Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Blackmagic1234/Archive

Report date May 7 2009, 11:51 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Kagome 77 (talk)

I had an incident on May 3rd, 2009 where I was accused of having multiple accounts on Wikipedia to make vandalism edits with. The person that accused me went through the edit history of two articles, Kathleen (given name) and Ruby Gloom. I did not vandalize either of these articles, I am the main editor for the ruby Gloom article, and the only piece of vandalism that the user brought up to me about that article was when it was vandalized back in September with an unregistered user, it came from an IP address. The IP address came from Newfoundland, and I live in Newfoundland, but so do many other people that watch Ruby Gloom on the TV Station YTV, since YTV broadcasts throughout Canada. Like I said before on the incident board on May 3rd, just because many people know about a show such as Ruby Gloom, does not mean that they all like it. There are many people that know about Barney & Friends, but, as you can see, that article is protected due to the heavy amount of vandalism in it. Also, you had to go back two pages just to find that piece of vandalism. The reason I suspect that blackmagic1234 is the user Higgys is because he claimed to know my IP address and where I live(he said he knew I lived in St. John's, Newfoundland, and said he knew what my home address was). Also, if you look at Blackmagic1234's userpage, you will see that he says that he resides in St. John's, Newfoundland. The user account "Higgys" was created on May 3rd, and the only edits that were made were edits of harassment. Another reason I suspect that Blackmagic1234 is the user Higgys is that he claimed to know my IP address, however, I only make edits from my user account (I always log in when I am going to make edits to an article). From what I was told by the administrators, users that are not administrators cannot get your IP address if you edit articles from your user account. Since neither of the two accounts Blackmagic1234 and Higgys are administrator accounts, I suspect that Higgys is a sockpuppet of Blackmagic1234. Finally, the main reason I suspect that Blackmagic1234 is Higgys is that I know him in real life,and that is all I am going to say.Kagome 77 (talk) 11:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Well, Higgys account was blocked for harassment. How did Blackmagic1234 claim to know your IP address? I don't see any edits on wikipedia from Blackmagic1234 that mention your IP. I don't think there is enough substantial evidence to suggest they may be the same user. If you could elaborate and give specific examples it might help. Icestorm815 •  Talk  23:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Blackmagic1234 knows me in real life, and just because he never made vandalism from his main account does not mean that he did not do it. The fact that he claimed that he knew that I lived in St. John's, Newfoundland, and went so far back in the edits of the Ruby Gloom article to accuse me of making a vandalism edit to that article makes me suspicious that it was him. Also, he accused me of making vandalism edits to the Kathleen (given name) article, because he knows that I know someone named Kathleen in real life that I don't get along with. However, I would not vandalize an article just because I don't like someone I know in real life. The main reason I am suspicious that it was him is because he went to my main user account and accused me of having these side accounts of making vandalism edits, and said that he knew I lived in St. John's, Newfoundland, and my home address, however, I was told that only administrators can see your IP address when you use a user account with a username, such as the one I have. This is the edit I was accused of making to the Ruby Gloom article: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ruby_Gloom&diff=prev&oldid=239125919 The edit came from the IP address 142.162.64.146. That IP address is located in Newfoundland, but I have no affiliation with that address. Like I said before, there are many people in Newfoundland that watch/know about the TV show Ruby Gloom, and not everyone that knows about the TV show likes it, which is why someone would make vandalism edits to the article, just like what has been done many times to the article Barney & Friends. Many people know about that show, but not everyone that goes on that article goes on there to make constructive edits. There are many people that go on articles just to vandalize them, but I'm not one of those people. Also, regarding the edits made to the Kathleen (given name) article. I did not make those edits, and, if the user that harassed me that claimed they knew I was all the usernames that vandalized that article by my IP address(and somehow got my IP address on here from my username), and the IP address matched the users that vandalized that article, then I just have to say that it is not me. I am not stupid or foolish enough to make an account just to vandalize an article, as I am aware that administrators can track down the original account that has accounts associated with it(even if the original account is not a vandalism account), by finding the IP address and looking at all activity made on Wikipedia(including creating accounts and making edits from those accounts). Also, I spoke with Blackmagic1234 (I know him in real life, and I never spoke to him on here about this), and he would not answer my question on whether or not he was the user Higgys. After I told him about the vandalism I was accused of making to the Ruby Gloom article, he began editing the article, putting in the books that he owns. I know that the fact that he began editing the article after this happened does not mean that he is the user Higgys, but I just felt that I should point that out. Also, it would not be a waste of time to check to see if he is the user Higgys, as I'm sure that there have been users in the past accused of sockpuppetry that have been checked and proven that they were not the users they were accused of being. Kagome 77 (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * I still don't see reasonable cause to perform a check. Icestorm815  •  Talk  20:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm also not seeing much in the way of evidence connecting Blackmagic to the Higgys account. If you come up with evidence in the form of diffs, please refile the case and request CU. Nathan  T (formerly Avruch) 20:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)