Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/COLONEL77/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Possible block evasion: COLONEL77 is indefinitely blocked (Feb 2020). This week, this IP began editing similar articles; like C77, the IP has a thing for changing "played for" to "played with" (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tommy_Hutton&diff=prev&oldid=941792394 by C77 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Miller_(first_baseman)&diff=prev&oldid=961257333 by IP, as examples). Plus the aggressive pomposity when the IP posted on a talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Naypta&diff=prev&oldid=962615211) matches C77's talk page manner (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Larry_Hockett&diff=prev&oldid=942100588). Schazjmd  (talk)  14:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Per the privacy policy, and the local and global checkuser policies check users do not connect IPs and accounts except in very rare circumstances. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Four months after being blocked, an IP starts making similar edits to similar articles. It's not impossible that this is block evasion, but it's far from enough to be thinking about blocking.  Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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User:COLONEL77 was blocked in 2020 for incivility and account sharing. User:19PATTON45 has edited in spurts since September. They edit in overlapping topic areas (such as baseball and the military), but the writing style is what really gives it away.

COLONEL77 used some odd grammatical constructs, such as removing "that" and replacing "but" with "though" or with "however" even when it makes the sentence worse. I noticed similarities from 19PATTON45's earliest edits. (Here is a more recent one.)

The best evidence is probably the screeds that both editors dish out when angered by the slightest of perceived slights. Here is a rant 19PATTON45 left on my UTP. Compare it to two of the rants that COLONEL77 left for me here and here. Note the shared use of all caps, odd phrases connected by forward slashes ("proper / correct facts / details", and insults about my sports knowledge.

These accounts both express the belief that others shouldn't remove problematic material (such as unsourced BLP info) from these entries because he has met the subjects of these articles and he presumes that other editors have not.

19PATTON45, from the rant posted above: "DID YOU KNOW, EVER MEET, SPOKE WITH ROGER FREED - DOUBTFUL !!!"

COLONEL77: "WE KNEW  WES  McKNIGHT  AND  FELT  HIS  ABSOLUTELY  TERRIBLE  MINIMAL  ENTRY  WAS  NOT  AT  ALL  WORTHY  OF  THIS  GENTLEMAN - THEREFORE,  PLEASE  NOW  DO  THE  ONLY  RIGHT  THING  BY  GOING  BACK  TO  RESET  WHAT  ALL  OF  WHICH  WAS  SUBMITTED  YOU  HAVE  REMOVED. ALSO,  WHAT  ACTUAL  RIGHT  DO  YOU  HAVE  TO  EDIT  OUT / REMOVE  SOMETHING  ON  ANY  PERSON  YOU  DO  NOT  KNOW  NOR  KNOW  ANYTHING  ABOUT  LIKE  THIS  WHICH  IS  100 %  TOTALLY  ACCURATE  FROM  END  TO  END  WITHOUT  GETTING  IN  TOUCH  WITH  A  SUBMITTER  FIRST ??? - ."

Sorry - I know this is a lot to unpack. I thought about waiting for more evidence, but things are escalating a bit since Patton wants to find out my name to report me to SABR (an off-wiki baseball organization) for my "false claim" of SABR membership. (I am a member and don't fully understand his rationale, but I am alarmed that his concern for me is moving off-wiki.) I hope the diffs show enough of the general editing approach to make the connection evident. Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:04, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * - same interests, same all-caps username, and same all-caps rants with overuse of slashes and hyphens adds up to WP:DUCK. Please indefinitely block 19PATTON45 with TPA disabled per the block on the master. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 13:57, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm yanking email too considering the expressed intent of off-wiki harassment. Closing.  --Blablubbs (talk) 14:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)