Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brotherblog/Archive

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A lengthy number of unsubstantiated ad hominin attacks were made against myself by the user 'Josibald' at the talk page of the politician Talk:Shahid Malik after I made some minor changes removing irrelevant information.

After addressing the attacks, a second user named 'Brotherblog' replied to my comment, with the claim that the original ad hominin attack was written by themselves. The initial commenter Josibald signed the unsubstantiated attack comment, but the user Brotherblog stated "I stand by my criticism and do not wish to go into countering everything you have said at this stage... those that are interested can read my comments, your response...". As I had not replied to Brotherblog, I suspect that this is a sockpuppet account.

Furthermore, the user Brotherblog's account has been used primarily to remove any negative criticism from the Shahid Malik article since 2013. Little other articles are touched and those which are link back to Malik's political career. A particular example is the user regularly pastes the text "[insert name] is regularly voted as one of the top five sexiest male MPs in the United Kingdom Parliament. In the Sky News poll, which annually conducts its poll of the 650 Members of Parliament, he regularly tops the poll as the sexiest Conservative MP" on pages /  which link back to Malik. The user and vehemently defends the removal of this claim, despite the source being weak.

In comparison, the account Josibald was made only days after my first edit to the Malik article, and has only been used purely to add information to the Malik article, Malik's peers and Malik's constituency.

Finally, both Josibald and Brotherblog use similar insults (claims of vandalism and racism) towards my person in the edit summary section.

This suspicious activity further leads me to suspect both Brotherblog and Josibald may be Mailk editing his own article. MrEarlGray (talk) 15:02, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Additional information: Reading the talk page of Shahid Malik one can see a previously banned sockpuppet /u/Truesayer has made insults of of an extremely similar tone and language in both discussions and edit summaries (ignored my recent edits to white individuals and instead stated I have an "unhealthy focus on black and Muslim focused articles") towards Shakehandsman. Both users are extremely hostile towards the removal of any information not painting the subject in a positive light and have an emphasis on establishing Malik as the 'first / only', etc... Given the similarity in accusations, it may be possible /u/Josibald and /u/Brotherblog are yet another sockpuppet of /u/Truesayer. MrEarlGray (talk) 11:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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I was the editor who reported all the various sockpuppetry and other rule breaking on this article some years ago, all the relevant Sockpuppet cases are here: Sockpuppet investigations/Truesayer/Archive. These additional editors look similar to the previous socks, particularly in terms of the way they behave.--Shakehandsman (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The last known Truesayer socks were 10 years ago. It's not impossible that they're back, but that's a long time ago and there's a lot in the archives to slog through.  If you could point out some specific diffs from both known Truesayer socks and the accounts from this investigation, that would be very useful. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - There's a lot in the style of writing common to Brotherblog and Josibald. What really convinced me was that 2018-10-03 was not only the first day in three years that Brotherblog was active, but also the day the Josibald account was created, and then neither of them edited for a bit over a year.  On the other hand, their timecards don't look like the same person at all.  Could be the same person, maybe editing using one account at work and the other at home.  Or could be different people responding to the same off-wiki trigger. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * PS, I have no clue how this relates to Truesayer, which is long long since stale. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌, and the checkuser geolocation evidence shows this is not a case of the same person using one account at work and another at home. --Yamla (talk) 12:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing with no action taken. If personal attacks continue, the accounts can be blocked for that; you could request this at WP:ANI, or ping me directly.  If you feel uncomfortable pinging me on-wiki, feel free to send me private email using Special:EmailUser/RoySmith or the "Email this user" link in the navbar.   -- RoySmith (talk) 14:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)