Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bobe8q8661/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
TriMain https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Draft%3AYippee+%28noodles%29&timestamp=20220505050223&diff=prev tagged] Draft:Yippee (noodles) for G7 deletion. Three minutes later, Bobe made a dummy edit to the page. After declined the G7 because it had not been placed by the page creator, Bobe re-tagged. I deleted, but asked Bobe (permalink) if they had a connection to TriMain. They said that TriMain is a relative of theirs, that their overlap with TriMain on this page and elsewhere is a result of them teaching TriMain how to edit, and that they had asked TriMain to place the G7 tag. TriMain created Draft:Yippee (noodle), Bobe says because they told him to read and re-create your "own" draft of same topic/name if he "wants"; however, the drafts are substantially identical. Upon realizing this, I reverted the G7 deletion, as G7 applies only to good-faith requests, and this is an apparent attempt to game the AfC system by obscuring a previous decline and a history of copyvio.

I don't think this is UPE, since there's negative content in the draft. It's something, though, and I don't think it's one cousin helping another learn to edit. shows TriMain clarifying the source of an image Bobe uploaded. At, TriMain adds content that Bobe had previously added and been reverted on. Often with this level of side-by-side overlap you get people who aren't even trying to deceive, but Bobe insists they're different people, so here we are.

Bobe says that they don't share an address, so a CU should likely settle this. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 07:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 07:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I've re-deleted the drafts after resolving the AfC gaming angle, but my socking concerns stand. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 08:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ +  Salvio 09:12, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Salvio. A full consideration of the facts leaves open a very slight possibility that Bobe and TriMain are telling the truth. An impressionable new user, who copies his more experienced relative's username style and style of writing (see their recent exchange with me: shared distinctive "sir/mam", shared "please reply" even when not asking for a reply, also @ ), and follows that relative to pages he's pointed to and edit-wars there without knowing what he's doing wrong, all while both editing from some shared location away from one or both's home... there is some minuscule chance of that being the case. But WP:MEAT states: A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining. Given that TriMain has on at least two occasions edit-warred alongside Bobe, and that both have edited pages side-by-side while some edits were being reverted, skewing WP:EDITCONSENSUS   , as well as the recent attempt to game AfC scrutiny, I think that even in the unlikely event that this is not sockpuppetry, it would be blockable meatpuppetry. The only reason the distinction matters at all is determining the sanction: If this is sockpuppetry, an indef is merited for the deception. If it is not, tempblocks would be in order. Given all of the evidence I've presented so far, I judge true socking to be much more likely, and am indeffing both accordingly. Blocking Ryan as well based on username similarity and timing (created 37 min. after TriMai's most recent edit)—facts which further tip the balance toward true socking. .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 09:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
appears to be another sock of this master, per their edits to Bhoot and Friends, 9XM, Tum Bin, Time travel claims and urban legends and has the same inclination to edit war excessively. PRAXIDICAE💕 13:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Blocked and tagged. -- ferret (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Closing. Spicy (talk) 18:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
See Yippee (noodles) recreation, same username style as Ian Tin (Three Letters, camel case) PRAXIDICAE🌈 14:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ -- ferret (talk) 14:29, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Filing pro-forma after blocking - large overlap across very obscure subjects in a comparatively small amount of edits. In addition there is a common interest in borderline/non-notable murders between this account and previous socks (compare previous sock's creations with Murder_of_Lindy_Sue_Biechler). firefly ( t · c ) 16:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * Pro-forma filing. Already blocked, closing. firefly  ( t · c ) 16:31, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Confirmed to and also sleeper . -- ferret (talk) 16:48, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly ferret :) firefly  ( t · c ) 16:49, 26 August 2022 (UTC)