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Similar unique usernames. Both accounts have made edits in the same topic area, and nowhere on the rest of Wikipedia. The sockpuppet started editing after the sockmaster was indefinitely blocked. Idell (talk) 06:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Per, the master created the new account "Due to problem in previous one...". —&#8205;Mdaniels5757 (talk &bull; contribs) 14:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 15:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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Creation of List of programs broadcast by Hum Pashto 1 after it was deleted per WP:G5. Also has been editing in the same editing area. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:41, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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. This account was dormant from the 31st of August till the 7th of September. Their previous sockpuppet was blocked a day earlier on the 6th. Therefore this is a dormant account, and there might be more of them. to find any other of these sleepers. I've the sock already. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything on the recently blocked range involved is already blocked. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 08:30, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * in the archives, you wrote, "Blocked without tags". Does that still make sense given the current sock activity? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delayed response. It is really up to whomever blocks at that time (and others, to be honest). WP:DENY could be applied and result in no tags or they could be tagged. Your call. -- The SandDoctor Talk 03:36, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Reblocking/tagging Bttowadch as sockmaster. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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Similar topic areas to the previous accounts, this one popped up on my radar because they recreated Mera Raqeeb after it was WP:G5d a month ago. Both accounts also use similar generic edit summaries and seem to mostly edit from the mobile site. WP:DUCK? Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * . . Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing left to do here, closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Making similar edits. Will do further review now. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * Seems WP:DUCKy. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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Account was created shortly after prior sock was created and has significant overlap. Similar edits by B, by A. by B, by A. by B, by A, especially the edits to lead use the exact text.  Ravensfire  (talk) 19:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * -- RoySmith (talk) 19:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Making similar edits. Reverting other editors reverting older socks. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Pro forma. Blocked 1 month. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Brand new user, removed CSD G5 tag from 3 articles created by prior sock.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * -- RoySmith (talk) 13:49, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Re-creation of Draft:Mere Kuhwabon Ka Diya, which is similar to previous deleted versions. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Pro forma. Seems WP:DUCKy. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Maa Sadqey this page was recently created by Dramanrama but after that this user is blocked due to Sock of Pakistanpedia, After more then one year some another user wakeup and creted the same page in just single edit. <b style="color:Red">Cute</b><b style="color:Orange">Meow</b> ( talk ) 11:42, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Case merged into the pre-existing case page for this sockmaster Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * .  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Based on the CU results and also based on behavioral similarities on that article, I'm going to block. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:21, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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Restored edits made by prior sock   Ravensfire  (talk) 20:58, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Seems WP:DUCKy. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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Very similar edits to Dulhan (TV series), see and, especially the controversy section. Similar edit summaries - "References", nearly always starting with capital letter  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz - yup, pure typo on my part. Thank you for spotting and moving!  Ravensfire  (talk) 04:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * that two prolific masters have been confused for each others wouldn't surprise me at all, there's a lot of overlap between those two. Bttowadch is very likely one of these two, not sure enough about which one though.  I'll get those diffs for you sometime this evening.  Ravensfire  (talk) 22:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow. I've been dealing with a home emergency involving a washing machine and unapproved discharged of water, so I haven't gotten to this all that much.  The little I had done was pushing me more and more that DT wasn't a sock of Pakistanipedia or Drama just based on edit-summary usage and grammar. I was convinced that BT was a sock of someone, Bttowadch would have been next up.  Thank you for your time on this.  Ravensfire  (talk) 01:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Moved from Sockpuppet investigations/Pakistanpedia) as seemingly a mistake in the title. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * - Not enough here to block on behavior alone, but and  from the archives look good for comparison. , there's a lot to slog through in the history; if you could provide some additional specific pairs of diffs, that would be useful to guide the archeology. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would not be shocked if we've got two different sock drawers intermixed in this case. Looking at some of the time cards, Dramanrama and Pakistanpedia have quite distinctive patterns.  The others are more all over the place. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey there, there is a possibility of overlap with, based on the general shape of some of their edits and intersections with others. Like AbdulaMuhammad36 and AhmadMuhammad1 are ducky in name and have both edited here. The latter was blocked as Bttowadch sock. These are all starting to feel like trying to figure out which dog shat on which part of the rug. I mean both turds look and smell about the same... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * To be clear, none of this should be connected to Pakistanpedia. I went back and reviewed the case that merged this and Pakistanpedia & Dramanrama was stale at the time of checking. While a login may have been possible to have been found in CU, I highly doubt that is the case as no such data exists today. Even the CU log from previous Pakistanpedia checks show a different part of the country. as the CU that ran this. So a clerk needs to move this all over to Bttowadch. AbdulaMuhammad36 & Jeevanfire need to be disassociated from this archive as well. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping as you two figured this out before I got to it. Wanted to follow up with what is what for you. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Much appreciated. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * To be clear, none of this should be connected to Pakistanpedia. I went back and reviewed the case that merged this and Pakistanpedia & Dramanrama was stale at the time of checking. While a login may have been possible to have been found in CU, I highly doubt that is the case as no such data exists today. Even the CU log from previous Pakistanpedia checks show a different part of the country. as the CU that ran this. So a clerk needs to move this all over to Bttowadch. AbdulaMuhammad36 & Jeevanfire need to be disassociated from this archive as well. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping as you two figured this out before I got to it. Wanted to follow up with what is what for you. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Much appreciated. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * To be clear, none of this should be connected to Pakistanpedia. I went back and reviewed the case that merged this and Pakistanpedia & Dramanrama was stale at the time of checking. While a login may have been possible to have been found in CU, I highly doubt that is the case as no such data exists today. Even the CU log from previous Pakistanpedia checks show a different part of the country. as the CU that ran this. So a clerk needs to move this all over to Bttowadch. AbdulaMuhammad36 & Jeevanfire need to be disassociated from this archive as well. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping as you two figured this out before I got to it. Wanted to follow up with what is what for you. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 00:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Much appreciated. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Reports since 11 November 2020 split and merged from Pakistanpedia to Bttowadch. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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(Note: I've combined two reports from the same day for easier processing. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC))

Removal of G5 tags from other puppet articles, here, here, and here.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

New user created the same day another sock, DreamyTelenor was blocked (8 hours later). Same area of interest, see this. Even removed a G5 tag off the other sock's article, see here.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 13:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Nothing left to do, closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Created after prior socks blocked, lots of edits in a short time related to Pakistani television, the usual area. Edits show high familiarity with wikicode[1], and many of the articles they've hit have edits from prior Btt socks.

Added or expanded International Broadcast sections using country flags, compare to ,  from prior socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 05:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * - It's certainly possible, but in the diffs presented, the new guy uses UK, Ind, etc while the previous socks use flag.  Fortunately, there's plenty of non-stale socks in the archive to compare with. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * One thing I wrote on Ravensfire's talk page while I was verbalising my thought process about one of the socks:
 * "I noticed in the Bttowadch there was some indication he was into International broadcast details, including with flagicons, and I see some of that with this guy, who seems to show up in lots of articles both Pakistanpedia and Btt both edit. But this new guy is also not internally consistent, like here the style of International broadcast is different.
 * So I think they are deliberately using slightly different editing techniques to throw off their scent. In some cases he might use one flag template, in another case he might use another, and in some cases he'll just do bulleted lists with no icons. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:04, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Bagged and tagged.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:48, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Created shortly after prior sock was blocked. Edit here recreated table created by prior socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 20:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * IP's are WP:DUCK socks - vs
 * I was wondering about HassanEsani, glad to know sometimes my gut instincts are right. Thanks, Mz7!  Ravensfire  (talk) 00:27, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅ plus ., although I will say that because of the dynamic natures of those IPs, even if they were Bttowadch, blocking them now would probably be ineffective due to staleness. Both accounts , closing. Mz7 (talk) 23:12, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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Created after previous socks were blocked; removed CSD-Tags from Mohabbatain Chahatain, a page created by. --TheImaCow (talk) 11:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Duck based on behaviour. Blocked, tagged, closing. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  15:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Same edit as previous sock, many edits to articles editing by prior socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. Thanks per usual, . Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Similar articles and edit summaries to previous socks. Activity started within 8 hours of previous sock block. Made edits to List of programs broadcast by Hum TV, List of programs broadcast by ARY Digital, etc., immediately after the sock edits were reverted. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 06:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

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They also created Raqeeb Se under Raqeeb se to game the page watchers. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 06:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Recreated Mohabbatain Chahatain (TV series) which is a different spelling of Mohabbatain Chahatain created by prior sock. Obvious sock.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Indeffed. Articles deleted. Thanks everybody. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:54, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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Brand-new account made on Jan 9 2021, 1 day after the previous sock was blocked, similar-sounding username, and recreating Pehli Si Muhabbat. Steve M (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Nothing really specific, but they have similar phrases in the same foreign language. Actually, scrap that, as it is confusing. The real evidence, is the account creation date and the re-creation of articles. Steve M (talk) 22:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Hi there, can you please clarify what user name is similar to this newly-reported user's name? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * . Same country, different geolocations and user agents. This will need a behavioral investigation...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sock blocked and tagged. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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Account created right after block of previous sock, second edit is to remove G5 tag on Pehli Si Muhabbat, and edits the same type of articles. DUCK? Steve M (talk) 20:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * I'm beginning to suspect this is a paid editing ring rather than the same person. They are all in the same country but have different locations and computer info. Can this be a group paid to promote certain people? What is the essence of this user? What does this user do with socks that is against the rules other than evading blocks? How did they originally get blocked? Steve M (talk) 21:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Steve M - It's possible they might be, but the problem is... if they're using their own workstations and IP addresses to do this, it's not going to be easy to confirm with technical evidence. That's why checkuser results don't supersede behavioral evidence and the duck test. If it quacks, it quacks. ;-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

There's this sequence of edits by another sock of the puppeteer, user:Aapka Aana DilDharkana, which while not exactly a match with this edit by the new puppet, is pretty darn close. And then there's this edit by the other sock, which is an exact edit of the sock's. And then there's the edit similarity comparison between the two socks. Add to that the fact that the newest sock was created very shortly after the latest sock's block...  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 21:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Same country, but different areas and geolocations. Also different user agents.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * To answer your question, Bttowadch was originally hit with a CU block for abusing multiple accounts. Using multiple accounts to enagae in UPE would qualify as a violation of our sockpuppetry policy. And yes, a lot of the times these accounts bleed together and are sometimes dissimilar enough to cause some pause, but they edit the same stuff and are almost certainly connected. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Blocked as suspected member of this meat farm. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Duck! <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 12:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The first edit of Parey Hut love is to remove a G5 tag on one of the articles Bttowadch edits. Steve M (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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How does this guy have so many socks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve M (talk • contribs) 12:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Would an LTA page be appropriate or inappropriate in this case? This farm aren't trolls doing this for negative attention, so WP:DENY doesn't apply here. In fact, no person being promoted would want to be associated with someone with an LTA page. They can also be sneaky, like use many accounts to remove tags and recreate articles under other names. 13:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve M (talk • contribs) 13:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no real opinion about the utility of an LTA page. And, editors, myself included, have found it difficult to distinguish Pakistanpedia from Bttowadch and Bttowadch from Patimarmeshwar, and so forth. I don't know if there is a real master, they all just blend together as one massive timesuck. So I'm not sure how an LTA page would address that. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. If we are able to find any difference though, then that would strengthen the case for an LTA page, as that would give the much-needed information. Maybe we should call comeone that is very good at SPI to investigate these farms and alleged socks? SPI is a very complex process, and I am very limited in this field, as it involves a lot of uncertainty, guessing, and judgement, which are things that I am unable to do very effectively. Steve M (talk) 14:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Both blocked as suspected member of this meat farm. Pehli Si Muhabbat deleted. They're trying to do sneaky shit, like one of them removes the CSD tag, and the other makes a bunch of edits, presumably so if we mass revert the guy who does the bunch of edits, the CSD tag doesn't get put back up. Unless someone reverts the guy who deleted the CSD tag as well. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll also note that some of these accounts were submitted by here in an SPI for Patiparmeshwar, so we seem to be playing "I don't know who he's a sock of, but he's a sock of somebody!. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * since your last CU check was looking for socks of Bttowadch, is there any value looking to see if these reported socks are connected to Patiparmeshwar instead? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:54, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Cyphoidbomb - I'm not sure, but if there's evidence that shows that they may be related, create an SPI and I'll be happy to look. :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:48, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Nothing else to do here, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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Started edit after prior sock blocked. Their edit is substantially the same as  by prior sock. On another article, contains basically the same as  added by a prior sock.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Some similar use of unusual language in edit summaries.  uses "shifted" as the edit summary,  by prior sock as "Content shifted", other edits by prior socks also use shifted, unusual to see in this area.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Pretty likely based on previous investigations. Steve M (talk) 16:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Blocked and tagged. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:22, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Editing pages related to Pakistani TV industry. Made first edit on "Noman Ijaz" the next day of prior sock block, a few weeks after edited the same page. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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Can you please check this out? Steve M (talk) 04:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC) Comment They've also recreated Raqeeb Se which was created by a prior sock. Lots of overlap with prior socks and IP ranges.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Looks consistent with Bttowadch. I notice them here for instance, and at other targets. I'm also adding Hasilpur to the list and asking for CU, since they have several intersections at new articles. So either coordination or socking, as per usual. The cleanup this time could be difficult because they're monkeying around by logging out and using different ranges. For example this is an article created by Hasilpur, who appears to log-out, then make a change a few minutes after creating the article from Sindh, Pakistan IP from PTCL. Then, a few hours later, a Sindh, Pakistan IP  from Mobilink Mobile Internet makes a change. 2 hours later, Raqeebsay makes some changes. So it feels like they're using multiple identities and logging out to widen their chances of articles being retained. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Bagging and tagging socks. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:10, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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Sigh. Within 2 hours of tagging three of the puppeteer's articles for deletion, this sock appears, see this, this, and this.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 04:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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, Can you please take a look at this? Steve M (talk) 05:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Indeffed the skunkduck and deleted the articles. Also deleted Qudrat, which was a haven for their various puppets and logged-out entities. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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Duck. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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, can you please take a look? Steve M (talk) 16:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Hi there, thanks for the report. It would be helpful if in the future you could please include examples of how it is ducky, since I deal with many different problem editors and might forget this disruptive user's hallmarks, or another admin might be looking at this and would need more info. In this case, I tend to agree that it is ducky based on this edit where a prior sock opines about the show's critical response, and this edit where a similar opinion is added by Directway121. Also, there are several intersections with prior socks at other articles. Blocked. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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Recreation of Mera Naseeb that was G5 on 13 Feb 2021 and was also created on same day. Courtesy ping for help. Thank you. — Amkgp 💬  17:05, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Looks ducky to me. There are a number of intersections with Bttowadch socks including at weird places like Aangan (novel) and Artistic depictions of the partition of India. I also notice that a 111.28.* IP flutters around the Bttowadch edits. Saw some in the edit history of Mera Naseeb and Bano (novel). Might want to keep this in mind in addition to the 39.* IPs we've seen. Another interesting tidbit, the Dolly account account was created on 12 February, but wasn't used for about 25 hours after that. Could suggest other accounts have been created. Blocking user. Closing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Created 3 days after the last sock was blocked, within one minute of creation reverts edits on Rubya Chaudhry to a last version by a confirmed sock. I'm not familiar with the master, could have a look? Pahunkat (talk) 11:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. Closing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Account created within 10 hours of the second last sock being blocked and made the same edit following sock reversion. Same editing area. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * based on behavioral evidence. Thanks for reporting this. —  Newslinger  talk   23:38, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Give me a moment or two, there's at least one other account here.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅ to recently blocked Bttowadch accounts from the archive (e.g., , ):


 * ...and that's all I see (other than some logged out edits). There ranges are so wide and dynamic; I don't see a way to staunch account creation, unfortunately.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for finding the other account. —  Newslinger  talk   23:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * —  Newslinger  talk   00:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Same editing area, and I received from them for recreating "Zameen (novel)", which was recently deleted because it was started by sock. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 17:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked 1 month. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Account created within the last hour. First edit similar to the one the previous sock IP made on Zameen (novel). Same editing area. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 11:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Also compare this from Limnoboria & this from out of the archive. Quack. --Jack Frost (talk) 08:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * - requesting both confirmation and a sleepers check per the archives which have found them in the past. This applies to both this and the 15 March section. The SandDoctor  Talk 16:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ plus the following accounts:
 * , closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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Same editing area. First edit: on Aangan (novel) after prior sock edited the page and was blocked a day earlier. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 17:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment Oh good, glad you reported them. They also like to add "Broadcast and release" sections which is common for Bttowadch socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 18:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * In case more is needed, they've recreated Roshan Sitara, originally created by Bttowadch sock.  Ravensfire  (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * Please see above. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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Inactive for two weeks but several overlaps with other socks and same editing area <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 14:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Comment This IP is in one of the ranges that I watch where Bttowadch tends to edit from Special:Contributions/39.34.160.0/20. You can see in the history here  and edit from very similar IP followed by an edit from HaseenZindagi, reported above. , do we have enough on these two cases for review?  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Closing without action as IP stale. The SandDoctor  Talk 16:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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Moved Draft:Mor Moharaan to mainspace, bypassing AfC review, despite the page's history of sockpuppetry. WP:DUCK. Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:57, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * - for confirmation and a sleeper check. Sleepers have been previously found in this case. Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:02, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Bagging and tagging sock account. . This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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Same editing area. Hum aur Tum overlaps with and  – two blocked sockpuppets, and likely with more. — 11:25 (UTC)

BeauSuzanne overlaps with at least, and on Chupke Chupke (TV series) with and the recently reported. Account created on 15 June 2020 before Bttowadch (8 August 2020) so I'm not so sure about this one. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:Teal;font-size:110%;">Idell</b> (talk) 12:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * I've merged two reports. If a case is open, it's fine to just add new socks to it as they pop up. Best,  --Blablubbs&#124;talk 12:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Group 1 ✅ to the master, :
 * Group 2 to the above, ✅ to each other:
 * ST47 (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Group 2 to the above, ✅ to each other:
 * ST47 (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ST47 (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ST47 (talk) 05:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't have enough time right now to delve into Group 2's behavior, but for technical reasons I'm inclined to say they are probably not Bttowadch specifically. A cursory look seems to indicate that the two Group 2 accounts have a lot of WP:ILLEGIT overlap independent of Bttowadch, so they could be blocked and/or warned just for that. Mz7 (talk) 06:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Warned group 2. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:08, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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Pro forma report (filing purely for the record). See below. Mz7 (talk) 05:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅., closing. Mz7 (talk) 05:41, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

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New account created after prior socks were blocked. All edits have been to Draft:Roshan Sitara, which created as a redirect by an IP (99.9% Bttowadch sock), seen by prior socks,. The draft article was originally created by a prior sock and then deleted, making this recreating highly suspicious. The first edit from Tree632 shows an impressive command of sourcing.  Ravensfire  (talk) 23:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * - sleepers have been previously found for this case, so a sleeper check seems useful (a check of this account would also be helpful). Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ plus ., closing. Mz7 (talk) 22:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Recreated several articles previous created by Bttowadch socks.
 * Anjanay Nagar - plus  (draft article)
 * Aamna Malick - and  (note creating IPs is in common range for Bttowadch)
 * Bharaas -  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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I am not a sockpuppet or Bttowadch. I recently joined the Wikipedia. The articles which I create, were not on Wikipedia and were ealier created by Bttowadch and Pakistanpedia and I informed the one who deleted those pages before.

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 * If not Bttowadch, then Pakistanpedia as so helpfully pointed out. Or more likely, those are both part of one big multi-actor sock drawer.  Also ECP List of programs broadcast by Hum TV. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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These IPs submitted Draft:Srha Asghar. Srha Asghar was submitted a week ago by a Bttowadch sock. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * No question this is Bttowadch. The redirect requests made by 139.28.179.61 alone are WP:DUCK. See this edit from a prior sock  and the recent edits from IP's, .  Probable range is Special:Contributions/139.28.179.0/24.  Ravensfire  (talk) 13:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, found this which suggests this range may be used by anonymizing VPN services.  That wouldn't surprise me as Bttowadch has seen some of their prior ranges blocked, including a recent range blocked as a proxy .  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please note that the range has been blocked for 3 years as a M247 proxy range. WikiProject_on_open_proxies/Requests.  Given these IP's are obviously Bttowadch, I'm going to tag for CSD G5 the drafts and articles created over the past few days.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * The /24 has already been blocked, so I think we're done here. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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Username alone would be a soft-block for Bot in the name, but this is a pretty obvious sock of Bttowadch. Early edits are to request redirects be created, which has been a recent trend of theirs, especially on IP addresses. Several requests are the same as those made from the range just blocked - vs  and  vs.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Clearly a sock. As with so many of these, it's hard to be sure who they're a sock of, so noting Pakistanpedia as a possible alternate master. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

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Requesting redirects be created for articles deleted previously as created by Bttowadch socks. See, ,. This is being done to get around IP's not being able to create articles. See and the draft.  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Yep, can't think of any other explanation for this. for a two-week block of the IP. If they resume editing from it after those two weeks, we can bump it up to a month.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 03:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * IP vlocked 2 weeks as requested, Nothing more to do. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 12:52, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

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User phaans is creating Iltija page again which was deleted many times before. It was earlier created by Pakistanpedia and Dramanrama. I suspect all these users are linked because creating the same page again despite of being deleted many times, therefore, requesting a check. TheChronium 14:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)  TheChronium  14:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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Adding BeauSuzanne as they have recreated at least two articles originally created by socks:


 * Hina Rizvi, Page log. Originally created by, a blocked sock of Pakistanpedia, later recreated by Pakistanpedia, G5 deleted.


 * Danielle McRae, Draft:Danielle McRae Page log, G5, created by MeemeeAi.  is also a blocked sock of Pakistanpedia, Draft was G5 deleted in 2019.  The article was originally deleted in 2016 as part of AfD.  I  nominated it again yesterday before I realized the history.

S0091 (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi. I am not a Sockpuppet or Pakistanpedia. I have never abuse an account, i've have always respected everyone's work. Yes Danielle McRae was deleted but at that time i saw the draft:Danielle McRae which was previously deleted. And I have no connection or anything with the three wikipedians which are mentioned i joined wikipedia in 2020.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 19:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC))

Adding more:


 * Draft:Eshal Fayyaz
 * Original creator: User:Son of Khaldun, sock of User:OfficialPankajPatidar
 * Draft page log, recreated by BeauSuzanne
 * Page log
 * SPI: WP:Sockpuppet investigations/OfficialPankajPatidar
 * Deletion: WP:Articles for deletion/Eshal Fayyaz


 * Kinza Malik
 * Original creater: User:Dramanrama, sock of Pakistanpedia
 * Draft page log, recreated by BeauSuzanne
 * Page log, G5 deleted


 * Shaheen Khan
 * Original creator: User:SajidMir2 (blocked for socking)
 * SPI: WP:Sockpuppet investigations/SajidMir2/Archive
 * Draft page log, recreated by BeauSuzanne
 * Page log, cannot trace what happened due to title variations

This is quite complicated and I suspect a large UPE farm. I will also note BeauSuzanne has deleted their talk page except for the Danielle McRae Afd notice, however I will note  did post a UPE notice to which BeauSuzanne denied. S0091 (talk) 22:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes i have deleted it there was nothing behind it and Praxidicae did send a post to me and i quickly wrote to Praxidice that I am not part of anything also I don't have anything connection with other wikipedians.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 05:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC))

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 * Just as a note (passing through here as this concern was initially raised at my talk page) the recreated/current version of Iltija is significantly different than the deleted versions. Obviously that does not automatically mean they are different people, just that it's not a slam-dunk copy/paste duck. Primefac (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Phaans is ✅ to User:M_Abdula, blocked as a sock of someone else. Also in that group:
 * That group as socks of User:Bttowadch. ST47 (talk) 21:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * This report should probably be moved to Sockpuppet_investigations/Bttowadch. ST47 (talk) 21:29, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Report moved from Pakistanpedia to Bttowadch —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:55, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * - I've noticed some oddities in the tagging, which I want to chase down. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @ST47 @Blablubbs @Yamaguchi先生 @TheresNoTime Something's odd about . They were previously tagged as proven to, who in turn is confirmed to .  But now we've also got them confirmed to  who is confirmed to  .  Could one of those be wrong?  Maybe just accept that we may never know for sure and tag them with an altmaster? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That group as socks of User:Bttowadch. ST47 (talk) 21:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * This report should probably be moved to Sockpuppet_investigations/Bttowadch. ST47 (talk) 21:29, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Report moved from Pakistanpedia to Bttowadch —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:55, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * - I've noticed some oddities in the tagging, which I want to chase down. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @ST47 @Blablubbs @Yamaguchi先生 @TheresNoTime Something's odd about . They were previously tagged as proven to, who in turn is confirmed to .  But now we've also got them confirmed to  who is confirmed to  .  Could one of those be wrong?  Maybe just accept that we may never know for sure and tag them with an altmaster? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @ST47 @Blablubbs @Yamaguchi先生 @TheresNoTime Something's odd about . They were previously tagged as proven to, who in turn is confirmed to .  But now we've also got them confirmed to  who is confirmed to  .  Could one of those be wrong?  Maybe just accept that we may never know for sure and tag them with an altmaster? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello @User:RoySmith CheckUser search from last month found SemonLee was deemed likely to UmatiKhan, and that UmatiKhan was confirmed to SajidMir2.  In terms of the behavioral evidence, the SemonLee account was following/reinstating edits by other previously blocked SajidMir2/SheryOfficial accounts, including Huwalhabib, Biskut Merry, and others.  There are a few ways to interpret this, but at a minimum these accounts were colluding with each other and most likely doing so on the same wide subnets.  Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 16:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I've re-tagged them as confirmed to Bttowadch and suspected to SajidMir2. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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Recreated Amanat (2021 TV series) which was originally created by IWmbiz under a different name (see page history ).  Ravensfire  (talk) 17:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Account has been CU blocked by ST47. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Editing Draft:Munazzah_Arif which is mostly Bttowadch IP edits
 * Continuing Bttowadch IP sock efforts to create article from redirect at, despite an actual draft existing (and created and mainly edited by Bttowadch socks)
 * Partial restore here of larger sock edit   Ravensfire  (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * - worth a check, especially for sleepers. The SandDoctor  Talk 15:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 18:36, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * TeriJhukiNazar ✅, along with:
 * all blocked and tagged. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * all blocked and tagged. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * all blocked and tagged. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Closing. I'm glad I requested the check, ! Thanks. The SandDoctor  Talk 19:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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Created just a few days after the prior sock TeriJhukiNazar was blocked. Created Khamoshiyan (film) which as the note on the article says should be at Khamoshiyan (TV series) but that page was deleted as created by a Bttowadch sock. The new title is an attempt to evade attention. History of Ankahi shows edits from multiple prior Bttowadch socks. Same for New York Se New Karachi. MadCow has created several articles from redirects which has been a recent trend for Bttowadch socks.  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * - based on 10 November 2021's logs, this is a worthwhile case to check. The SandDoctor  Talk 22:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:40, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ along with:
 * -- RoySmith (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * -- RoySmith (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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This is weird one. If you look at their interaction history, you see an overlap of interest. If you compare the articles they have created, you see a definite similarity between the two. Example: Khoobsurat (TV series) by the puppet, and this version, which was what was originally created by the puppeteer.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * - I'm not entirely convinced the similarity is not just "two users creating articles about Pakistan TV". Is there any other similarity other than what was explicitly stated in the report? MarioGom (talk) 11:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . Feel free to reopen or report again if there is new evidence. MarioGom (talk) 10:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)