Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CeRcVa13/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
CeRcVa13 was banned on 9 January for disruptive editing. Luka imer appeared roughly 2 months later. Both edit in Georgian-related articles.

Both attempted to remove the possible Armenian connection regarding the Nairi more than once  (CeRcVa13's diffs) and    (Luka imer's diffs)

Both users attempted to add the same source (Edge of Empires : A History of Georgia, Donald Rayfield) to the Mushki article, even with information from the same page (page 12); compare CeRcVa13 edits on the 8th January with that of Luka imers edits   - the additions by both users mention stuff about the gods Armaz, Santush and Zaden, and 1200 BC during the Bronze Age. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - --  Amanda (she/her)  02:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 02:54, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
User:Giorgi Mechurchle stopped editing on April 30, 2021 and restarted editing on April 28, 2022. On the talk page of Safavid Georgia, Mechurchle made the same claims as CeRcVa13. User:Luka imer (confirmed sock of CeRcVa13), checkuser was decline. Luka imer admitted to being a sock of CeRcVa13. While CeRcVa13 is stale, Luka imer is probably not. Given the extremely similar editorial pattern (hating Iran's/Persia's role in Georgian history, promoting Georgia, etc.), the target article overlap, and proficiency in English I request a CU to be run in order to link Mechuchle with Luka imer. In reference to sourced content about Iran-Georgia content:
 * Accusing veteran editors of falsification:
 * 1) CeRcVa13: "Or this whole page is a falsification of history." (in reference to Safavid Georgia)
 * 2) Giorgi Mechurchle: "Persian falsification" (in reference to Safavid-Georgia related content)
 * Referring to users as "Iranians":
 * 1) CeRcVa13: "are you kidding me? If you are Iranian?" (on Safavid Georgia)
 * 2) Giorgi Mechurchle: "Help me, Iranian users are..." (in reference to him not being able to make disruptive edits on Iran-Georgia related content)
 * Usage of the emoticon ":D":
 * 1) Luka imer: google translate)
 * 2) Giorgi Mechurchle:
 * Hating the fact that eastern Georgia was a province of the Safavids:
 * 1) Giorgi Mechurchle: "Eastern Georgia is presented as a province of the Safavids (such an administrative-territorial unit has never existed" (google translate)
 * 2) CeRcVa13: " One can easily verify why Georgia was not a province of Iran. "

- LouisAragon (talk) 16:42, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Luka imer is ✅ to CeRcVa13. Giorgi Mechurchle is ; same country, but that's about it.  I see Giorgi is currently blocked for 2 weeks for disruptive editing.  I'll leave it at that and close this. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:23, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
user "Colchians", a brand new user with a Georgia-related username, started editing obscure Georgia-related articles that are of specific interest of the sockmaster straight away, in the exact same fashion. They are also aware of making advanced edits and of the revision history of articles. - LouisAragon (talk) 20:24, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Luka imer (CU blocked sock): added Donald Rayfield sources to the subject status in the infobox of the Kingdom of Iberia sources
 * Colchians: tidied up the original Rayfield refs added by Luka imer on the exact same spot in the infobox of the same article

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 * I can't quite get to confirmed, but Colchians is . -- RoySmith (talk) 20:35, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Taking another look at this, blocking as suspected. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same stance of fixating on Colchis, same stance of citing Donald Rayfield over and over, same stance of nullifying Georgia's intimate historic connections to Iran/Persia, etc. In their third edit to Wikipedia, brand new user "Uchagagnidze24" (notice the Georgian suffix -dze) literally proclaimed that they wanted to restore (!) the edits made by the (now rangeblocked) IP sock range of CercVa13.

At Diauehi, another favourite article of CercVa13 and co, user Uchagagnidze24's first edit to Wikipedia was made wherein he reverted a revision that his 185.xx IP sock tried to revert earlier on (but was put a halt to). Looking at the compelling evidence, and the fact that these are some rather obscure articles, it is painfully clear that user "Uchagagnidze24" is yet another CercVa13 sock being used to disrupt this topic area. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * CU is not much use here. There's nothing non-stale to compare the accounts to. All the IPs are within 185.115.0.0/20 which is already blocked by for other reasons; there's far too much collateral to consider a hard block. I'm happy to block the account based on behaviour alone. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  19:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Spicy (talk) 20:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)