Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Caillou Pettis/Archive

17 March 2016

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Serial spammer for non-notable child youtuber Caillou Pettis. WP:Walled garden articles to date include thrice-deleted Caillou Pettis, Aaron Bennett, The Pilot (Fancy Boys), itself a recreation of the twice speedy deleted Fancy Boys. Edits include this egregious attempt at promoting this kid on the Seinfeld main article. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:33, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Or maybe we can make the block based on WP:DUCK? I shouldn't have checked off the checkuser request, in retrospect, left it to the admins to decide. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * Came over from AIV while investigating a report there. I'm not seeing an obvious quacking here based on behavioral evidence from the blocked account's deleted contributions, but it's definitely possible. I'm not a clerk but I endorse the CU request. Katietalk 16:59, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * is . Moving to the normal queue. Mike V • Talk 01:48, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Both are already blocked. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  11:32, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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An unknown creator of fan films, Caillou Pettis, has repeatedly had their page recreated a number of times by these editors who specifically have edited a small focus of articles, including Batman fan films, Seinfeld and Rhett and Link. After Caillou Pettis was speedy deleted more than once and subsequently salted, other naming conventions have thus far included Caillou Pettis (actor) and Caillou Pettis (director). The most recent offender is BatmanArkhamConroy, who first recreated the article with the "director" descriptor, then after it was deleted, recreated it with the unsalted name. This account's edits so far have predominantly been about creating new articles in which they could link their name. It's highly likely that the original editor, Nicholas Favel, is actually Caillou Pettis, as their intention has been for self-promotion, rather than constructively contributing to Wikipedia. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 03:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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All the accounts except BatmanArkhamConroy are. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:50, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Given how far apart in time the different accounts were editing, I don't see any abuse of multiple accounts here, regardless of whether they are the same person, meatpuppets, or totally unrelated. Re-report if multiple users are editing around the same time to give a false illusion of support. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:24, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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SimplyBatman22 was created after FilmLover2016, but SimplyBatman22 seems to be the main account, with edits to different pages. The only edits done by FilmLover2016 are related to Caillou Pettis which is a page that has been recreated by SimplyBatman22, as evident in the page logs and his talk page even after an AFD discussion. Notice how the only vote for a keep is made by FilmLover2016. I am unsure of which accounts created the pages before the one he recreated in 2017. This current May 2018 rendition was created by SimplyBatman22 in the draft space, then moved by FilmLover2016 to the main space. Yeenosaurus  (talk) 🍁 02:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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They're back! The Caillou Pettis page was recreated by RhettAndLinkFans, a new user with similar contributions as the previous socks, as a draft, then moved to the mainspace by BatmanArkhamConroy, who also happens to have created the Caillou Pettis page before twice or more (see talk page), of which I now remember tagging years back. BatmanArkhamConroy's edits are a bit more diverse, but also contain similar edits to pages such as Rhett and Link and of course Pettis. He has also defended the page in an AFD in a similar manner to previous sock (similar username!). For the record, there are also other SPIs involving Pettis, at Sockpuppet investigations/Nicholas Favel/Archive, in which Filmlover2016 and BatmanArkhamConroy are listed as suspected SPs. Yeenosaurus  (talk) 🍁 05:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)  Yeenosaurus   (talk) 🍁 05:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * It should be noted that BatmanArkhamConroy's recent creations have included an article about a film which has not yet even gone into production yet, based on Caillou Pettis tweeting about it a few days earlier, and the same film's not otherwise notable screenwriter. Bearcat (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Please merge to Sockpuppet investigations/FilmLover2016.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:59, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

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Recreation of an article about Omnicrom, the same as yet unreleased Caillou Pettis film that I mentioned in the last discussion, after it was deleted at Articles for deletion/Omnicron. SeinfeldSaltyDischarge also has a longer edit history of Caillou Pettis promotionalism — including the creation (today) of the high school Caillou Pettis attended (with, of course, Caillou Pettis listed as a notable alumnus), and heavy participation in the 2016 round of Caillou Pettis and his Batman fan film and his self-created film studio. Even SSD's few undeleted edits still involved Caillou Pettis in some way, such as quoting his user-generated IMDb comments as film reviews and adding mentions of his Batman fan film to the articles about real Batman franchise films and adding Caillou Pettis to the requested articles list. I suspect we should probably check for other sleepers as well. Bearcat (talk) 16:18, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * Note: I got email from one of the socks asking me to create a page for them. I've adjusted the blocks on both of these accounts to deny email access.  -- RoySmith (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

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The two accounts are ✅ to each other and to the master. .--Bbb23 (talk) 18:34, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * behaviourally they're clearly sockpuppets. I'll leave them untagged per the CU's wishes. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:53, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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Recreation of Draft:Caillou Pettis (Canadian filmmaker), again. Bearcat (talk) 19:15, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * - This looks pretty clear cut. One these is already globally locked. Please block the other indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:12, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping (and  since I don't know if the former is active here). Seems like this should be handled globally. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:19, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Locked. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 21:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. No need for action locally, we're not tagging socks in this case. I'll leave it up to you whether or not to delete the draft. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * faster than me. Best -- Alaa  )..! 21:31, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

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Admin-shopping to bypass the WP:AFC process, by asking to have Draft:Caillou Pettis (Canadian filmmaker) (of course) moved directly into articlespace without proper AFC review. The request admittedly backfired, as one of the requestees submitted it for proper AFC review instead of just moving it themselves — and it's already been rejected for the same reasons it got rejected or deleted all the other times, but the fact that the request was made at all is problematic in and of itself. Some of this editor's past socks have already graduated to globally-locked status, for the record — and this version's only other contribution to date, besides this draft and the talk page requests, is an already-deleted draft about Caillou Pettis's father, which made no other notability claim at all besides fatherhood. Bearcat (talk) 20:59, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * -  Could one of you please globally lock this account? Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alaa  )..! 06:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

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The most obvious quacking: Draft:Caillou Pettis and also CU blocked as FilmLover2016 on other wikis. Praxidicae (talk) 14:39, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:04, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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Recreated their favorite, Caillou Pettis as TwistedFalcon plus a ton of overlap with past socks like Nicholas Favel Praxidicae (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Also clearly using this previously cu blocked ip again. Praxidicae (talk) 18:03, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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Same overlap as last sock, same userpage sans a few changes and xwiki spamming of Omnicron and more Caillou Pettis crap. Praxidicae (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Already locked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:29, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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more crap, new name Praxidicae (talk) 19:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to socks in the archive, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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More caillou pettis garbage plus standard overap and username. Praxidicae (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Caillou Pettis again. This time their tactic has been to spam a bunch of user talk pages with links to blogs and IMDb and the same Taylor Swift tweet coverage that wasn't enough the first eleventy squillion times, in an attempt to get somebody else to recreate a new article in lieu of trying to do it themselves. This, of course, also ties in with Sockpuppet investigations/Caillou Pettis and Sockpuppet investigations/Nicholas Favel, which should probably all just be merged into one, but I'm choosing this puppetmaster name as it's the one that's been updated within the last few months with current socknames that might not be stale yet. Bearcat (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The IP is stale now. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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Creation of Golden Scythe Horror Awards, an article about a one-man my-personal-favourite-films "award" with no reliable source coverage whatsoever — said one man being none other than Caillou Pettis. I acknowledge the high probability that the older accounts may be too stale to link definitively, but this still needs to be documented for the record regardless, and given that past dances around this maypole often found sleeper accounts, there may be sleepers again. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, for the record, I still believe that Sockpuppet investigations/Nicholas Favel and Sockpuppet investigations/Caillou Pettis should be merged with this as well, but when I tried to do that myself it stopped me from being able to edit the archive pages at all on the grounds of lacking the necessary privileges. Bearcat (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * - He's persistent, I'll give him that. Behavioral connection is obvious., marking for Clerk attention so they can merge these SPI cases. The Wordsmith Talk to me 19:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , I think you forgot to block and tag. Spicy (talk) 00:13, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops, missed that one. Fixed now, thanks for catching it. The Wordsmith Talk to me 00:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have merged the cases and retagged the accounts to Caillou Pettis, which is the oldest account, closing. 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 07:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)