Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CanadianHistorian(MMA & History)/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
The editor CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) frequently edits the article Quebec Biker War, and has recently been blocked on 22nd of April of this year. Today, an IP 2607:FEA8:28E0:2940:3163:CA4C:9C96:F0ED has started to edit the same article. The IP is operating out of London, Ontario. According to CandianHistorian's talk page, London, Ontario is his hometown. More importantly, the edit summaries and editing style left by this IP are very similar to CanadianHistorian(MMA & History). Compare this edit  and this edit by  by this IP with these edits by CanadianHistorian  and this. And also examine the work of the IP 2605:8D80:6E0:115C:FAC4:F835:D453:42E5 that operates out of Niagara Falls. Compare this edit by this IP here with this edit  by CanadianHistorian. These IPs and this editor are trying to insist that despite all of the evidence to the contrary that the Hells Angels did not win the Quebec Biker War. This editor and these IPs leave edit summaries that are written in this angry, lengthy and rude style that are addressed to the editors that they disagreed with. All these IPs and CanadianHistorian kept insisting that the biker war ended in a "stalemate" and the Hells Angels were "crippled". It is also very odd that these IP show up on the day after CanadianHistorian was blocked and the only article these IPs edits is one that he is clearly very passionate about. Just look at this edit by CanadianHistorian on his talk page. Full disclosure: I was mentioned in this post. Leaving that aside, one really gets the sense that CanadianHistorian wants the article to say that the Quebec biker war was a "stalemate" as this editor does not like having an article that says that the Rock Machine lost. Note also that CanadianHistorian usually edits out of a mobile phone, and that these 2 IPs likewise edit out of a mobile phone. Furthermore, all these edits tend to occur in the same time frame. --A.S. Brown (talk) 02:09, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Just adding to my case. This IP from London is making the precise same arguments in the same style as CanadianHistorian edits. Compare this edit today with this edit by CanadianHistorian . Full disclosure: I'm mentioned in these posts. In both cases, this IP and CanadianHistorian are asking other editors to change the Quebec Biker War article based on the same article from The Montreal Gazette that CanadianHistorian first introduced. Both write in the same ranting style, using lengthy run-on sentences that talk about protecting the article quality and attack the motives of other editors. Just based on the writing style and the type of arguments being used leads to a strong suspicion on my part that CanadianHistorian is engaging in block evasion. Note also that this IP in his post thanks Cassiopeia for previous help, which is rather odd given there is no interaction as far I can see between Cassiopeia and this IP. But if one looks at the history of the talk page of CanadianHistorian, one will see that Cassiopeia has provided advice and guidance to CanadianHistorian last year. Finally, this IP practically admits to being CanadianHistorian as he writes "I have been banned from the site". Thank you for your time and patience! --A.S. Brown (talk) 21:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Just add to the case here, this IP has just admitted to being CanadianHistorian, see here: . He says here that is not coming back, but his claim that he will have a "friend" start editing on his behalf in a few days time leaves me concerned about the prospect of more socking. Thank you for your time. --A.S. Brown (talk) 06:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . The shared interest in Quebec Biker War, and this edit compared with CH's previous edit summaries is quite compelling. Logging out to avoid sanctions is a hardline breach of the sockpuppetry policy. FYI. --Jack Frost (talk) 03:19, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's pretty obvious the IPs are block evasion. I semi-protected Quebec Biker War.  Might need more of that, we'll see how things go.  Also, for those researching this case, see this log entry. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The editor CanadianHistorian was blocked last month. I already filed a report against him, see here: Sockpuppet investigations/CanadianHistorian(MMA & History)/Archive. One of the articles that this editor is very passionate about is the Rock Machine Motorcycle Club. Despite the block, this editor has continued to edit. Via the IP address 2607:FEA8:28E0:2940:3163:CA4C:9C96:F0ED, this editor has been bold enough to declare itself a sock puppet see:. The same IP address has last edited on 4th of May of this year, see here:. On 5th of May of this year, a number of IPs edited the Rock Machine article, see:, , , , and. All of these IPs are editing from a mobile phone in Kitchener, Ontario. CanadianHistorian always edits from a mobile phone. Beyond that, CanadianHistorian cannot contribute at a professional level of English and sentences written by this editor are frequently ungrammatical and run-on. See here: and  as just a few examples out of many. The sentence written by this IP, stating: "The claims by Langton would turn out to be incorrect, whether or not he was aware of this is unknown, information later revealed by private investigator and journalist, Alex Caine along with statements from members of the club itself, showed that original members of the Rock Machine add indeed being involved in the resurrection of the club with over half of its membership in 2008 being original members". This is precisely the same writing style as CanadianHistorian and makes the same arguments CanadianHistorian made in these edits: and here. I know this is not the place to discuss this, but it is the deeply held conviction of CanadianHistorian that the original Rock Machine of 1986-2001 is connected to the latter-day Rock Machine founded in 2008, despite the fact the sources say otherwise. As far as I can tell, CanadianHistorian is the only editor who is pushing this thesis and these IPs are pushing that same thesis using the same writing style.

The editor IcemanChuckLiddell first showed up on 26th of April of this year, just four days after CanadianHistorian was blocked. That editor only edits articles related to Canadian outlaw bikers and Canadian UFC figthing, the same topics that CanadianHistorian edited. Again like CanadianHistorian, this editor only edits from a mobile phone. This edit here on the Quebec Biker War here: and  is precisely the same style as CanadianHistorian's edits, compare here:,  and. Further compare that with this IP's edits. CanadianHistorian when in disagreement with another editor will address the editor he disagrees in a lengthy run-on sentence, until he uses all of the space available in the edit summary, just like what Iceman does. Please also look at these edits by CanadianHistorian, here and, where talks about reverting "damaging" and "destructive" edits. Also note compare this edit with Iceman with this edit by CanadianHistorian. Finally, the material that Iceman put back into this article that CanadianHistorian first put in here: and. The material from Alex Caine's book The Fat Mexican together with Peter Edwards's book The Bandido Massacre, which added by CanadianHistorian was put back in by Iceman with the comment about undoing a "damaging edit". Thank you for your time and help. A.S. Brown (talk) 09:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * IcemanChuckLiddell is ✅. I've reblocked  as a full block, blocked IcemanChuckLiddell, and thrown around some additional semi-protection. -- RoySmith (talk) 10:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * To whom it many concern. For anyone familiar with this case, this editor was blocked back in April of this year and has continued to engage in block evasion by editing as an IP. Please refer to the prior archived investigations for proof of this statement. In April of this year, CanadianHistorian was so bold as to admit that he was continuing to edit as as IP despite blocked. See here: [ ].


 * The outstanding characteristics of CanadianHistorian's editing is that he always edits via a cellphone; is based in London, Ontario, and almost the only topics he edits relates to Canadian outlaw bikers and Canadian MMA fighting. These four of IP addresses have started being active since May of this year and all four only edit via cellphones. One of these IPs is based in London, Ontario while the other two appear to be based in Toronto. One of these IPs is based in Vancouver, but that IP edited via a cellphone the article on Tristan Connelly, which CanadianHistorian created in 2019 at the request of Mr. Connelly. All four of these IPs have only edited biker and/or MMA topics. Moreover, two of these IPs have edited very heavily articles that CanadianHistorian has edited heavily in the past such as the Rock Machine Motorcycle Club and several are articles created by him such as Organized crime in London, Ontario, Vendettas Motorcycle Club and the Gate Keepers Motorcycle Club. In the prior investigation back in April-May, it was established that CanadianHistorian as an IP edited from a number of different locations in southern Ontario, so the differing locations used by these IPs is consistent with his past behavior.


 * I do not mean this as a personal attack, but CanadianHistorian cannot contribute at a professional level of English. Sentences written by this editor are frequently ungrammatical and run-on. See here:, ,, , and as just a few examples out of many. Compare this sentence by the IP, which has the same disjointed style of CanadianHistorian's writing: and this sentence: . Further compare these edits  by CanadianHistorian , , , and  with these edits by the IP: ,  and.


 * Along the same lines, compare this edit by CanadianHistorian which states Mario Parente was the president of the London chapter of the Outlaws biker gang and this edit by the IP which says the same thing: . Most notably, both CanadianHistorian and this IP used the same source for this statement, namely this link here: . The source being cited here by CH and the IP does not support the statements being made. The source says nothing about Mr. Parente or London, Ontario. I do not mean this as a personal attack, but CanadianHistorian invents all sort of people that never existed and events that never happened, which he will seemingly back-up by citing sources that do not actually support his statements. It is most curious that this IP is engaging in the precise same procedure, making the same statement about Mr. Parente living in London, Ontario that is not true by citing the same news story from 2002 using the same website. I cannot find a single reference supporting that statement that Mr. Parente lived in London, Ontario and CanadianHistorian is the only editor around here who has been making that claim with a bogus reference.


 * This is a bit technical, but one of CanadianHistorian's contentions is that the there is a connection between the first version of the Rock Machine and the second version, which was covered in the previous investigation. Note that this edit by the IP deleting the statement there is no connection: . Again, CanadianHistorian has made the claim that the "principle base" of the Annihilators motorcycle gang was the farmhouse of Wayne Kellestine outside of Iona Station. See here: and . Compare that with this edit by the IP:  and this edit by another IP: . This is very suspicious given the fact that no-one else in the world really cares about where the "principle base of operations" of the Annihilators were, and CanadianHistorian is the only editor who has making that claim. It seems very important for CanadianHistorian to associate Mr. Kellestine with the London, Ontario area as much as possible.


 * I was going to file an ANI against CanadianHistorian back in April, but he was blocked for another reason, so I ended up abandoning the project. One of the really annoying things about this editor is that he has no regard for the truth. He frequently gives citations for his statements, which are usually taken from the 2010 book Showdown by Jerry Langton, that are not supported by the source. Here is one example: . The book by Langton says nothing about anyone being killed or injured. Here is another example: . CanadianHistorian wrote here "The Loners Motorcycle Club is a group of motorcycle enthusiasts that are not involved in organized crime, any members that choose to commit these acts do so without the permission of the club" with a citation to page 170 of Langton's book. Page 170 does not say that at all, in fact it does not mention the Loners gang at all. Compare that with this edit by the IP:, which cites page 140 of Langton's book, which does not say that all. Again, this IP has this edit: . Once again, the source being cited is page 140 of Langton's book, where the quote does not appear. Furthermore, look at this edit by this IP: . Once again, the source being cited is page 168 of Langton's book, and once again the book does not say that. This similarity in editing style, using the precise same book and making citations that are not supported by the source, is a strong indication that these IPs are in fact CanadianHistorian. Furthermore, note that two of these IPs have never edited before June of this year, yet the IPs knew how to make citations via the Harvard style. Newbies generally don't cite, and even then those that do usually did not use the Harvard style. See here for an example: . That suggests someone who has edited before, and the particular choice of articles together with the writing styles and arguments being indicate that CanadianHistorian has returned to editing after the page protection has expired.


 * The case against Canada1813 is a little weak as this editor has only made one edit. This editor has edited Rock Machine article via a cellphone. These badly written edit summary "Adding a important who is part of the history of since 2012 and made a lot changes" is similar to the other edit summaries by CanadianHistorian, see here:, , , ,  and .  It might also be useful to compare the writing style of CH's sockpuppet IcemanChuckLiddell here: . It might be profitable to run checkuser against this editor.


 * Thank you for your time and patience. Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 23:58, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Outlaw bikers and MMA. Sheesh, that's some kind of level. We should get rid of all that shit in the first place. Drmies (talk) 00:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you can exclude the account, via geolocation/CU. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, Drmies, during the previous bout of sock-puppetry by CanadianHistorian, he edited from a number of different locations such as Niagara Falls and Kitchener . According to CanadianHistorian's own statements around here, he is involved in MMA fighting in some way, which would presumably require him to travel around. I'm sorry, I wrote Toronto earlier. WHOIS was not working that day, so I had to use Geolocate instead, which gave me the wrong location of Toronto, instead of London, Ontario, which WHOIS gave me. More to the point, let's look at the history of these IPs:
 * 2607:FEA8:2B20:C7A0:6C30:AC47:394C:7608-this IP is from London, Ontario, which accordingly to CanadianHistorian's talk page this is his hometown. This IP edited via cellphone the articles Organized crime in London, Ontario, Wayne Kellestine, Rock Machine Motorcycle Club, TKO Major League MMA, Manitoba Warriors, Vendettas Motorcycle Club, and Gate Keepers Motorcycle Club. Every single one of these articles, CanadianHistorian has edited in the past.  With the exception of the Manitoba Warriors article, he has edited all of these articles quite heavily since November of last year. The articles on Vendettas Motorcycle Club,  Gate Keepers Motorcycle Club, TKO Major League MMA and Organized crime in London, Ontario were all created by CanadianHistorian.
 * 2607:FEA8:2C63:7E00:1AC:C1F5:883D:C5A6-again this IP is from London, Ontario and edited the articles on the Rock Machine and Organized crime in London, Ontario, which are two of CanadianHistorian's favorite articles to edit.
 * 2001:569:7C7E:D400:E030:BEAA:DBA4:263-this editor is from Surrey, British Columbia and edited via a cellphone the article on Tristan Connelly, which CanadianHistorian created. It is extremely unlikely that someone would go all the way from London, Ontario to Surrey just to edit an article, but it quite possible that CanadianHistorian was visiting the Lower Mainland in May. Maybe it was someone else because Surrey is a long way from London, but still it is odd that IPs using a cellphone have kept editing articles that CanadianHistorian created ever since he was blocked in April.
 * 2607:FEA8:28E0:2940:41ED:BF87:48AE:A929-this editor is again from London, Ontario and edited back in May the articles on Frank Lenti (a biker) and Kay Hansen (a MMA fighter).
 * Canada1813 has made only edit so far, to the Rock Machine article, but the edit summary sounds similar to CanadianHistorian's edit summaries as discussed above. More importantly, this editor used a cellphone, which is the only way that CanadianHistorian ever edits. 1813 was the year of the Battle of the Thames, which was an important event in the history of London, Ontario area. The name Canada1813 might be a reference to that battle. The War of 1812 article is about the only non-biker and non-MMA article that CanadianHistorian has ever edited extensively. If the name Canada1813 is a reference to the Battle of the Thames, that could very well mean this account is from the London, Ontario area. Given that CanadianHistorian is from London, it might very well be a sock puppet. It might be useful to run checkuser against that editor, which could be a sleeper account.


 * CanadianHistorian always edits via a cellphone and was involved in a previous bout of sock-puppetry following being blocked back in April. It is possible that someone else from London, Ontario had edited as an IP an article that CanadianHistorian has previously worked on. But it is very unlikely that someone else from London, Ontario would edit via a cellphone 7 articles that CanadianHistorian previously worked on. With the exception of the article on Kay Hansen, all of these articles mentioned here CanadianHistorian has worked on. Moreoever, two of these IPs did quite a extensive number of edits on articles that CanadianHistorian has extensively edited. On 5th of July of this year, the IP 2607:fea8:2b20:c7a0:6c30:ac47:394c:7608 in a cellphone edit  where the IP wrote this sentence: "With the commencement of the Ontario Biker War and the closure of the Outlaws' Hamilton chapter in the late 1980s, and the First Biker War, the importance of the London chapter increased dramatically, and Mario Parente became it's chapter president after the death of Jeff LaBrash." On 14th of March of this year, CanadianHistorian did this edit  on the same article where he wrote: "With the commencement of the Ontario Biker War and the closure of the Outlaws Hamilton chapter in the late 1980s due to police crackdowns relating to several incidents, including the First Biker War, the importance of the London chapter would increase dramatically and Mario Parente became it's chapter President after the death of Jeff LaBrash." It is practically the same sentence and in both cases, CanadianHistorian and the IP used the same source, this news article from 2002 here:.
 * Given this prior history of sock-puppetry by CanadianHistorian, I think this is a prima facie case of the duck test. This person is not going to stop engaging in sock-puppetry. I'm afraid it is going to be necessary to permanetly auto-protect every single article that CanadianHistorian has heavily in the past because that is the only way to stop this IP sock-puppetry. Thank you for all your time and patience! Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 07:20, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * RoySmith, sorry that I was wrong about Canada1813. But on behavioral grounds, it would strongly suggest that these IPs are in fact block evasion. Thank you for your time and help. Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 00:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * , I've fixed the formatting of this case. I suggest using Twinkle or the form on the WP:SPI page to file reports - if it is not formatted correctly it will not show up in the main case listing. Spicy (talk) 07:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Spicy for the advice and help! Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 07:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Canada1813 appears to be ❌.  -- RoySmith (talk) 08:25, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The range is currently blocked. There doesn't appear to be any recent editing that is obviously this user on the other ranges. In light of this and the CU result for Canada1813, I'm closing this without further action. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 22:34, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
To Whom It May Concern, the editor CanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) was blocked back in April of this year, and quite literally within hours of being blocked began to edit as an IP. There has been an extensive history of this as anyone who willing to browse the archives relating to this case can arrest. This person has utterly no intention of abiding by the block. Accordingly to this, London, Ontario is his hometown. The IP 2607:FEA8:2B20:C7A0:5427:6647:C097:8FF8 is also from London, Ontario. All of Canadian Historian's edits were always made via a cellphone right from March 2019 to April 2022. This IP from London likewise always edits from a cellphone. CanadianHistorian mostly edited topics relating to Canadian outlaw bikers and MMA fighters. This IP has edited the articles list of Canadian UFC fighters, List of gangs in Australia, Annihilators Motorcycle Club (a Canadian biker gang), List of gangs in Canada, Rock Machine MC criminal allegations and incidents, and Rock Machine Motorcycle Club. The first one and last two on this list are articles that Canadian Historian has extensively edited. It may also be useful to compare these edit summaries by the IP from London such as "Don't change the datr" and  "Extra Space" with these edit summaries by CanadianHistorian:   "Please do not change the outcome of the conflict...";  "Please do not delete key referenced information unless you are going to move it to a separate page"; and. CanadianHistorian often addresses other editors in this fashion, saying not to change content, just this IP does. The second IP appears to be from Toronto again edits via a phone-cell and has edited a number of articles that CanadianHistorian has heavily edited in the past such as Rock Machine Motorcycle Club, Vendettas Motorcycle Club and Quebec Biker War. The third IP from Toronto has edited the article Loners Motorcycle Club (which CanadianHistorian loves to edit) and the edit summary "They look fine" sounds very like CanadianHistorian's other such punchy, concise edit summaries such as  "There's no such thing as too overly detailed",  "Comma added", and  "Spell check and reading quality". This seems a good case of the duck test. Thank you for your time, help and patience. --A.S. Brown (talk) 08:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! I don't have much experience with filing these reports, but I'm learning. Best wishes and I hope all is well! --A.S. Brown (talk) 03:28, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Just to add to this. It appears that CanadianHistorian has very active here as of late. The IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:936:FF59:220A:C277 which appears to be from Toronto, has edited the Quebec Biker War article, which is one of CanadianHistorian's favorite articles to edit via a cellphone, which at the risk of sounding tedious here, is always how CanadianHistorian edits. These edits and  are similar to other edits such this one by CanadianHistorian's sockpuppet  and this edit by CanadianHistorian . The IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:C87E:44BC:A5F1:AC7F again edits the Quebec biker war via a phone-cell from a Toronto address. The edit summaries by this IP such as  "Giovanni was a member and of the leader(when Wayne was imprisoned) of the Loners operating in SE ON. that reference states that the Toronto and Kingston chapters were given invitation by HA but not the "LONDON" chapter "as they considered them unfit to be HA". The Toronto chapter established until after the three remaining chapters were unified." and  "The rock machine only changed their colors because they became a Bandidos hang around group" sounds very similar to these edit summaries by CanadianHistorian  "They became a hang around Club in 1999 when they changed their colors to match that of the banditos initially they did not become a probationary Club until December of 2000 after an 18-month probationary period as a hang around Club. On January 6th 2001 they all became full patch members of the banditos" and  "Alaine did not become the leader of the Bandidos until January 6th 2001. The Rock Machine may have been a hang around and probationary Club but it's still possessed its name and patch until January 2001. The club changed its colors to more closely match that of the Bandidos as it was a probationary Club but nonetheless it remained The Rock Machine". Also compare this edit  where CanadianHistorian refers Wayne Kellestine as simply "Wayne". Finally, it is notable that these cellphone-based IPs are only concerned with the Rock Machine's side of things in the Quebec biker war, which is precisely the same editing style of CanadianHistorian, who appears in some way to be associated with the Rock Machine.


 * The IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:A529:521E:2063:4DF1 is a cellphone account from Toronto. This IP has edited the Annihilators Motorcycle Club, which is a subject that fascinates CanadianHistorian. See this edit here from February . It is worth reproducing CanadianHistorian's sentence from this edit here because he cannot write at a professional level of English and it is very typical of his writing style: "The annihilator's motorcycle club that is certainly larger than this articles information when it indicate however more legitimate sources are needed there are lots of articles and clippings in local newspapers but they need to be turned into a way to be legitimately sourced perhaps then a page can be created. As yes the dirt bags are the focus of this article but there is other chapters that were not as insane including the mother chapter of the club in Richmond Hill." It is worth comparing this sentence to some of the examples of the writing style of the various IPs from London and Toronto which keep editing biker-related articles in precisely the same writing style. By way of comparison, see this edit by the the IP 2605:8d80:6e2:8fa7:a529:521e:2063:4df1, which features thse sentences: "On March 12, 1992. As a part of a crackdown on the Outlaws and their support club the Annihilators, London Police, along with members of the Canadian Armed Forces from the Wolseley Barracks(called in for the use of their metal detectors) launched a series of raids dubbed Operation Bandito. Police targeted the Outlaws MC chapter in London, their support club the Annihilators MC which was located in nearby St. Thomas at the time was also raided...Authorities had been aided by Micheal Simmons, he was related to the President of the Outlaws London chapter and had sought out London Police Service to deliver an offer of becoming an informant. The London Police Service was extremely surprised by this but immediately accepted his offer and gave him a list of 12 individuals that they wanted him to gather information on. Simmons began preparing himself to prospect for the Outlaws, he used his influential position as the president's brother to gain trust with the club's members, as they showed him a great amount of respect due to his blood connection". It is precisely the writing style.
 * This IP provides no edit summaries, but the writing style is precisely the same as CanadianHistorian's writing. CanadianHistoiran usually has run-on sentences with commas frequently inserted, giving them a rather disjoined style. Compare this edit by the IP with these sentences by CanadianHistorian, , and . It is the same disjoined writing style. The IP  2607:FEA8:2B20:C7A0:5599:96C0:C93E:1626 is from London, Ontario and again edits via a cell phone. This page had edited the articles Rock Machine Motorcycle Club, Annihilators_Motorcycle_Club and American Indian Wars. The edit summary  "Couldn't find reference to this" sounds similar to CanadianHistorian's edit summaries such as this one  "Added references". The IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:936:FF59:220A:C277 is again a cellphone account from Toronto and the only article has edited is the Quebec Biker war, which is an article that CanadianHistorian has very heavily edited. The IP uses bare URLs as references and has the same disjointed writing style, see here  and here.


 * Again, as one can see from this edit, this IP has the same disjoined writing style as CanadianHistorian and the IP does adds a bare URLs as a references , which is typical of CanadainHistorian. See these edits here as an an example of his tendency to add bare URLs as references , and . The IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:98C4:39B1:1361:E798 edits from a cellphone in Toronto, and the one article this IP has edited is Manitoba Warriors, which CanadianHistorian has often edited in the past. The one edit by this IP is this , which again as a bare URL as a reference and has the sentence "The Rock Machine Motorcycle Club began recruiting from the Warriors." All of CanadianHistorian's edits to that article are only about the Rock Machine's supposed relationship to the Manitoba Warriors and nothing else, see here as an example.


 * I know everybody is very busy because sock puppetry is such a problem, but this has been an on-going problem ever since CanadianHistorian was blocked back in April. This editor has no intentions of abiding by the block and he is not going to stop. It might be worthwhile to auto-protect the articles that CanadianHistorian likes to edit for a year or so. Thank you for your time and patience. Best wishes!--A.S. Brown (talk) 17:34, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This IP 2605:8D80:6E2:8FA7:E203:3BD0:26F7:D451, which edited here on the 15th of this month is restoring the edits done by the IPs. Besides for the same writing style,, this editor uses bare URLs and edits from a cellphone, which appears to be based in Toronto. For the evidence, see here: . Thank you for your time and patience. --A.S. Brown (talk) 08:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * . Please, consider soft-blocks on and . The wideness of the ranges is quite conservative. Given their stickiness, I'd suggest a term between 1 and 3 months. I'm ignoring the single IPv4 address for now since it has not been recently active. A patrolling admin might want to look at page protection targets here.: If disruption continues, you might request page protection at WP:RPP. Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 19:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . firefly  ( t · c ) 17:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) was blocked in April of last year, and has been engaged in block evasion, mostly as IP, ever since as anyone willing to look at the past investigations will soon notice. This editor edits entirely from a cell phone from London, Ontario area. According to CanadianHistorian in this edit, London, Ontario is where he lives. CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) almost exclusively edited articles related to outlaw bikers and MMA fighters. All of these IP accounts are cell phone accounts based in London, Ontario. The articles these IP accounts have edited are Quebec Biker War, Rock Machine Motorcycle Club, List of gangs in Canada, UFC Hall of Fame, Gennaro Raso, Loners Motorcycle Club, Soa Palelei, Rock Machine MC criminal allegations and incidents, and List of outlaw motorcycle club conflicts-all of which relate to outlaw bikers or MMA fighting.

I do not mean this as a personal attack, but CanadianHistorian cannot contribute at a professional level of English. Sentences written by this editor are frequently ungrammatical and run-on. See here:, ,, , and as just a few examples out of many. Compare this edit by one of these London-based IPs, which features the following: "Jerry Langton stated in 2006 that the reason Lenti left the country was due to a internal issue within the Loners. Which got him temporarily removed, when he returned to Canada, he rejoined the Satan's choice for almost 3 years. Lenti's second second run with Satan's Choice was "rough time there", as he had several issue with fellow members. This would cause him to leave and reestablish the Woodbridge Loners in 1984.". And this edit which features lines such as "Despite langton's claims of their "internet status", several high-profile incidents and investigations by law enforcement against their organizations have occurred in the years proceeding the conflict." And this edit by the IP, which features the following: "In 2002, Project Amigo had led to the arrest of many Ontario and Quebec Bandidos/Rock Machine. In 2003, they were forced to agree to a deal due to pressure from the Hells Angels, that they would retire from crime and discontinue any association with the Bandidos MC. Alex Caine, a Private investigator, had been keeping a close eye on the subject, also spoke with the Ottawa Citizen, he was told by the Rock Machine that it was these individuals that initially brought about the rebirth of the club". There is a strong fanboy quality to the writing about the Rock Machine by these along with attacks on the journalist Jerry Langton and the use of Alex Caine as a source, which dovetails well with CanadianHistorian's past editing on the same articles. In terms of editing style, interests, and stylistic grounds, these IPs appear to be sock puppets for CanadianHistoiran. --A.S. Brown (talk) 06:36, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * I've fixed the formatting of the June 6 filing, as part of my SPI clerk training. As previously mentioned by : to avoid issues like this, please consider making future filings with either the filing wizard at the top of WP:SPI (inside the collapsing "How to open an investigation" box), or with Twinkle's ARV menu. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:44, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @A.S. Brown: I've removed the tags you placed on the IP user pages. Only blocked accounts  should usually be tagged (see WP:HSOCK), and it is often considered best to leave this task to administrators and SPI clerks. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I've blocked for 6 months as it seems to have been in use by only CanadianHistory for over a year. Also blocked  for two weeks. Left  as stale since there's no indication CH will return to it. Closing. DatGuyTalkContribs 08:50, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I believe these accounts are sockpuppets of CanadianHistorian(MMA & History), who was banned in April of 2022. This user edits almost exclusively articles relating to Canadian biker gangs, and the Rock Machine gang in particular. The user appears to have a vested interest in the Rock Machine. For example, the user wants Wikipedia articles to state that the Rock Machine did not lose a gang war against the Hells Angels despite all sources stating otherwise. These accounts (Mc1813, LinkRot67, and Crimetimereader) all joined within a short time period of each other (between September and November of 2022), usually edit using a mobile phone, seem to almost exclusively edit the same articles, and have a similar style of writing.

Some diffs: ,, , Shaolin Punk (talk) 14:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I would like to second that. All of these accounts appear to be sockpuppets. CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) appears to be associated in some way with the the Rock Machine and he has been engaged in block evasion literally within minutes of being blocked back in April 2022. All these accounts edit via a cell phone and CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) always edits via a cell phone.


 * CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) has a very distinctive writing style that consists of disjoined and badly written sentences. All of these accounts have the same writing style. Here is one example of CH's writing style where he wrote: "The Hells Angels had been badly weakened by the Lennoxville massacre on 24 March, 1985, when five members of the Angels' chapter in Laval were shot by their colleagues, afterward the vacuum was filled by a number of Montreal-based organized crime groups most prominent being the Rock Machine, and it was not until the early 1990s that the Angels became a major force in Montreal organized crime again". And this one  where he wrote: "On May 19,1997. Prominent Rock Machine member Serge Cyr was placed under arrest and charged with conspiracy along with 13 others including members of the Rock Machine, Pelletier Clan and Palmers to murder Hells Angels president Maurice "Mom" Boucher. In 1994, a stolen van loaded with  explosives was discovered outside the Cri-Cri restaurant on St. Catherine  street, the restaurant was an establishment that Boucher often ate  at. Cyr was released soon  after, with  the  condition that he would report to police once a week, which he never did Cyr gained reputation from this and after the December 2000 arrests, he was promoted to President of the Montreal chapter." And this edit by CanadianHistorian  where he wrote: "The Rock Machine expansion west occurred in late 2008, since the clubs reform in Ontario under Sean Brown, he had given permission for a chapter to be formed in Australia sometime in early 2008. Two members of The Rock Machine Perth chapter out of Australia were arrested at the Winnipeg airport in September of 2008, they were in Manitoba on on request of the already established mother chapter, to help set up a chapter in Winnipeg, they were extradited back to Australia".
 * Compare that with these edits by Mc1813 like this one "Just before the Rock Machine became full-fledged members they established a new support club for the incoming Bandidos. In 2000, the Rock Machine had absorbed both chapters their support club, the Palmers so that it's members could also become Bandidos. The new club was known as the Killers Beez MC, when the Rock Machine patched over to the Bandidos it instantly fell under their control. Some of its members would be involved in the 2002 crackdowns". And this edit  where he wrote: "By this point, the Rock Machine MC were seriously looking to align itself with longtime Hells Angels rivals the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, they had made several failed attempts to do so in 1997. During 1997, Michael “Mick” Kulakowski, who was president of the Bandidos Australia had traveled to Quebecto talk about the possibility of the Rock Machine joining, the meeting was positive." Consider this edit by  where Crimetimereader wrote: "The Bandidos MC is estimated to have a membership of over 5,000 members world-wide, and with more than 303 chapters in more than 22 countries, the Bandidos is one of the largest outlaw motorcycle clubs in the world".  And this edit by LinkRot67  where he wrote: "In December 2019, it was rumoured that Liberal Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau had been sighted in the company of members of the Rock Machine Motorcycle Club in Montreal, Quebec. There had been a video posted to YouTube, that supposedly showed Mr. Trudeau partying with Rock Machine members and stripper's in his hometown". It is precisely the same abysmal writing style in all these cases.


 * And note also that CanadianHistorian was often in trouble for copying text from other articles without attribution, which led to frequent complaints on his talk page. See here for an example . And likewise, here is a complaint that Mc1813 copied text from another article without attribution here . Note the responses in both cases are similar. I would venture that these editors are one and the same person and that a checkuser is in order. --A.S. Brown (talk) 05:03, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * The following are ✅; all were already blocked but no result was posted here.
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC)