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23 August 2012

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This name is Chowkatsun9 spelled backwards -- Chowkatsun9 is the sock of the IP address and there are identical edits in all three cases  freshacconci  talk talk  11:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * Obvious sock blocked, block of original account (?) reset. See also User talk:EdJohnston/Archive 27. I'll look what else I can do, but nothing more left to do here. Amalthea  12:53, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It actually seems like he wants to edit constructively. I'll try to get a discussion started with him. Amalthea  13:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I modified the link to my talk page in Amalthea's comment to point to the archived location. EdJohnston (talk) 22:44, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

14 September 2012

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Opening empty case per CU request. T. Canens (talk) 22:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * is related, the behavoir makes it a stronger case. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  22:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
 * All indeffed. Tagged. T. Canens (talk) 17:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

08 February 2013

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Checked per the evidence [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=537234690#Edit-warring_sock here] and found a number of additional accounts. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * The socks in the archive are, but the two accounts above are clearly the same as Chowkatsun9. The following are all ✅ to one another:
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


 * All blocked and tagged. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:29, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

27 April 2013

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A bunch of new socks created after 8 February 2013 when The Bushranger blocked the previous batch. I am requesting checkuser because of the proclivity of this puppeteer to create sleepers. Most of the names include either "Chow" or "Kelvin" just like previous socks. The main topic interest is generally the Rolling Stones (including songs, albums, band members), but also other musical topics. This guy likes to redefine a person's occupation and musical instruments in the infobox. Please compare this old change to John Lennon by Chowkatsun kelvin, this old change to John Lennon by Chowkatsun9, to the following: this change to Brian Jones by Nanonano27, this change to Charlie Watts by Tsun Kan Chow, this change to Keith Richards by 阿浚, this change to Mick Jagger by Ka Ho Chow, this change to Mick Jagger by Andy-Kelvin, this change to Mick Jagger by Boy Kelvin, and this change to Mick Jagger by Ka Ho Mickey Chow. Binksternet (talk) 19:34, 27 April 2013 (UTC)



Here are more socks, but too old for checkuser. Binksternet (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * I think 203.218.49.158 might be a sock. I have seen a number (no pun intended) of possible socks all with 203 at the beginning (I know this isn't much help, just three digits, but some help is better than none). Best, yeepsi (Talk tonight) 10:47, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. That Hong Kong IP editor performs the same kind of edits, with typical Chowkatsun9 hidden comments such as this one on Keith Richards. Binksternet (talk) 14:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * is ❌
 * These users are ✅:
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:10, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged the confirmed accounts. The IP looks like a duck to me, so I've blocked it for two weeks. Jafeluv (talk) 16:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Done here. Rschen7754 00:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:10, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged the confirmed accounts. The IP looks like a duck to me, so I've blocked it for two weeks. Jafeluv (talk) 16:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Done here. Rschen7754 00:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:10, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged the confirmed accounts. The IP looks like a duck to me, so I've blocked it for two weeks. Jafeluv (talk) 16:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Done here. Rschen7754 00:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Done here. Rschen7754 00:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

12 May 2013

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Many of the same articles; similar inane and useless changes to formatting. Username matches pattern of faux-East Asian sock names. Evanh2008 (talk&#124;contribs) 05:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * Quacks like a duck. Please sweep up the sleepers. Binksternet (talk) 12:26, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * - - Given the historically large number of socks found each time, a sleeper check would be helpful. King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 10:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Named user is ✅. There are a number of other accounts that are a technical match, but since they have no edits, they won't be listed here. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 19:26, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

17 June 2013

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There seems to have been an incomplete SPI on this account in late May. Contributions follow an established pattern of:
 * unhelpful changes that often violate the MOS
 * contributions centering on music articles
 * Asian-sounding username

Articles edited by this user include:
 * George Harrison:
 * Jimi Hendrix:
 * Noel Redding:
 * Mitch Mitchell:
 * The Jimi Hendrix Experience:
 * Kitarō:

I'm requesting a checkuser because this user apparently has a history of creating sleeper accounts. szyslak ( t ) 10:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Additional evidence: Per the CheckUser decline, I have provided diffs for comparison with Andy Tsz Hin Cho's edits:
 * Changes to music infoboxes: sockmaster, sockmaster, confirmed sock. These are very similar to the George Harrison diff provided above.
 * Pointless MoS violations: header date changes by blocked sock, formatting changes by blocked sock
 * Note that this user began/escalated some of his behaviors after the block of the sockmaster in August 2012, especially his pointless and provocative MoS violations and formatting changes. The community ban came into effect in February 2013. szyslak  ( t ) 21:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * CU would be very handy as this user is quite persistent in creating sockpuppets. Binksternet (talk) 12:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with szyslak and Binksternet. This is one of the more obvious WP:DUCK test fails. I think this sockmaster actually wants us to know its them and they are really making no effort at all to hide. FWIW, within an hour of this CU decline, this apparent sock sprang into action after taking 5 days off. GabeMc  (talk&#124;contribs)  22:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Obvious sock is obvious. I look forward to the CU results, now that it's been endorsed. Evanh2008 (talk&#124;contribs) 03:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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No diffs for the sockmaster were provided. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 11:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for providing some clear diffs. NativeForeigner Talk 22:35, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Blocks and tags in place.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ - no accounts that I can clearly identify as sleepers. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

30 June 2013

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No checkuser needed here. IP 218.102.210.135 has settled into a week's worth of the exact kind of edits that have been associated with Chowkatsun9 and his many socks, including IP addresses from Hong Kong such as the current one. IP 218.102.210.135 has continued with pointless changes to the infobox of musician biographies, removing the spacing that makes for convenience in the edit window:. Here are similar actions by previous blocked socks:

I would like to see this blocked editor stopped from disrupting the encyclopedia. Binksternet (talk) 04:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC) Binksternet (talk) 04:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * - - Asking for a CU to flush out sleepers, which are a common theme with this master. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  13:22, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * While I see no technical evidence linking to  I can say that the following are ✅:


 * And of course, with regards to the IP. Cheers,  Tiptoety  talk 19:10, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Closing.  Note that while the technical evidence is not linking these to the master, the behavior seems consistent, so they should be seen as socks of each other, and socks of someone, likely Chowkatsun9. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  19:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

03 July 2013

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With this new name, Kelvinwholoveshide, the sockpuppeteer tells us that this is all just a game to him. The "kelvin" part of the name has been used by previous socks Chowkatsun kelvin, Nustakelvin, Nustakelvin (2), Kelvin Chow, Boy Kelvin and Andy-Kelvin. He is back to his usual tricks with changing infobox spacing and musician instruments.

Checkuser is requested because this guy often creates a raft of sleeper accounts at the same time. Binksternet (talk) 04:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * Clear duck, ✅, nothing else to report. WilliamH (talk) 07:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Rschen7754 07:31, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

19 July 2013

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KWIAFOH has picked up where Chowkatsun9 and all of his socks left off. At the Taiji (musician) biography, KWIAFOH made this change to the formatting of the infobox, which is virtually the same edit as this one from sock Ka Ho Mickey Chow, and this one from the many 218.xx IP address socks from Hong Kong.
 * I am asking for checkuser attention because of many sleeper accounts previously discovered, created by this persistent sockpuppeter. Binksternet (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  18:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  20:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * - to confirm and check for sleepers.
 * The account is a ✅ sock puppet; I can see no sleepers, at the moment, but the guy edited logged out, from time to time. Salvio Let's talk about it! 19:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Tagging and indeffing the sock and closing.

07 August 2013

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Hide with Yoshiki and Fans of most guitarists have picked up where Chowkatsun9 and all of his socks left off. At the Yip Sai Wing biography, Fans of most guitarists made this change to the formatting of the infobox (drastic reduction of spacing), which is the same style of edit as Hide with Yoshiki's infobox changes at the Jerry Dammers biography. Both of these infobox changes are the same as the Taiji (musician) biography changes made by sock Ka Ho Mickey Chow, and this one from sock KWIAFOH, as well as this one from the many 218.xx IP address socks from Hong Kong.
 * I am asking for checkuser attention because of many sleeper accounts previously discovered, created by this persistent sockpuppeter. Binksternet (talk) 16:12, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Adding 218.103.233.9 because of today's edits such as this one by the Hong Kong IP. Binksternet (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * - to confirm and check for sleepers.
 * The two accounts are effectively ✅; nothing else to report. WilliamH (talk) 22:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Accounts blocked, tagged. 218 IP stale at this point. NativeForeigner Talk 16:27, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

22 August 2013

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Same Hong Kong-based IP as many other socks of Chowkatsun9. Same editing style, changing the infobox of musicians. Binksternet (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:31, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked 2 weeks and closing.

16 September 2013

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The new account Kelvin's page quickly resumed the unusual sort of infobox reformatting that is characteristic of Chowkatsun9. Kelvin's page edited Jimmy McCulloch here, removing spacing, changing the occupation parameter, etc. Confirmed Chowkatsun9 sock KWIAFOH made the same characteristic edits to the same article a few months ago. The username "Kelvin's page" is similar to past socks such as "Chowkatsun kelvin", "Nustakelvin", "Kelvin Chow", "Boy Kelvin", "Andy-Kelvin", and "Kelvinwholoveshide". Checkuser is requested to root out any sleepers, which is a common tactic by this persistent socker. Binksternet (talk) 12:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * pretty obvious connection from the diffs shown, in particular the edit summaries and the insistence on the term "songwriter". Endorsed for a sleeper check. SpitfireTally-ho! 13:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Just barely, no immediate sleepers. -- DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  04:59, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've indef blocked User:Kelvin's page as a sock after looking at the behavioral evidence. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing Rschen7754 18:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

17 November 2013

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Obvious name connections with previous socks using variations of "kelvin" and "chow". Same interest in musician biographies. Same behavior, especially the signature reduction of spaces in the infobox (which are there for editing convenience.) Examples by Kelvinchow221: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Walsh&diff=prev&oldid=582050741][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Plant&diff=prev&oldid=582027243]. Examples by blocked sock Andy-Kelvin: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeff_Lynne&diff=prev&oldid=551632991][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Orbison&diff=prev&oldid=551633740]. Checkuser requested because this socker usually creates sleeper accounts. Binksternet (talk) 14:20, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * Extremely to be Chowkatsun.  and  are technically ✅.  NativeForeigner Talk 17:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * All socks tagged and blocked indef. Closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

09 December 2013

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This registered account has obvious name connection with previous accounts, and the same interest is shown in changing musician infoboxes, genres and occupations. This edit by Chowkatsunofficial to the Kitarō bio has many of the same changes to small details as this one by confirmed sock Andy Tsz Hin Cho, with one indicator being the reduction in both cases of the section header from a dated version ("Early life: 1954–76" or "1954–76: Early life") to an undated version: "Early life". Checkuser is requested because this very persistent person usually creates several new accounts at the same time. Binksternet (talk) 16:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  18:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * - to confirm and check for other accounts.
 * Named user is (obviously) ✅, but there are no discernible sleepers. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet tagged and blocked indef, closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:15, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

19 January 2014

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Gibson Zhou focuses on the same articles that interested Chowkatsun9 and the many other sockpuppets: Hide (musician), Yoshiki (musician), Brian May and Tom Petty. He's concerned with the instruments that a musician plays, and the roles the musician fills such as arranger, composer, etc. See Gibson Zhou's [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yoshiki_%28musician%29&diff=prev&oldid=591399232 change to Yoshiki] versus [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yoshiki_%28musician%29&diff=565035095&oldid=564670019 this] and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yoshiki_%28musician%29&diff=564666553&oldid=562113993 this change] by KWIAFOH, a confirmed sockpuppet, with the focus on which instruments and which roles. The most revealing sign of Chowkatsun9 is his predilection for deleting the excess spaces in the infobox, these spaces typically kept in place for ease of editing. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_May&diff=prev&oldid=591406636 Here Gibson Zhou removes] the spaces in the Brian May bio, just like blocked sock Andy-Kelvin did with Jeff Lynne and Roy Orbison: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeff_Lynne&diff=prev&oldid=551632991][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Orbison&diff=prev&oldid=551633740]. Blocked sock Ka Ho Mickey Chow deleted the infobox spaces [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taiji_%28musician%29&diff=552441710&oldid=551406743 here] at the Taiji bio.
 * Note that this editor has been actively using IPs from Hong Kong for many months. I list of recent blocking actions against these IPs can be seen at User talk:Acalamari.
 * Checkuser requested because this socker usually creates sleeper accounts. Binksternet (talk) 17:36, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Highly, bordering on ✅. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Does this mean that there were no sleepers? I've blocked and tagged the named sock.
 * I didn't see any, but then again, I only looked at the two ranges this account was on. His ISP spans numerous /16s. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:33, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you DoRD; closing.

15 July 2014

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Fragrantdahlia focuses on the same familiar Chowkatsun9 articles: Taiji (musician), Yoshiki (musician), Dayo Wong and other musicians. He's concerned with the instruments that a musician plays, and the roles the musician fills such as arranger, composer, etc. The most revealing sign of Chowkatsun9 is his predilection for deleting the excess spaces in the infobox, these spaces typically kept in place for ease of editing. Fragrantdahlia removed infobox spaces here, here, here and here. This is the same kind of action taken by blocked sock [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_May&diff=prev&oldid=591406636 Gibson Zhou at Brian May], blocked sock Andy-Kelvin at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeff_Lynne&diff=prev&oldid=551632991 Jeff Lynne] and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roy_Orbison&diff=prev&oldid=551633740 Roy Orbison], and blocked sock Ka Ho Mickey Chow at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taiji_%28musician%29&diff=552441710&oldid=551406743 Taiji bio].
 * Checkuser requested because this socker usually creates sleeper accounts. Binksternet (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * - Sleeper check. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've run the checks, but couldn't find any sleepers. PhilKnight (talk) 21:55, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:12, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

18 April 2015

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Mlpearc ( open channel ) 04:35, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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Adding the following recently active socks and IPs. Binksternet (talk) 05:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * and ? Don't expect anyone to search through the archives.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * and ? Don't expect anyone to search through the archives.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * No response from either editor. Closing without prejudice. Bbb23 (talk) 22:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

18 May 2015

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Two new accounts, Ipkinwa and Chunyin&kinwa have been registered since the last SPI case was closed with no prejudice because of insufficient evidence presented. For completeness, I have included the last sock, Kelvin-gerry, even though he is blocked, and I have included socks from last December, Withdrawndahlia and Kelvinofjesuschrist because they were not listed here and I think they should be. Evidence to be posted shortly. Binksternet (talk) 23:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The intertwined edit tool shows that the two new accounts have edited several articles in quick succession: Samuel Hui within two minutes, Wong Ka Kui in less than five minutes, and Paul Wong in five minutes.
 * Both new accounts have the common element "kinwa" in the name.
 * To connect these two to past socks, we have to go back to August 2014 at which time the Hong Kong IP 218.102.199.123 left Chokatsun9's signature on the biography Paul Wong (musician), by removing all the spacing from the infobox. Five more Hong Kong Chowkatsun9-style IPs edited this article for the next two months, then Withdrawndahlia edited it in December 2014, changing the infobox genres and adding a list of instruments, along with other changes. After being reverted, sock Kelvinofjesuschrist appeared to re-add the list of instruments plus other changes. Another Hong Kong IP restored the instrument list. Further Hong Kong IPs edited the article over the next months. Here's where the new accounts come in: Chunyin&kinwa restored the instrument list, then a few minutes later, Ipkinwa tweaked the text, and then he apologizes in the edit summary, saying "Sorry. Error." in the same fashion as Hong Kong IP said "Error.", and the same way that Withdrawndahlia said "Error". This connects all the dots.


 * Checkuser is requested to ferret out additional socks, as this person has been known for creating sleeper accounts. Binksternet (talk) 00:55, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Adding Wongsiuhang because of obvious editing pattern, reverting back to Chowkatsun9's preferred version. Binksternet (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * to compare with the other three non-stale blocked accounts. He made edits similar to those of other socks (see:  and,  and ).  and  are stale, but I think they should be blocked. Evidence against them is strong: both changing Jay Chou from "Chinese musician" to "Taiwan singer" , both adding "singer" to the categories at "Wong Ka Kui" .  Vanjagenije   (talk)  23:26, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another:
 * I agree with the recommendation of blocking the two stale accounts, particularly as "Kelvin" is a common component of many of his account names. There is also quite a bit of logged-out editing going on, but otherwise, . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As with all other SPI cases involving IPs from Hong Kong, please would all admins limit your IP blocks to anononly and less than a week in duration to mitigate collateral damage. Deryck C. 14:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Accounts blocked and tagged (including the two stale ones). Most recent (only one this month) blocked for three days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with the recommendation of blocking the two stale accounts, particularly as "Kelvin" is a common component of many of his account names. There is also quite a bit of logged-out editing going on, but otherwise, . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As with all other SPI cases involving IPs from Hong Kong, please would all admins limit your IP blocks to anononly and less than a week in duration to mitigate collateral damage. Deryck C. 14:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Accounts blocked and tagged (including the two stale ones). Most recent (only one this month) blocked for three days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with the recommendation of blocking the two stale accounts, particularly as "Kelvin" is a common component of many of his account names. There is also quite a bit of logged-out editing going on, but otherwise, . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As with all other SPI cases involving IPs from Hong Kong, please would all admins limit your IP blocks to anononly and less than a week in duration to mitigate collateral damage. Deryck C. 14:57, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Accounts blocked and tagged (including the two stale ones). Most recent (only one this month) blocked for three days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Accounts blocked and tagged (including the two stale ones). Most recent (only one this month) blocked for three days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:36, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

18 June 2015

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All of these registered accounts and IPs are interested in the same small group of musician articles, and interested in making the same kinds of changes. Binksternet (talk) 13:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Involved articles:
 * Hide (musician):
 * Yoshiki (musician):
 * Eric Clapton:
 * Miriam Yeung:
 * Eason Chan:
 * Gackt:
 * Paul McCartney:
 * John Lennon:
 * Freddie Mercury:
 * Wong Ka Kui:
 * Paul Wong (musician):
 * Sugizo:
 * Brian May:
 * Taiji (musician):

The diffs show that the various IPs and accounts are the same person who changes categories and occupations of musicians. Binksternet (talk) 13:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Note to Bbb23: Sorry about not connecting this pool to the master or to previous socks. I was rushing through the report because of real life scheduling. Thanks to Someguy1221 for tying up a few loose ends.

Adding newly created accounts Kelvinlandel and Adlerlansingdon. Chowkatsun9 has often changed the nationality of the Bee Gees musical group to "English" though they were Manx-born, and first played as the Bee Gees and became famous while living in Australia. Here are a few examples of past Hong Kong IPs and confirmed socks calling them English: Here's the newly created account Kelvinlandel calling them English: Here's a recent Hong Kong IP calling them English:

The newly created account Adlerlansingdon self-reverted just like Eternalrockmusic, and. Binksternet (talk) 07:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * If you provide diffs connecting the named accounts to a confirmed sock or the master AND you provide a rationale for requesting a CU, you may reinstate the CU request. I didn't look at all the diffs, but based on your comments, you're apparently providing diffs that only connect the list of puppets with each other. That's insufficient.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've taken a look at the two named accounts and consider it obvious they are at least operated by the same person behind the previous batch of socks blocked on June 5. All accounts edit during the same narrow time window from 0600 to 1500 GMT, edit the same articles to the same effect, and use similar edit summaries. Examples from both named accounts and one of the previously blocked and CU-confirmed socks: . The older of these two accounts was created a mere hour after the previous batch of socks was blocked. Definitely worth checking as he tends to operate many accounts at a time. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other and to :
 * is ❌.
 * .--Bbb23 (talk) 14:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to do. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * is ❌.
 * .--Bbb23 (talk) 14:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to do. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

30 June 2015

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Pinkspider1998byckt and 謹慎的大麗花 were both created after the last SPI blocked a handful of accounts. These two new accounts and IP 203.218.168.230 edited in the same fashion as recent Chowkatsun9 socks. Binksternet (talk) 18:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Zhoukatsun was created back in January 2015 but was not investigated at that time.


 * This edit by Zhoukatsun shows the signature Chowkatsun9-style removal of spacing in the infobox. So do these other edits:. Sockpuppet Withdrawndahlia added a composer category here to the Sugizo biography which was reverted, then Zhoukatsun re-added the category here as his first-ever edit.


 * This edit by sock Eternalrockmusic added "radio personality" to occupations and the category of "Hong Kong radio personalities" to the Dayo Wong biography, neither being supported by article text or references. Soon after Eternalrockmusic was blocked, 謹慎的大麗花 re-added the same radio personality stuff, adding television as well.


 * This edit to the Beyond band article by Hong Kong IP 218.102.172.240 added "bandleader" to the role of Wong Ka Kui. This edit by Pinkspider1998byckt re-added "bandleader". Similarly, sock Eternalrockmusic removed a bunch of genres from the Wong Ka Kui biography, leaving "rock", then soon after Eternalrockmusic was blocked, Pinkspider1998byckt made the same genre changes.

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * . No point in blocking IPs as one hasn't edited since June 21, the other since June 28, and they are dynamic. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * . No point in blocking IPs as one hasn't edited since June 21, the other since June 28, and they are dynamic. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * . No point in blocking IPs as one hasn't edited since June 21, the other since June 28, and they are dynamic. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * . No point in blocking IPs as one hasn't edited since June 21, the other since June 28, and they are dynamic. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

5 September 2015

 * Note: two related blocks were issued today based on checkuser evidence. Binksternet (talk) 16:40, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Is 218.102.168.233 (talk) 04:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC) a shared IP? I received a sockpuppetry accusation a few minutes ago and the behavioral evidence seems to match, but I did not make these edits, nor did, presumably, anyone else using this computer as it belongs to a reforestation project base in Hong Kong that would not likely be used by a prolific sockmaster. 218.102.168.233 (talk) 04:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I just realised the sockpuppetry template dated back to 2014 yet somehow I still got a new message box. Please disregard the above message. 218.102.168.233 (talk) 04:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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I don't know much. Binksternet keeps reverting edits as one of sockpuppets. I'm filing it on his behalf. Compare one group to another group  There must have been other sockpuppet accounts, but Binksternet would help out if interested. George Ho (talk) 19:00, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * I'm adding three registered accounts and a bunch of IPs from the last three months. I've been reverting more observed socks for the last year but grew tired of filing cases here. Binksternet (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocked the unblocked accounts and tagged all.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:03, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * All the unblocked IPs are stale, so case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked the unblocked accounts and tagged all.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:03, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * All the unblocked IPs are stale, so case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked the unblocked accounts and tagged all.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:03, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * All the unblocked IPs are stale, so case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * All the unblocked IPs are stale, so case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:11, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

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Obvious per username and same types of edits and comments, eg. Special:Diff/862465961/863792032. Not really trying to hide... IPs have repeated the same edits in the same article, and have both been blocked before as socks, as have numerous others from "Vocational Training Council Hong Kong (HARNET)". IamNotU (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked Kaaatsunnn indefinitely, and the IP's for two weeks. Courcelles (talk) 19:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * After further investigation, I've blocked 202.40.208.0/21 for a year. Courcelles (talk) 19:53, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:56, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Username similar to previous sock, same patterns in same article Ellen Joyce Loo. IamNotU (talk) 14:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  20:01, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Think a CU check might be useful ? -- The SandDoctor Talk 19:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * to the master but no other accounts seen.
 * Close. The SandDoctor  Talk 00:01, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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They've been using the 61.92.198.74 IP exclusively since 2017. Very obvious sock by behavior, changing instruments etc. in Bee Gees and other articles. It was already blocked for two years in April 2018 as a sock of Chowkatsun9. The day it expired they came back to doing the same old thing, and have made many edits since then.

203.85.12.218 also has the same interests and behavior (except the film category edits on 2 June maybe being a little unusual?), and has been used exclusively by them since November 2019. Same geolocation, different network. --IamNotU (talk) 15:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC) IamNotU (talk) 15:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I've added the five named accounts: Beyondfan2010, Ckt20200428, Beyond4ever, Aprayerforbeyond, and Prayforwkk. They are certainly socks of each other, and I think of Chowkatsun9. The names are not the typical variations, except for the second one starting with "Ckt". Also they have not edited any Bee Gees articles. Nevertheless, the behavior is otherwise very similar and crosses over with the IPs as well as previous named accounts. None of them are currently editing, but I'm reporting them for the record, and because I would like to revert their edits along with the sock IPs. I know that checkusers can't connect IPs with accounts, but maybe one could help to connect these with previous sock accounts? --IamNotU (talk) 01:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


 * sure, I can provide more information and diffs, and sorry about the delay.
 * Chowkatsun9 endlessly fiddles and tweaks musicians' roles, instruments, and genres, sometimes udoing their own editing, with characteristic edit summaries like "musician x is (not) known for playing this instrument". They target a unique cluster of articles, especially related to the bands Beyond, X Japan, and the Bee Gees. Socks can be most easily identified by just looking at their overall edit history and crossover for this pattern, rather than one or two specific diffs, but I'll try.
 * IP 61.92.198.74 was already blocked six times as a sock of Chowkatsun9, the last time for two years. Comparing the edit history across the gaps between September 2017, April 2018, and April-June 2020 shows it's unquestionably the same person, with the same patterns as other socks, mainly edits to members of Hong Kong band Beyond:, , , (compare also with the original account: Wong Ka Kui: , Wong Ka Keung: , Yip Sai Wing:  (note the comments in HTML for these) and Paul Wong (musician) and the many edits to those articles by more recent socks, e.g. : , , 2016-2018 blocked range 202.40.208.0/21: , , , etc. etc.) and X Japan members (hide, Taiji, Yoshiki, Toshi, Pata, Heath, and Sugizo) and their respective albums: , ,  (compare with confirmed socks: , , , , etc.), as well as Bee Gees members: , , ,  (compare with e.g. confirmed socks: , , , , and many others).
 * They are about the only person who edits the Ellen Joyce Loo article in recent years, here from confirmed socks and blocked IPs:, , , , , . Compare with 61.92.198.74: as well as Beyondfan2010 whom I'm reporting:.
 * The second Hong Kong IP 203.85.12.218 has the same patterns, editing Beyond members:, ; X Japan members: , , and member hide's solo album Pink Spider: , , compare with confirmed sock  and blocked IP:; as well as Bee Gees: , , , etc., and miscellaneous typical edits: , ,.
 * Neither IP has edited for a few days now, but they are obviously static IPs that have been used exclusively by them sine 2017 and 2019.
 * Beyondfan2010, in addition to the tell-tale Ellen Joyce Loo edit and the Beyond articles, edited X Japan articles:, , , , etc. Beyondfan2010 appears to be the last in a series of accounts most obviously seen in the history of Beyond member Wong Ka Kui, and they cross over with the IPs. On 3 December, 203.85.12.218 made a typical edit & summary: , then continued on 30 December with several more edits and tweaks: . An hour later, new account Prayforwkk continued with the same type of edits for a couple of days: including adding date ranges to section headers as done in other articles: . Two days later, another new account Aprayerforbeyond took over for a couple more days, with edits including again adding dates to section headings e.g.  etc., followed a few days later by new account Beyond4ever making similar edits: . Beyondfan2010 arrived a couple of months later, and briefly Ckt20200428 who has only two edits, but a similar username, compare to Pinkspider1998byckt. A similar pattern is found in Paul Wong.
 * The second Hong Kong IP 203.85.12.218 has the same patterns, editing Beyond members:, ; X Japan members: , , and member hide's solo album Pink Spider: , , compare with confirmed sock  and blocked IP:; as well as Bee Gees: , , , etc., and miscellaneous typical edits: , ,.
 * Neither IP has edited for a few days now, but they are obviously static IPs that have been used exclusively by them sine 2017 and 2019.
 * Beyondfan2010, in addition to the tell-tale Ellen Joyce Loo edit and the Beyond articles, edited X Japan articles:, , , , etc. Beyondfan2010 appears to be the last in a series of accounts most obviously seen in the history of Beyond member Wong Ka Kui, and they cross over with the IPs. On 3 December, 203.85.12.218 made a typical edit & summary: , then continued on 30 December with several more edits and tweaks: . An hour later, new account Prayforwkk continued with the same type of edits for a couple of days: including adding date ranges to section headers as done in other articles: . Two days later, another new account Aprayerforbeyond took over for a couple more days, with edits including again adding dates to section headings e.g.  etc., followed a few days later by new account Beyond4ever making similar edits: . Beyondfan2010 arrived a couple of months later, and briefly Ckt20200428 who has only two edits, but a similar username, compare to Pinkspider1998byckt. A similar pattern is found in Paul Wong.
 * Neither IP has edited for a few days now, but they are obviously static IPs that have been used exclusively by them sine 2017 and 2019.
 * Beyondfan2010, in addition to the tell-tale Ellen Joyce Loo edit and the Beyond articles, edited X Japan articles:, , , , etc. Beyondfan2010 appears to be the last in a series of accounts most obviously seen in the history of Beyond member Wong Ka Kui, and they cross over with the IPs. On 3 December, 203.85.12.218 made a typical edit & summary: , then continued on 30 December with several more edits and tweaks: . An hour later, new account Prayforwkk continued with the same type of edits for a couple of days: including adding date ranges to section headers as done in other articles: . Two days later, another new account Aprayerforbeyond took over for a couple more days, with edits including again adding dates to section headings e.g.  etc., followed a few days later by new account Beyond4ever making similar edits: . Beyondfan2010 arrived a couple of months later, and briefly Ckt20200428 who has only two edits, but a similar username, compare to Pinkspider1998byckt. A similar pattern is found in Paul Wong.
 * Beyondfan2010, in addition to the tell-tale Ellen Joyce Loo edit and the Beyond articles, edited X Japan articles:, , , , etc. Beyondfan2010 appears to be the last in a series of accounts most obviously seen in the history of Beyond member Wong Ka Kui, and they cross over with the IPs. On 3 December, 203.85.12.218 made a typical edit & summary: , then continued on 30 December with several more edits and tweaks: . An hour later, new account Prayforwkk continued with the same type of edits for a couple of days: including adding date ranges to section headers as done in other articles: . Two days later, another new account Aprayerforbeyond took over for a couple more days, with edits including again adding dates to section headings e.g.  etc., followed a few days later by new account Beyond4ever making similar edits: . Beyondfan2010 arrived a couple of months later, and briefly Ckt20200428 who has only two edits, but a similar username, compare to Pinkspider1998byckt. A similar pattern is found in Paul Wong.


 * Unnameduser522 was added by who has given an explanation below. It does look like a lot of crossover, particularly with 203.85.12.218, see this interaction report: . Chowkatsun also edits some articles of Hong Kong singers who are also actors, such as Leslie Cheung, Nick Cheung, and Aaron Kwok, who have all won Hong Kong Film Awards, and director Stephen Chow. --IamNotU (talk) 17:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

, ok, let's do it in two parts then, shall we? I will work on a more concise presentation about the named accounts. In the meantime, can we deal with the IPs? They are very obvious, I'm 100% certain. They've been happily editing away for months now, including today. Can we get them blocked? Or do you need more (or less) info about them?

Five other admins have previously blocked 61.92.198.74, and it's clearly the same person back again to the same patterns after the last two-year block expired, and 203.85.12.218 is the same too. See their geolocations:, and just a couple of examples of Bee Gees edits with the habits of endlessly nitpicking over instruments and typical edit summaries: Compare to blocked/confirmed socks:
 * June 2020: 61.92.198.74 I think "keyboards" can be added as Gibb's secondary instrument for he was known for keyboards on early Bee Gees songs. Also, he wrote music on this sort of instruments.
 * May 2020: 203.85.12.218 Gibb not specialising only in piano but also Hammond organ, Mellotron, Moog synthesiser
 * April 2018: 61.92.198.74 Gibb played a variety of keyboards not only the piano; wrong link (Jimmy Stevens)
 * August 2017: 61.92.198.74 Maurice Gibb played the guitar as often as the bass and keyboards
 * October 2017: 202.40.211.134 (part of 202.40.208.0/21, same geolocation, range blocked here: ):Gibb always played the guitar on the Bee Gees' numbers as well as contributing the bass and keyboards.
 * March 2017: 202.40.211.116 (same blocked range) GIbb should be more known as an instrumentalist. In the Bee Gees' numbers he always played the bass, the keyboard, or the guitar. About singing, he just sang lead in about three songs from the album.
 * September 2016: Welikehk (cu confirmed sock): In the post years of the Bee Gees, Gibb played acoustic guitar in recordings and live
 * October 2018: Kaaatsunnn (cu confirmed sock): Not a famous rock singer and he's at most a pop rock singer.
 * Various other socks: Carsonkelvin, Kelkelkatsun , Katsunkelonly , etc.

The other part of the pattern is the idiosyncratic set of articles, particularly the Bee Gees plus X Japan and its members Hide, Toshi, Yoshiki, Pata, etc., as well as Beyond and its members. You can see this in their timeline and interactions. Does that work? Let's get the IPs out of the way first, and I'll try to work on the others. --IamNotU (talk) 22:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * New user Unnameduser522 has been editing the same quirky group of biographies that all Chowkatsun9 socks have been interested in (X Japan, Bee Gees, Hong Kong singers). Unnameduser522 created a category and then added it to seven of these biographies. This new category was picked up by Hong Kong IP 203.85.12.218 and added to a lot more biographies, This same IP then removed the categories. It's not at all unusual for Chowkatsun9 to try out his ideas and then change his mind and undo them. The IP 203.85.12.218 has also been editing the same biographies as Chowkatsun9 and socks. Binksternet (talk) 01:19, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  07:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I read through most of this, and unfortunately, I'm just not seeing the kind of evidence we need to support a CU endorsement. Part of the problem is that you've given so much information, it's hard to digest.  Could you boil this down to some very concise statements like: "compare  to ", where those edits clearly show commonality of purpose?  I looked at the interaction report and I'm not seeing anything more than a bunch of people who share an interest in Chinese popular music. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No reply in over a month, closing. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 20:36, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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I guess there was some misunderstanding about the previous report, because I did reply last month and nobody responded, but anyway... I'll try again. I'll leave out the older accounts for now so as not to muddy the waters. The IPs are very obvious, and still editing. 61.92.198.74 has been blocked six times already as a Chowkatsun9 sock, and is continuing the same patterns two years later, as is 203.85.12.218. The edits look to be exclusively theirs since 2017 and 2019 respectively. See their geolocations in Hong Kong:, , also matching the previously-blocked IP geolocations, and just a few examples of Bee Gees / brothers Gibb edits with the habits of endlessly fussing over what instruments they are "known for": Compare to blocked/confirmed socks:
 * June 2020: 61.92.198.74 I think "keyboards" can be added as Gibb's secondary instrument for he was known for keyboards on early Bee Gees songs. Also, he wrote music on this sort of instruments.
 * June 2020: 203.85.12.218 Remove the comma, known for being a Bee Gees member more than a solo artist
 * May 2020: 203.85.12.218 Gibb not specialising only in piano but also Hammond organ, Mellotron, Moog synthesiser
 * April 2018: 61.92.198.74 Gibb played a variety of keyboards not only the piano; wrong link (Jimmy Stevens)
 * August 2017: 61.92.198.74 Maurice Gibb played the guitar as often as the bass and keyboards
 * October 2017: 202.40.211.134 (part of 202.40.208.0/21, same geolocation, range blocked here: ): Gibb always played the guitar on the Bee Gees' numbers as well as contributing the bass and keyboards.
 * March 2017: 202.40.211.116 (same blocked range): GIbb should be more known as an instrumentalist. In the Bee Gees' numbers he always played the bass, the keyboard, or the guitar. About singing, he just sang lead in about three songs from the album.
 * September 2016: Welikehk (cu confirmed sock): In the post years of the Bee Gees, Gibb played acoustic guitar in recordings and live
 * October 2018: Kaaatsunnn (cu confirmed sock): Not a famous rock singer and he's at most a pop rock singer.
 * Various other socks: Carsonkelvin, Kelkelkatsun , Katsunkelonly , etc.

Karsonhopachau is a new sock with a typical user name variation (see, and "chau" vs. "chow", etc.) and typical edits about the Gibbs' instruments:
 * Karsonhopachau: Elaborated their instruments played in different phases. Also, Barry Gibb primarily on vocals and guitar, Robin Gibb primarily on vocals only, and Maurice Gibb on bass, guitar, piano and keyboards. It's enough to mention their other instruments played in "band members"'s introduction only., which reinstates a 61.92.198.74 edit from a couple of days earlier:, and compare with similar edits by old blocked IPs and obvious socks: , , , etc.
 * Karsonhopachau adding section headings:, 203.85.12.218 the next day adjusting them: , then 11 minutes later Karsonhopachau editing again: . A couple of days later 61.92.198.74 fiddling with them again:

The other part of the pattern is the idiosyncratic set of articles. It's particularly the Bee Gees, plus the Japanese band X Japan and its members Hide, Toshi, Yoshiki, Pata, etc., as well as the Hong Kong band Beyond and its members Wong Ka Kui, Wong Ka Keung, Yip Sai Wing, and Paul Wong. You can see this in their timeline and their interaction with each other and some recent socks. Compare also with the previously blocked range 202.40.208.0/21.

From previous behavior, there are likely to be other accounts and/or sleepers. --IamNotU (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC) IamNotU (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Named account indeffed and tagged, IP's granted very long blocks given their static nature. Closing case. Sro23 (talk) 01:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)