAR: [], FIVA: [] Alexikoua (talk) 19:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Dr.K.
 * Fiva16 vs Will123Smith
 * Fiva16 vs Briar122
 * Using the term "speaked" for past tense of "speak" in edit-summary
 * Fiva16 vs Arb12345
 * Similar edit to another Biar122 sock
 * Similar edit to at Albanians in Turkey
 * Fiva16 vs Jamesgoldbo007
 * Request to merge SPIs
 * Blocked sock City12345 admits s/he is Biar122 and Arb12345. Perhaps these two SPIs can be merged. Given also Sockpuppet investigations/RcLd-91 which further connects Arb12345 to Malbin210, there could be a case where the Master may be Malbin210.

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged.--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 21:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

02 October 2014

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Identical M.O. to all the other socks: Trying to prove the Albanian origin of historical figures. Similar username format to rest of socks. Stylistic similarities to the other socks as well. Δρ.Κ. <sup style="position:relative">λόγος<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.5ex;*left:-5.5ex">πράξις 16:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Evidence
 * Reverting and reinstating sock edits of  with edit summary: Found sources for sockpuppeter's statements.
 * Reinstating sock edits of with edit summary: He may have been a sockpuppeter but had good sources. - Got reverted by FPaS.
 * Trying to prove Garibaldi had Albanian roots.
 * Gets reverted by as a sock.
 * Trying to prove Carlo Buonaparte's Albanian roots.
 * Indeffed by FPaS
 * I guess that does it. Thanks go to for concluding this SPI. Δρ.Κ. <sup style="position:relative">λόγος<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.5ex;*left:-5.5ex">πράξις  17:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked by .--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 20:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

28 January 2015

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Similar MO to previous: trying to prove Albanian origin using "references" to Google books without preview. Diffs e.g. Luka Modrić, Nicolas Anelka, edit-warring at Sergio Ramos including reference to Panajot Pano who came up in one of the earlier SPIs. Similar style of username. Quacking very loudly. Struway2 (talk) 16:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * We had the discussion before and it was just, in Ramos' case, that he made a sign after a goal. Nothing is confirmed and there is nothing to. Kante4 (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * I came across them independently. Already ✅, blocked and tagged.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:54, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

22 September 2015

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Their first edit was to attribute Albanian origin to the footballer Niklas Süle, citing a bare link to books.google.al. The sort of edit that numerous previous socks have made. They then reappeared on a mission to assign Albanian ethnicity to the footballer Zlatan Ibrahimović, based on a line in a blog on the TIME magazine website and claims of multiple Albanian sources; the only one produced says Mr Ibrahimović knows a few words of the language... See recent history of Ibrahimović page, "discussion" at WT:WikiProject Football. They also edited Muhammad Ali of Egypt to remove sources suggesting Turkish rather than Albanian origin, as Biar122 had before, and made the same grammatical mistake "speaked" in their edit summary as previously noted with Fiva16 and Arb12345. It's a long time since the last report, so I'm guessing checkuser wouldn't have anything to work on, but it looks like a duck to me. Struway2 (talk) 09:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * I blocked a couple of socks in August, so the data is still fresh. I've now blocked:


 * as socks.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

08 November 2015

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Duck. Both editors adding Albanian or Arbereshe origin to footballers. Pilapeil78 editing Sergio Ramos, a longtime target, using two sets of sources. The second pair are the same as used by previous sock. The first pair don't point to any accessible target, and are formatted similarly to that used by Stupidness2 at Marcos Rojo. Struway2 (talk) 21:38, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Comment: For people who don't know, Arbëreshë people area distant branch of Albanians living in Southern Italy. That's how I knew there was a problem with that user and reported his difference. I must say that the unorthodox manner of setting up the references makes me think that the same individual is behind it. &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 21:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Indef-blocked both and .  They're obviously socks per the duck test, so no need IMO to do a CU.  Closing now.  —  Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:29, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

28 November 2015

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Usual modus operandi. Adding Albanian descent to articles, "sourced" to targetless links. Tyuu20 is absolutely typical, e.g. 1, 2. Jinny43 is a development: interspersing gossip-column stuff with the characteristic Albanian descent "sourced" to a sfn-formatted targetless link, here, and removing Tyuu20's edit at Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang with edit summary "unreliable source" before reinstating it soon afterwards claiming "After a check the source seem reliable". Requesting checkuser for sleepers. Struway2 (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Adding Text54: making same style of edit to article already targeted by blocked users and. Struway2 (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked all three as clear WP:DUCK. GiantSnowman 19:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Nothing more to do. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 21:54, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

01 January 2016

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Strapazzoni0: Added Albanian origin to footballer Mateo Kovačić, citing page in Croatian that doesn't mention Kovacic having Albanian origin and two copies of the picture of Ibrahimovic, Kovacic and somebody else making an eagle sign with their hands; one of the links is dead, so maybe they were just copied from a previous sock's edits. Then repeatedly added a suggestion that the footballer Héctor Bellerín had an Arbereshe surname, "sourced" to a Google Books link to an Albanian book with no pageview.

Usuiko: Many edits, including: tweaking the wording of Strapazzoni0's edits at Héctor Bellerín; at Zlatan Ibrahimovic, pushing the inclusion of Albanian origin citing the same TIME magazine blog as did previous sock (see Sockpuppet investigations/Biar122/Archive); at footballer Marko Arnautović, adding Albanian origin sourced to 5 separate sources for the same piece, which speculates as to whether 5 footballers have Albanian connections or not: its evidence for Arnautovic is that Arnauti means Albanian. etc etc

Requesting checkuser for sleepers. Struway2 (talk) 16:41, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

11 January 2016

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Repeat of edits by user:Usuiko, another sock. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

15 January 2016

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Same pattern: Adding Albanian ancestry to BLPs. Jaellee (talk) 15:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

21 January 2016

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Tugioy45 reverted the blocked sock master's dubious edit. IP makes mention of Panagiotis Kone, edited by several of Biar122's socks. User likes to use two digits in usernames, see the last four SPIs.--Z oupan 14:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC) Z oupan  14:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Does it mean that I am a sock (whatever it means) of this Biar. I have seen the case with Panagiotis Kone because he used to claim that he was Greek in Greece and Albanian here in Albania even though I didn't mention him at all. I use two digits because sometimes when i use four it comes two usernames. I also reverted Ibra's page not because of Biar but because it has a reliable source while you deleted the content only because you think so.Tugioy45 (talk) 14:25, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ...Right, popping up from nowhere, like.--Z oupan 14:40, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I really don't know what you mean, still go find some evidence and stop wasting my time.Tugioy45 (talk) 14:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You like to claim people as Albanian using unreliable sources. As per blocked for example, and all other Biar122 socks. Read WP:RS for once, would you?--Z oupan  15:03, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, and tagged. IP blocked two weeks. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:04, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

24 January 2016

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repeat of edit by other socks at e.g Meksi family Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:18, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged. I also semi'ed Meksi family.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:42, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

11 February 2016

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Repeat of edits by similar socks at Meksi family. Mutt Lunker (talk) 09:01, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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✅ - -Philippe (talk) 04:59, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

09 March 2016

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Adds Albanian descent to several BLPs, e.g.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaellee (talk • contribs) 11:19, 5 March 2016 Z oupan  02:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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Seriously, this is the proof you got and you call me a sock, you can just warn me. Utopiaurimi (talk) 05:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅ to Biar122:
 * The following accounts are ✅ to :
 * is to Rolandi+.
 * All accounts blocked and tagged appropriately.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅ to :
 * is to Rolandi+.
 * All accounts blocked and tagged appropriately.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * is to Rolandi+.
 * All accounts blocked and tagged appropriately.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * is to Rolandi+.
 * All accounts blocked and tagged appropriately.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

9 April 2016

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Adds Albanian descent to Lionel Messi. The same pattern as all the sockpuppets before. --Jaellee (talk) 17:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * You don't get the difference between the origin of somone and ethnicity. Work with that and stop accusing. I'm not even Albanian, i'm Mexican and I really don't care about Albanians at all. Pustot9 (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

This user has also edited at Meksi family, as part of a rapid sequence of edits with another sock identity, User:Vrummm. Isn't fooling anyone but themself with this pattern. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:47, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

The same pattern in the Luca Toni article. He possibly also uses the IP. --Jaellee (talk) 06:15, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * , and  are all ✅, blocked and tagged.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  21:16, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

17 April 2016

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Adds Albanian descent to Luca Toni. The same pattern as all the sockpuppets before, especially like the recently blocked sockpuppet   --Jaellee (talk) 20:14, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * . Indeffed and tagged. CLosing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:55, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

30 April 2016

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Adds Albanian descent to Lionel Messi. Slightly modified pattern in the first try where he/she tried to bury the Albanian descent in a pile of other stuff, but with the second edit to Lionel Messi it is the same pattern as the other sockpuppets.

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

9 May 2016

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Again adding of Albanian descent. The IP:

Humanchino:

Same pattern like previously blocked puppets like e.g.

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 * is ✅, blocked and tagged. I've semi'ed the article for a bit to help prevent further disruption.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:58, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

15 May 2016

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Repeat of edits by similar socks at Meksi family. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:30, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged based on behavior. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

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Repeat of edits by similar socks at Meksi family. Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * , and  are ✅ and blocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  21:13, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Again: Adds Albanian descent to Lionel Messi . The same pattern as the other sockpuppets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaellee (talk • contribs)
 * A clear case to me. Also adding Zlatan Ibrahimović as albanian (diff), just like a previous sock (diff). <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 17:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * Shoku27 and are ✅, blocked, and tagged. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Adding unreliably (and incorrect) content saying people are albanian, just like previous socks. For example compare this edit from the "new account" with this edit from a blocked sockpuppet. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 21:06, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:58, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

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Adding claims that Messi is Albanian: Previous socks did similar edits:,  --Jaellee (talk) 17:10, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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The account is. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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User pushes Albanian ancestry on celebrities using unreliable sources. Most often vandalizes Lionel Messi, and several times John Cena and Zlatan Ibrahimović: by Shoku27, by Guiopli. Z oupan 03:15, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Based on the behavioral similarities (making mainly mobile edits, just like the master, and obsession with Albanian nationality/ethnicity - ) please compare this account to previous socks, such as, , and . Thanks, GABgab 15:11, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked and tagged.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:04, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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Same behaviour as previous socks adding different BLPs as "Albanian". For example at Zlatan Ibrahimović. The latest edit at Ibrahimovic from this editor (diff) is exactly the same as an already blocked sock (diff). CU request to check for other accounts as sockmaster has a habbit of creating several accounts at the same time. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 10:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Please, check for sleepers.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:10, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked and tagged. .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:18, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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Classical celebrity-is-Albanian. Z oupan 02:23, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Same kinds of targets and edits, same exclusive use of phones to edit. Please block. Thanks, GABgab 03:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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Duck quacking. Repeatedly adding unsourced Albanian heritage to André Silva (footballer) using phone to edit. Struway2 (talk) 21:08, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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Notified users per WP:COURTESY --SuperJew (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It is not required to notify users and often discouraged. If the filer doesn't do so, I wouldn't step in. It has nothing to do with "courtesy".--Bbb23 (talk) 23:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not? How is a user meant to defend themselves if they're not even aware of an investigation regarding them? --SuperJew (talk) 05:49, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Are the police required to tell you if they're investigating you? Telling someone they're under investigation is likely to send them into hiding, something that these sockpuppets are pass masters at, so it's better not to inform them until the evidence has been gathered. – PeeJay 13:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * The behavioral evidence is compelling, and on that basis, I have blocked Ksamil8 indefinitely and the IP for 31 hours. There are subtle differences in the behavior of this account: namely, the edits indicate that the user is unfamiliar with how to use  tags for references, but the prior sockpuppet accounts do demonstrate knowledge of how to add proper references. On the other hand, it's been a while since the last sockpuppet was identified – perhaps they simply forgot. In any case, the persistent addition of pro-Albanian material to a football-related article using Mobilefrontend is idiosyncratic enough for me to block on the basis of sock puppetry. Mz7 (talk) 03:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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Compare with  and.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  19:30, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Endorsing my own request.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  19:30, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * .  AGK  &#9632;   20:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)