Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bullet Dropper/Archive

30 November 2010

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Editors at ANI have stated a suspicion that "Learn From It" is a sock of "Bullet Dropper". "Bullet Dropper" had a sock, "Rapidosity", that is now blocked. TFD (talk) 03:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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The Four Deuces on his paranoid witch-hunt again. Bullet Dropper (talk) 04:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Rapidosity was not a "sock." It was just my old account. I migrated to another username. Bullet Dropper (talk) 04:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What about ? Nakon  04:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What about them? The Four Deuces thinks it's me. It's not. Four Deuces has gone on a witch hunt before like this, accusing me and a few other users of being each other. And it turned out that we weren't. And I got blocked for being those other people BEFORE they did the check. Then they took off the block after they did a check, and didn't apologize. Then reblocked me for expressing discontent over it and complaining about not getting an apology for being wrongly blocked. This is retarded. Bullet Dropper (talk) 04:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You were never blocked for that - only for edit-warring (and comments on talk page). Check your block log and talk page.  TFD (talk) 05:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not true: "Decline reason: This does not address the reason to why you were block which was edit warring while abusing a multiple account with FrenchTouchLiberal (talk · contribs). Please also read WP:NOTTHEM. Elockid (Talk) 03:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)" Bullet Dropper (talk) 05:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

There is someone who is a legitimate pain in the ass who has a history of editing like BD but isn't him: see User:FrenchTouchLiberal. Quite possibly that guy's sock. That said, BD is one revert away from blocked indefinitely for unrepentant edit warring - and that's without the sock. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't edit war. I state the reasons for my edits. Those edit warring are those doing reverts without explaining why other than claiming that the other person is edit warring. It's nonsense. If someone has a problem with an edit, they should explain what the problem with it is. Bullet Dropper (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand the definition of edit warring. Just because you explain your edit doesn't mean it's not edit warring. Nor does it justify it. And really, your attempt to "discuss" it was no better than anyone else's - "revert unexplained deletion" and "explain your edit" (both done before you brought the issue to talk) are no better than "undiscussed addition", "Rv edit warring", and "see talk page". Of course, you knew that, unless you're purposefully not listening or dense (or quite possibly both). Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Problematic page Classical liberalism now protected  Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 06:44, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * - I see a few red flags here, but nothing conclusive. I note it is very possible for these two editors to not be the same individual, but I think some technical evidence can clean up this mess. Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 06:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's the two are related.  TN X Man  12:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it an issue of location, dynamic IP ranges, and/or user-agent data? And may I ask if is in any way related? Magog the Ogre (talk) 13:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Per MuZemike's check last time, FrenchTouchLiberal is ❌ to Bullet Dropper. As for my findings, it's a combination of the things you mention. The two are in different geographic areas and on different ISPs. Only a gap in the contribution history from Bullet Dropper kept me from marking this ❌ as well. TN X Man  14:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. I was close to closing this with no action before because of some discrepancies I saw in the contributions, but some red flags kept me guessing. If CU also shows discrepancies I'm pretty convinced there's no relation. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 20:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)