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Billy (currently indef blocked for BLP violations and failure to communicate) and Dragonman270 both have the same type of interest in Australian TV (creating unsourced articles about non-notable TV shows) and have edited the too many of the same articles for it to be a coincidence, according to the Editor Interaction Analyzer that SPI uses. This includes at least one article that one of them created and the other later edited. They also have the same tendency not to communicate and have both made no edits to any talk pages (except the "Gadget definition talk" namespace), according to the Supercount tool. Both even have very similar pie charts in that tool. The thing I noticed connecting Billy and Kosi Onochie is the unblock rationale provided by Billy and its striking similarity to the one on Kosi Onochie's talk page. Please note that Kosi apparently already has an SPI casefile. As Billy is the older of the two accounts, that casefile may have to be merged to this one. I've requested CU to confirm the connection between Dragonman and Billy. CU data has expired for Kosi, but I believe the behavioral evidence (the unblock rationale on both Billy's and Kosi's talk pages) is enough to connect them both and, as a result, connect all three together. The CU should also be done to check for sleepers.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 02:50, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I took a second look at Kosi's contribs, including some contribs of their socks. The similar block notice I mentioned before appears to be the only thing connecting them.  According to SPI's Editor Interaction Tool, they have edited very few of the same pages. Also, Billy seems to be interested in Australian TV, whereas Kosi seems interested in Cartoon Network.  For the sake of record-keeping, I will mention that I found two very interesting diffs.  The first one was likely an IP sock of Kosi, according to the reverting admin, according to the admin that reverted them. The second one was Billy. They are about five or six months apart.  In the first one Kosi makes a large edit to the page.  This is reverted by an admin.  A few months later, Billy reverts the page from a version similar to the one Kosi created to one similar to the one the just before Kosi edited the page, the one the admin reverted to.  This is not an accusation against the admin.  Just a curious observation of Kosi and Billy's connection.  Anyway, barring any more evidence, I no longer believe the two are connected.  I think this case can be closed.  —   Gestrid  ( talk ) 05:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Katietalk 13:43, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Dragonman270 and Billy Liakopoulos are ✅ to each other. to determine if they are Kosi Onochie socks or are unrelated. Blocked without tags. Katietalk 13:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Confirmed accounts tagged, case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  07:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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Previously blocked as a sockpuppet of the user. IP has picked up where it left off. Gareth (talk) 19:38, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked by . Closing. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 03:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, it looks like it was actually Berean Hunter this time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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Billy Liakopoulos has been known to use sockpuppets. There are some significant similarities between Billy's style of editing and that of this account. Like Billy, this account edits almost exclusively about television topics. This user's edits mostly concern reality television, the Survivor franchise in particular. Like Billy, edits tend to be small - often changing fewer than 100 characters - and edit summaries are very rare. One rare edit that did include a summary demonstrates a tolerance of the same sort of trivial shit Billy has added. Comparing the edits of both users shows some crossover, albeit with emphasis of different articles. This editor created Template:Australian Survivor with their fifth edit, an unlikely course of action for a new user.

Another similarity is the failure to communicate, as noted here. The user's two posts in that thread are their only posts to the Talk or User talk namespaces. Repeated requests on the user's talk page encouraging the inclusion of edit summaries have been ignored. Also note the similarity with the username of blockedpuppet User:Dragonman270. Gareth (talk) 22:48, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * I'm closing this case with no action due to lack of evidence. Helloman124 will occasionally leave an edit summary (ex) whereas I don't believe the sockmaster once used an edit summary. Helloman124 also has a much better command of English than Billy ( vs ). And like you say above, comparing the edits of both users shows emphasis of different articles. Sro23 (talk) 04:11, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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IP editors with the same editing style as Billy - small edits that rarely make substantial/any changes to the prose, failure to leave an edit summary, failure to respond to talk page postings or to change behaviour.

These two edits indicate that the IPs are probably related to each other:


 * Edit from 12 October by
 * Edit from 31 July by

Other active IPs with similar style:
 * possible - less emphasis on television
 * possible - less emphasis on television
 * possible - less emphasis on television
 * possible - less emphasis on television

Other suspected sockpuppets where the IP has probably gone stale:

Note that every single one of these IPs has edited Family Feud (2014 Australian game show) in the last few months. Gareth (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

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 * With that kind of vague criteria, there must be a thousand more active IP's with the same editing style as Billy. This case has been open for too long anyway so I'm closing. Sro23 (talk) 04:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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Similar editing style to the indefinitely blocked User:Billy Liakopoulos account, which take the form of reletively short, small edits without edit summaries or any attempts to communicate with other editors, across largely Australian-related articles. Most tellingly, the new account has created a subpage User:Billycleaner/interesting which links to these   diffs concerning the blocks associated with the blocked editor, which suggests a link of some kind to the account which shares a similar name. As the user was blocked for using multiple accounts, it appears feasible to me that Billycleaner is yet another sock, and if Checkuser confirms this, should be blocked as well. -- Whats new?(talk) 06:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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I have had to revert a lot of edits by Billycleaner. The account appears to consistently edit articles back to a previous state, removing recent minor edits for no good reason. Australian-related television and radio articles are mostly affected. My contrib history shows the extent of the reverts. The user's talk page has an interesting comment from an unsigned user. -- Smacca | Talk | Contrib 16:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  12:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * "if Checkuser confirms this" - it appears that the previous accounts involved are all stale, so I am not sure what CU would be able to accomplish in terms of making a link to Billy. With that said User:Billycleaner/interesting, is indeed interesting. What do you think ? -- The SandDoctor Talk 09:21, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ to each other:
 * I don't think that declaring retirement and then making undeclared alternates is valid.
 * I don't think that declaring retirement and then making undeclared alternates is valid.
 * I don't think that declaring retirement and then making undeclared alternates is valid.
 * I don't think that declaring retirement and then making undeclared alternates is valid.
 * I don't think that declaring retirement and then making undeclared alternates is valid.
 * What would you recommend? Does this case need to be moved or is it okay where it is? Also, should these accounts be blocked? I noticed that you did not? -- The SandDoctor Talk 01:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't need to be moved. should explain in the "Comments by other users" section above. The Soluopokail Yllib account will certainly be blocked before this is over...naming an account in the reverse of a sock's name is bound to cause suspicions so this falls into the what were you thinking? category. WP:VALIDALT wasn't followed either.
 * I've left a note on Billycleaner's talk page, though something tells me it will go ignored. Sro23 (talk) 03:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Anything else to do here? Thanks, GABgab 14:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * GAB, you can close this report as I have filed Sockpuppet investigations/Gareth. He is vandalizing while logged out now.