Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bothand/Archive

13 August 2011

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Both accounts edit only one article, Christian-New Age dialogue, which was originally moved from Bothan's user space and which is the username of the other account. Seems WP:DUCKy to me (if they're not sockpuppets, it's likely to be meatpuppetry instead). Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 22:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * This appears to be a case of new users not understanding policy, and getting bitten as a result. -- 202.124.74.156 (talk) 00:23, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I hope I am entering my comments in the correct area. I have used Christian-New Age Dialogue and Bothand. Please allow me to explain. I doubt there has been a violation and certainly there has been no intentional violation. I did not open the account Bothand. But the person who did lacks technical knowledge for online communication. Original her article was under Bothand. And she gave the user name and password to me on one other person so that we could assist with any online difficulties she had along the way. When we saw that it would be far better were the article under a name more akin to the content of the piece, I opened the account Christian-New Age Dialogue and moved the article there (with her permission). She and someone else also have Christian-New Age Dialogue's password. I am not experienced with Wikipedia, but I do try to learn and believe we've done wonderfully with posting the piece. Note that the comments made today by Bothan and Christian-New Age Dialogue were quite different in nature. One was an opposition to deletion and the other was a concern about procedure. When I (Christian-New Age Dialogue) saw the deletion notice for the first time today, I did what was asked (improved upon the material by adding a clarifying paragraph).

Please read the nature of the original request for deletion: "Unclear what the subject of this even is, reads more like a religious pamphlet than anything." That's sheer opinion and I would beg more of you to actually read the piece to discern for yourself if this is true. The person who wrote this carefully researched both sides of Christian and New Age opinion, quotes reputable sources (see the reference list), and discusses the progress that has been made in establishing viable dialog between Christians and New Agers. In this day and age where religions of all sorts seem to be bumping heads with each other, I believe her piece to be a very valuable, educated, and neutral statement that may be strong resource for researchers in the ecumenical field.

Certainly if there is a question of sockpuppetry -- something I just heard of a few minutes ago -- I speak to the others who have the passwords to Bothand and Christian-New Age Dialogue and tell them there may be a violation and that the passwords are to be changed so that only one person can use those accounts. Do I understand this correctly and should I proceed to make sure both accounts are used very distinctly by one party each respectively? Certainly we really want to do the right thing. I'm not sure I know how to sign, but my best contact email address is cnaq@aol.com. Christian-New Age Dialogue (talk) 23:53, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Christian-New Age Dialogue


 * Generally the rule is one person, one account. See WP:NOSHARING and WP:MULTIPLE. Revealing your personal email address is also a bad idea for all kinds of reasons; communication between editors should happen on "talk pages". -- 202.124.75.91 (talk) 01:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * Just as the IP said, generally speaking, it's one person, one account. That both accounts have been used by multiple people is alarming. I've listed Christian-New Age Dialogue as a potential username violation, but we'll see how that comes back. In the meantime, absolutely only one person should be editing from each, so tell whoever you have to to change the passwords. I'm closing for now, but please relist if the activity continues. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)