Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cdo2017/Archive

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Obvious sock from name, created after master account was temporarily blocked. Making nonconstructive edits Vinegarymass911 (talk) 04:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Cabayi (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * - Clearly trying to avoid the taint of a recent block. Please indef the sock & 3 months (based on 1 month previous block) for the master. Cabayi (talk) 10:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Editing the same pages on special forces of Bangladesh (almost exclusively) Creating and adding poorly sourced and promotional content The username is in theme, a loose connection to special forces Cdo2017, created a sock in the past, Cdo2019, and edited similarly Vinegarymass911 (talk) 12:21, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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I'm not sure if this is applicable here, but both Cdo2017 and ParaCheetha upload facebook images on wikimedia commons while claiming the images as their own work. Same style of uploading. Cdo2017 (the master) was warned once for multiple copyviolations. —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 12:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


 * ParaCheetha's edits are not beneficial, but might not be sockpuppetry. There is overlap with Cdo2017 in articles edited, but I don't see overlap in content or style. ParaCheetha's edits tend to be large unexplained removals of sourced content or large additions of excessively detailed or poorly sourced content, neither of which was typical of Cdo2017. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:09, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * - Given previous history of socking but inconclusive behavioral evidence, I think it might help to clear it up before taking action. –Darkwind (talk) 08:35, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This case is . CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No action taken. Cdo2017 hasn't edited since before their 3 month block back in March anyway, and as Worldbruce mentioned, the editing style is sufficiently different that it might be different people. Marking for closure. –Darkwind (talk) 04:02, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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Master and puppets focus narrowly on articles about special forces, especially Bangladeshi paratroopers. Overlap includes Para-Commando Brigade (Bangladesh), Special Warfare Wing, Bangladesh special operations forces, and School of Infantry and Tactics. Their contributions are very poorly sourced, often citing unreliable sources or citing reliable ones that are only tangentially related and so fail verification.

Take, for example, the puppet's recently created Bangladesh Army Para-Commando Bravet. Its first source, Roar Media, is user-generated, not a reliable source. Its last is an Amazon fashion page selling a patch that in no way supports the statement where cited. In between are some reliable-sounding sources, but they fail verification. A few samples: -- Worldbruce (talk) 02:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * mentions Major Ahsan Ilahee in passing, but doesn't mention the "bravet", much less say when it was created or that he designed it.
 * Despite the WP:CITEBOMBING, and  say nothing about retroactive awards of the badge.

There is an obvious similarity in usernames, from Cdo2017 (long term abuse), through Cdo2019 (blocked sock), to Cdo bd para (sock suspect). The three are among the top ten editors of Para-Commando Brigade (Bangladesh), and cdo is a common abbreviation for commando, so might the similarity be an innocent common interest?
 * Similar usernames

Fifteen Wikipedia accounts begin with the word Cdo (in other words "Cdo" followed by a space, camel-cap, or number, as opposed to "Cdo" seeming to be part of a larger whole like Cdoakley or Cdoc20). Five of those 15 have edited military topics.

Many countries have forces they call commandos. Estimating the interest in editing articles about a particular country's commando forces based on the size of those forces and the monthly page views of the English Wikipedia from those countries, one would expect that three of the five would focus on the US, one on the UK, and one on India. Indeed, an editor choosing a Cdo username because they were interested in commandos would be considerably more likely to edit articles about Australian, Singaporean, South African, Pakistani, or New Zealander ones than Bangladeshi ones.

Yet of the five, two have made a total of three edits to US military topics, and Cdo2017, Cdo2019, and Cdo bd para have together made a total of 840 edits to Bangladeshi military topics (plus 1 edit to an Indian military topic, and a about a dozen other edits to a Bangladeshi politician and two Bangladeshi actresses). This strongly suggests that the similarity in username is because they are the same person, not because three different people, all very interested in editing articles about Bangladeshi special forces, all happened to choose similar names. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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Seems like pure coincidence to me. Better to leave a sock than ban an innocent user. The creeper2007 Talk! 22:14, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your question. I'm no expert on the administrator side of things. In March 2019, when sockpuppet Cdo2019 was indefed, I don't really understand why master Cdo2017 was blocked for only 3 months. The master resumed editing in January 2020, but was globally locked in February 2020 for long term abuse.


 * I'm not sure if a WP:CLEANSTART is something the community wants to offer a long term abuser, but that page says "the new account must avoid editing patterns or behaviors that would allow other users to recognize and identify the account. It is expected that the new account .. will edit in new areas ... and will follow community norms of behavior." That we're here, discussing their exceedingly poorly sourced additions, to the same small set of articles as the master, and in the same manner, tells me that they aren't interested in a clean start.


 * They haven't denied sockpuppetry, which I would expect most innocent users to do, nor have they replied to another warning on their user page from another editor. That too would be consistent with the master, who never replied to any of a long list of warnings they were given. To me 's editing looks like an attempt to evade the master's global lock. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:55, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Cdo2017 and Cdo2019 are sock accounts of a LTA and globally banned user জঙ্গলবাসী. Editing/vandalizing military, LGBT related articles, blanking pages, trolling and harassing users on their talk pages (on bnwiki, enwiki, meta) etc. are the few expertise this user has mastered over the years. I've been dealing them for the past couple of years. In the last 30 days alone, we've  blocked/locked almost 50 accounts (last lock few minutes ago). They post same message over and over again on my bnwiki talk page couple of times a day immediately after creating the accounts. You can safely merge these two cases with Sockpuppet investigations/জঙ্গলবাসী. Best, ~ Nahid Talk 07:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * I haven't taken more than a few minutes to look over contribs, but I have a question before I do. Even if they're the same person, would it be a valid CLEANSTART, and/or is it ILLEGIT? Cdo2017 isn't blocked and Cdo bd para has edited only after Cdo2017 stopped editing. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 17:51, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hadn't seen the lock on the master. It's definitely ILLEGIT to be evading that, then. I'll leave this for someone else to review behaviorally, but diffs showing more specific similarities (such as linguistic similarities or other clear signs of sockpuppetry) would be helpful, since you're likely more familiar with their behavior than we are. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 21:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * suspected. could you please take a look at this account and consider a lock? Thanks,   The SandDoctor  Talk 23:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh and also, what is the other case you think should be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/জঙ্গলবাসী? You mentioned two.  The SandDoctor  Talk 23:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Before I go ahead and archive this, could you confirm that everything is done here, or is there still some merge that's pending? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:04, 1 July 2020 (UTC)