Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brihaspati/Archive

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TSAray continued to petition for the removal or minimization of unfavorable content on after Brihaspati was indefinitely blocked for undisclosed paid editing related to Swarajya. The timeline is as follows: On their user page, TSAray claims that they "come from the UK", but they have exclusively edited articles in the Indian topic area so far. TSAray also claims to be a native speaker of English and have level 3 proficiency in the Gujarati language. For comparison, (the former account name of Brihaspati) claimed to be a native (level 5) speaker of Gujarati and have level 3 proficiency in English on their user page prior to requesting its deletion. —  Newslinger  talk   22:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * 20 April: Brihaspati makes a series of edits on (Special:Diff/951989985, Special:Diff/952026722) and Swarajya (magazine) (Special:Diff/952026722).
 * 08:27, 24 April: Brihaspati is indefinitely blocked for undisclosed paid editing.
 * 24–25 April: Discussion regarding the block takes place on User talk:Brihaspati. Brihaspati submits two unblock requests, which are declined.
 * 26 April–14 May: Brihaspati is inactive on all Wikimedia projects.
 * 17:20, 15 May–08:17, 19 May: Brihaspati makes a series of edits on the Gujarati Wikipedia.
 * 11:23, 19 May: TSAray account is created.
 * 11:40–11:56, 19 May: TSAray creates their user page (Special:Permalink/957551455) and their sandbox page (Special:Permalink/957549814) in their first six edits.
 * 19:38, 22 May: TSAray establishes first contact on User talk:Nizil Shah, the user talk page that Brihaspati edited more than any other user talk page (besides their own).
 * 04:08, 23 May: Brihaspati submits a third unblock request, which is declined.
 * 10:48, 23 May–11:55, 24 May: TSAray continues the discussion at right where Brihaspati left it, proposing changes that would remove or reduce the prominence of unfavorable content on Swarajya (magazine).
 * Both accounts have removed positive content from the article on Ram Puniyani (Special:Diff/958996231 vs. Special:Diff/913067602/918830526), a niche topic. Additionally, TSAray has proposed the minimization of criticism in the Hindutva article (Special:Diff/959000517) while Brihaspati/Harshil169 has done the same for articles on Hindutva's proponents (e.g. Special:Diff/935081992 for Anjana Om Kashyap, Special:Diff/934734570 for Arnab Goswami, and for OpIndia). —  Newslinger   talk   13:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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I would like to defend myself from this accusation by simply saying that I happened to agree with the comments made by the previous user. Furthermore, my comments at Nizil Shah's page were the following "Hi Nizil, I am TSAray and I want to thank you for all the articles you have written regarding Gujarati History, People and Society. I have been editing 1 please let me know if the changes I have made are fine and if you have any suggestions for the future." They relate to an article I had been editing for the first time and I had wanted to thank them for updating a large number of articles. In addition, I am British however, I am interested in India which is why many of my edits have related to Indian topics.TSAray (talk) 22:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear user:Bradv, I am not using a VPN. When I had my VPN turned on by accident, I was blocked temporarily. Hence, when I use Wikipedia, I always keep my VPN off. Furthermore, when you say 'it is likely' that I am using a VPN what is that based on? Do let me know if there is any other way I can prove that I have no connection to the banned user. Thanks, TSAray (talk) 08:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It seems that User:बृहस्पति is the sockpuppet account of User:Brihaspati. बृहस्पति is the Hindi spelling for Brihaspati. It is mentioned on the previous user name of Brihaspati (User:Harshil169, now deleted) that he was a student of Civil emgneer.बृहस्पति also edits Civil engineering related pages. Like TSAray, he also post on User:Nizil Shah's talk page. And strikingly, he also behave aggrrsivly like Harshil169 (Brihaspati) on the talk page of User:Seraphimblade. 2409:4041:2697:4293:400C:DB3B:739A:CB11 (talk) 16:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Bṛhaspati is very famous in Hindu mythology, It matches with other user then It may be just a coincidence. I am not a civil engineer graduate.बृहस्पति (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear user:Newslinger just because I made an edit on a page that Brihaspati may have edited doesn't mean much. Ram Puniyani has a well followed Youtube channel with almost 270k followers, so it is likely that someone interested in Indian history such as myself would come across it, and hence his Wikipedia page. Also Wikipedia is not here for positive or negative content, it is to provide accurate information on a subject using reliable secondary sources. I made a number of changes on Ram Puniyani's page to remove information which was not in line with content guidelines and lacked any sources. I also reject the accusation that I have tried to minimise criticism of the Hindutva article; contributing to Wikipedia to create a neutral point of view is completely different. I think that in this witchhunt your biases are coming across, given that you seem to judge contributions based on positive/negative or pro-Hindutva/anti-Hindutva instead of allowing me to follow Wikipedia's content guidelines. TSAray (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
 
 * The technical evidence is, but that is likely because TSAray is using some sort of webhost or VPN to edit. This will have to be looked at based upon behaviour. – bradv  🍁  01:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have directly asked TSAray whether they are being paid to edit, but the evidence available to me does not convince me that sockpuppetry is happening here. Closing without further action. creffett (talk) 13:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC) creffett (talk) 13:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)