Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chace Watson/Archive

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Evidence submitted by Kww
Chace Watson was blocked for repetitive copyright violations in Corbin Bleu. Rodhullandemu later blocked Nick835 as a sock of Chace Watson without going through SPI, a block with which I fully concur. After I reverted Nick835's edits, Jimmy982 restored them all and continued expanding on the edits. I think the identity is pretty obvious, but wanted to request checkuser one time before everything on Chace Watson goes stale. Serves to confirm the trail, and save evidence for what looks to be a long haul of sockpuppeting.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Added Robert Johansson based on user page created by identified sock.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Blocked here too. Rodhull  andemu  00:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * It's old, but behaviourally, is a classic WP:DUCK. Found him while cleaning the copyright violations out of Corbin Bleu.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Rodhull  andemu  16:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * For the record, I have no idea what to make of this edit.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * He quite usually "borrows" other editors' user pages, presumably to add an air of verisimilitude and perhaps to pretend he's somebody else. Rodhull  andemu  16:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, he also do this crosswiki, it:Utente:Seth William Scott e.g. --Martin H. (talk) 00:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Rodhullandemu
Jimmy982 is already blocked on Commons as a sockpuppet of User:Chace Watson here but we need to flush out any sleepers. Rodhull andemu  16:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users
I came across Nick835 a few days ago, and after initially trying (without success) to help him understand the problem with the images I realized that he had been blocked at Commons as a sock. I asked Rodhullandemu to look into it since he had previously dealt with Chace Watson. I just saw the new activity of at Corbin Bleu, and was about to file a report here myself, but I see that Kww beat me to it. Obvious sock is obvious, but there could be more sleepers. , a CU at commons who dealt with Chace Watson et al there, may be able to add more insight. Wine Guy ~Talk  17:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The block on Commons is based on Checkuser evidence, given that he appeared there frequently with uploading some blatant copyright violations the ranges where frequently checked. Any information regarding IPs, UA and accounts can be requested by CUs via email. On the other hand this is not required, all information (3 ranges, UA) was sent by me to the CU-l on January 4, 2010, ~5:11 UTC, the data not changed since then, only the number of commons:Category:Sockpuppets of Chace Watson increased. --Martin H. (talk) 18:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * All socks identified at Commons have been added here. Wine Guy  ~Talk  19:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, was just about to do that myself, I'll go through them now and block any stragglers. Rodhull  andemu  19:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Add User:Rachel Blanchard and User:Mo7taref, new user on Commons. --Martin H. (talk) 19:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by &mdash;Kww(talk) 16:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

. Chace Watson is almost, so this needs a CU quick. Tim Song (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Jimmy982 blocked and tagged. Tim Song (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All SUL'd socks blocked at commons are now blocked on enwiki as well. Tim Song (talk) 19:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All remaining accounts blocked and tagged. These accounts are all coming from other wikis, probably commons, so there's not too much to be done here. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 17:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Kww
Edits to pretty much clinch it: favorite haunt of previous Chace Watson socks such as Jimmy982, Nick835, and Dmwsjkook. Requesting checkuser because Chace is such a prolific socker that a sweep is order. Account is already blocked on commons as a Chace Watson sock.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Added Besssss because the account is blocked on commons as a Chace Watson sock.

Comments by other users
I find their recent contributions to Corbin Bleu surprising. Their former contributions in discussions on their and my talkpage and e.g. on Tom Kaulitz seem to indicate a user who has only little knowledge of English and of Wikipedia - makes me think of a compromised account that is now used by someone else (weak password?). Hope this helps, BNutzer (talk) 21:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's extremely literate, but that's because it's all copyrighted material. That's the impression I've gotten throughout this mess: someone with such weak English that they can't edit and summarize the material they add, and may not even comprehend the warnings they receive telling them that contributing copyrighted material is unacceptable.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Rodhull  andemu  13:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by &mdash;Kww(talk) 16:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The contribution history from today/block on commons is pretty damning, but given what happened three weeks ago I agree that another check is warranted. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 19:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

. Nothing found. --Deskana (talk) 03:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Rodhullandemu
Adding copyrighted material to Corbin Bleu, adjusting other articles to give Bleu priority, and placing unlikely user boxes on User page, e.g claims to be a native English speakers, and produces this. Rodhull andemu  21:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users

 * Concur. It has gotten to the point that the only editors of Corbin Bleu are socks of Chace Watson.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Edits since I filed this report make it plain to me at this is obviously User:Chace Watson. Therefore, I have blocked the account and see no reason to waste any more time on this. Rodhull andemu  22:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Closing; user blocked and tagged appropriately. NW ( Talk ) 22:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Kww
User page created with list of false Babel boxes (this time claiming expertise in Spanish and English). Edits to Tokio Hotel and the ever favorite Corbin Bleu. Cut-and-paste IMDB copyright violations (see Justin Martin (actor)). Misbehaving on commons, where he has already been blocked as a Chace Watson sock.&mdash;Kww(talk) 13:31, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Already blocked and tagged, just doing the paperwork.&mdash;Kww(talk) 13:31, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Kww
User page claims a Dubai location, focus on Corbin Bleu. It's been nearly a year since anyone that wasn't a Chace Watson sock has made a significant edit to Corbin Bleu, and FOX BC doesn't seem to be the exception.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Already blocked and tagged. Just doing the paperwork.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets


These are both confirmed sockpuppets on Commons of Chace. Also note that here you can see Chace blanking the page of their sock. Also note User:Dark Genie 90 is interested in their usual subjects. -- B s a d o w s k i 1   01:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * To check for any more sleepers. -- B s a d o w s k i 1   01:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * For what it is worth, the above are confirmed socks on commons. Additionally, Chace is very active there. I have extensive CheckUser evidence if needed. Tiptoety  talk 01:40, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ No apparent sleepers. -- Avi (talk) 18:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All blocked/tagged. Closing, Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 19:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Kww
The fascination with Corbin Bleu is a good sign in and of itself, as no significant edits have been made to Corbin Bleu articles by anyone other than Chace Watson for more than a year. I'd block based on WP:DUCK, but I don't feel particularly good about saying that I would block all Corbin Bleu fans on sight, because there may actually be two of them. &mdash;Kww(talk) 19:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
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 * who was previously blocked as a sock of Chace Watson. TN X Man  19:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, reverted all edits, removed all created files and articles.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

19 June 2013

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Chace Watson is an old sockmaster. His normal range of IP edits are encoded at his own private edit filter, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/559 (77.31.0.0/16, 37.104.0.0/14, and 2.89.0.0/14). In this case, it's hard for me to establish the English Wikipedia behaviour pattern for MyCanon, because it seems that the modus operandi here is for MyCanon to upload the image to Commons and Chace to then either anonymously link to it or link to it using one of his recently blocked socks. MyCanon only has three local edits. Chace is blocked on Commons as well, so all of this appears to be a cross-wiki sock festival. Before I go squawking at commons, I'd like checkuser confirmation. It'd be best if this was looked at by someone with checkuser privileges on Commons and English Wikipedia.

I've listed a couple recent Chace socks (Oz Steps and HersheyFan) to help a checkuser, since Chace himself is long stale. A few spot checks for evidence purposes:
 * File:Gillian Vigman 2, 2013.jpg tripped this
 * File:Sasha Barrese 2013.jpg tripped this
 * File:Bradley_Cooper 2, 2013.jpg tripped this
 * File:Robert Pattinson 4, 2011.jpg was edit-warred by HersheyFan
 * File:Miranda Cosgrove 2010 MMVA (Straighten Crop).jpg by HersheyFan
 * File:Liv Tyler 2012 (Straighten Colors 3).jpg by Oz Steps (edit warring, as usual)
 * File:Jodelle_Ferland 4, 2012.jpg by Oz Steps (more edit-warring)
 * Every edit by Holsten990 was to add an image that had just been uploaded by MyCanon

I'd also like to request a sweep. Chace has been particularly active lately. He edits an enormous range of articles, but his focus is quite specific: he likes to diddle around with infobox images and he's a big Corbin Bleu fan. &mdash;Kww(talk) 23:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As an addendum to show what a joy this is, take a peek at his Commons sockpuppet list.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

As an explanation for why I requested checkuser: what I cannot determine from this pattern is whether Chace really likes the images that MyCanon uploads and takes the time periodically to create sockpuppets and edit-war to make certain that they are included, or whether MyCanon actually is Chace Watson using socks to evade his blocks both here and on Commons. MyCanon may be innocent, and it's impossible to tell without a checkuser.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''

Just for the avoidance of doubt, One of the edits reverted by Kww was on Isla Fisher. On that image/edit there was significant overlap between mycanon and User:Keraunoscopia. Keraunoscopia copied the image from flikr to commons, mycanon cropped it, the cropped version was inserted on enwiki by the IP suspected to be related but on many other wikis was inserted by Keraunoscopia. When the IP was reverted twice it was finally Keraunoscopia who came to the talk page to argue for the use of the image. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 23:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain that Keruanoscopia isn't Chace: the difference in English competency is striking, and she's pointed out several Chace socks to me.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not Chace Watson. For one thing, like Kww states, I know how to speak English, probably because I'm American and I live smack in the middle of the US. MyCanon and allies—there may be two people involved here?—and I don't quite see eye-to-eye on a lot of things; see MyCanon's talk page on his Commons page, where I argue (perhaps overly vehemently) about some of his edits. I leave most MyCanon images alone (some are quite fine), but if I do step on his/her toes, it always turns into something annoying. So out of worry of this "overlap" and with some foresight of such a thing as this very SPI, I did leave a note on Kww's talk page explicitly stating I wasn't MyCanon or Chace, just in case; not because Kww was thinking this, but just to allay any worries on my end. I knew full well I would be running into MyCanon and IP users at an exponential rate beginning last month. SaudiNet IPs have removed my images randomly, but I only report lead image changes to Kww on his talk page. Anything else I think is just to bug me and isn't frequent enough to bug me yet. This recent overlap is actually very much because I have connected with a red-carpet photographer, so my uploads of celebrity images have increased greatly, again in the last month. MyCanon's specialty is celebrity photos. That's the only overlap here. On the whole, both of us try to be strangely polite to each other—see both our talk pages over at Commons for examples. I'd be far more specific and give links, but just back from a 4-hour bike ride and am exhausted and rambling. But hope that suffices for now. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 01:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh really quickly, regarding the Isla Fisher photograph, my intent was to crop it, MyCanon beat me to it, and I didn't mind the crop in the end, so I reinserted MyCanon's photograph into the article. I would have to link all the conversations in chronological order (too tired to do that at the mo') for you guys for it to make sense, but I think you'll find my discussions on the Isla Fisher talk page and also on MyCanon's Commons talk page regarding that very thing. It is one of the very few times I agreed with a MyCanon crop. I may as well add that the photographer in question, Richard Goldschmidt, would release his images under a free CC license on Flickr; MyCanon, having noticed my recent uploads of Goldschmidt photographs, added Goldschmidt to his "flickr friends page" (or something—MyCanon explained this to me on his commons talk page), and therefore was aware of these images before I could even get them up on the articles—literally, I would upload the images to Commons, MyCanon jumped on them and added the images to the articles. This occurred with Isla Fisher and Matt LeBlanc, I believe. Goldschmidt and I were not amused, and we now work more privately via OTRS. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 01:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying Keraunoscopia and sorry for any inconvenience caused. I did expect the reason to be something like but felt it was safer to check it out than let it sit. Hope there are no bad feelings. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 04:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No bad feelings whatsoever! I figured I might have to speak up on this page at some point. Apologies for the rambling paragraphs. I'm watching this page and can answer any questions anyone may have. – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 04:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The following are ✅ socks of one another:


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 * I have no way of confirming or denying if these are Chace Watson based on technical evidence as the last case in the archives was from 2010 and all of Chace Watson's currently blocked socks are stale. I'll do some digging on Commons as well. Tiptoety  talk 06:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked last account as being "sock of someone" due to overlap/abuse. Closing as all accounts are functionally blocked. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124; © &#124;  WER  15:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For the record: I've been dealing with Chace for four years now, and in my judgment the connection of HersheyFan, VevoFan, and Oz Steps to Chace is unambiguous. If MyCanon is HersheyFan and VevoFan, then MyCanon is Chace Watson.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

26 February 2014

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Blocked as sock at Commons today, should be checked for sleepers Denniss (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''
 * On Commons I blocked along with, who was on the same IP and focused on the same celebrity Flickr copyvios, re-uploads, etc, also returning to crop many older Chace Watson uploads (from ). Checkusers can see https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chace_Watson.   INeverCry   00:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - for sleeper check. Rschen7754 09:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, together with . T. Canens (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Closing now. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)