Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chg1990/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Their userpages are similar, all voted to keep Serious Truth in the AFD - Articles for deletion/Serious Truth. I suspect these SPAs are trying to manipulate the result of the AFD. The editor  whose username is Z0 02:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * Yeah, pretty obvious abuse of WP going on here. My "delete" comment was promptly removed by Chg1990, followed by three "keep" comments over the next hour by new accounts, each one spouting similar editing conspiracy nonsense. ShelbyMarion (talk) 08:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Talk about sock puppetting, you're part of the Talib Kweli brigade of people who keeps editing nonsense into the Serious Truth page, anyone can go look for themselves someone, multiple people every hour or so, edit the page and put slanderous material in it. One of the people who voted keep is someone I know with a wikipedia acount that I told what was going on, all the other keep voters I don't know. That's not sock puppeting, anyone with a wikipedia account can come and vote. I didn't tell them to, I told them what was going on and they took it on themselves. Does it matter that much to you whether or not a page stays?? I see you only made your page to crusade against people who "dont deserve pages"... do you have a life outside of your elitist nonsense or are you really that miserable? ShelbyMarion(talk)??? Chg1990 (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoktova is the person I know, and I didnt tell them to do it. People know what's going on with this page. How am I in control of someone like that? Anyone is free to come on here and do whatever they please. I posted on facebook what was happening to the certain page, they went on it and found the discussion and voted. The other two, I honestly don't know. The only reason this page was questioned for deletion in the first place is because a large swathe of Talib Kweli fans who have nothing else to do but harass me, Serious Truth and keep editing his page to put bad things in it edited a bunch of bullshit into it and reported it for deletion. Otherwise, the page would be up and no problems would be happening, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The page is legitimate. Even if it isnt an A list celebrity, from here all we can do is gather more references. What's the big deal to you ShelbyMarion??? Chg1990 (talk) 11:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Can we get these accounts all blocked ASAP please? They are causing ongoing disruption on the AfD including making accusations against people who may not have anything to do with anything. Chg1990 has explicitly threatened to keep on resubmitting the article. Some of them may be sockpuppets and some may be meatpuppets but it is is 100% clear that this is a spamming operation (albeit a half-baked one) and that none of them are here to help us write an encyclopaedia. Lets get rid of them all. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not denying I know yuktova... I did not tell them to do this though. I posted on social media what was happening to the page I created and how it is mostly because of targeted harassment from a well known, celebrity rapper Talib Kweli and how hundreds of his fans are harassing me, Serious Truth and others we know because of a disagreement and people keep going on and editing the wikipage to try to get it deleted. The people who brought the Serious truth page up for deletion, was over that. Otherwise, there would have been no problems seeing as it was approved in the first place. People see whats going on, how do I have any direct bearing on people coming to my side?? Because I let people know what's going on? I can provide hard evidence of all of these claims. People see me and Christian are being ganged up on, if a few people come to help out.... how does that hurt me? How does this delegitimize this? 3 other users that were not brought into question upvoted the article as well. The only person who didn't is a person who admits on their page the only reason they are here is to vote to delete pages of entertainers who are trying to make it in the industry. How is that legitimate? Chg1990 (talk) 14:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * If it adds to this at all, I've only known yuktova for a few weeks.. That's not even a person I'd suspect of coming to my aid. The other two people I don't know... At least, not to my knowledge. Chg1990 (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Is it too late to add User:BobinArlington / User:66.30.20.213? This particularly inept SPA registered an account in order to !vote on the AfD but forgot to be logged in when doing it. Presumably either a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet. --DanielRigal (talk) 20:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - In light of this, there's a good chance we might not find anything, but I think it's still worth checking. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * CU results:
 * Irishguy360 and CarolS1957 are on the same connection, but using different devices. If they're not the same person, they certainly know each other.
 * Chg1990 is geographically near the two above.
 * Yuktova is in a completely different location, but given some evidence I can't disclose, is likely someone known by the other(s).
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I somehow failed to notice that Chg1990 admitted above to knowing Yuktova and drawing their attention to the AfD through social media, so if not sockpuppetry per se, this is certainly WP:MEAT. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - This looks like pretty clear cut meatpuppetry to me, as well. Please block Chg1900 for a week for off site canvassing, and the others indefinitely. It might also be worthwhile semi-protecting the AfD. Obviously protecting a discussion page is always a bit dicey, but it's likely to attract more meatpuppets, and unlikely to receive any legitimate comments from non-AC editors. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sir Sputnik - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:05, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
This is the latest in what seems to be a long series of accounts whose principal interest is Serious Truth. Three other near-SPAs were blocked in June 2022 by (for promotion, not socking). I imagine that that is too long ago for CU, but requesting just in case it isn't. They are:

NB The master is not blocked. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A curiosity: several files uploaded to Commons by Belltreelover have filenames starting with CHG – e.g., this one. Coincidence? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:31, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Yeah I did notice this, but didn't think to block this time. I'm not sure what a checkuser can do with this one ... I've protected the draft from moves which should reduce any harm here. Graham 87 12:41, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I was unaware of the existence of this report. Independently, I blocked Belltreelover and tagged the account as a sock of ХорлоогийнЧойбалсан1. I also tagged ХорлоогийнЧойбалсан1 and TomKlics043. I didn't notice Dwigtrortugal1 or Chg1990.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:12, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda (she/her)  20:19, 14 January 2023 (UTC)