Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ChronicleBooks885/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

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I noticed the master because after only a handful of edits, they voted at the current RfA. I then asked them about other accounts at User talk:Fort Visitor Across. Their English is not very good, making it a little hard to understand, but the other two accounts they mention (listed above) are pretty obviously the same person. The master and one of the socks were created within minutes of each other, and the second sock a few days later. The second sock also voted at the RfA. They use the same mobile platform, and there is article intersection as well. I think it's obvious enough to block without a request for CU, but I would like to see if there are others, including an earlier master. Bbb23 (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Trying not to attack you, but other two accounts you listed are not the same person. I have my own individual account and I have the ability to find different articles to edit as well as letting other users give thanks and barn-stars to my user talk page. I never did anything incorrect because I am trying to edit articles in a constructive way. Just like other editors, I am a very different person and my I intention isn’t going to ruin or violate Wikipedia policies and essays. The ones that are two usernames I listed, are a lie and a false claim. Because I never contact them to begin with and it is difficult to recognize the alt under a difficult username. Plus, both are here to build an encyclopedia and not doing pets attacks on dyspepsia or other users with special rights. The other account on first, has not been editing since May 3, 2023 due to the fact that they are inactive after considerable amount of few edits and both contribute to separate pages including talk pages and Wikipedia pages. - Fort Visitor Across (talk) 02:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Probably worth mentioning that this person has also edited logged out as: and Which both seem to have some striking similarities in interest with the accounts listed here. The latter IP seems to be used by more than one person though. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 12:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Please see Sockpuppet investigations/ArticleDiscoveries1934.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Trivia: ArticleDiscoveries1934 was created 11 minutes before Fort Visitor Across, so unless an earlier account is uncovered, AD1934 would be the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:26, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Also listed at the other SPI were, and . The filer's comment was Very similar interests - all have made similar edits to Shopping mall, California articles, made comments on world population, and seem to have been active today. I'm hesitant to merge this filing with that one right now because I'm not entirely sure that ArticleDiscoveries1934 is related (I'm more confident about the other accounts). However, I think there are enough similarities between these accounts & general socky shenanigans to justify a check.  to confirm and check for others. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 22:44, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * All of these are ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 23:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - This needs to be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/ArticleDiscoveries1934, and filed under whatever the oldest account is (ChronicleBooks885, I think). I wouldn't be surprised if there's more accounts, perhaps older ones, but that's all I can see. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked them all, leaving untagged for now; please tag once the case is renamed. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - I just found another account, but I need to do a little research before I take the next step. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:38, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This is complicated. I've stuck my original set of findings.  It turns out there's a technical issue which makes it difficult to trust the CU data.  I'll break these up into 3 groups.
 * Group 1: are the original set of users reported in the SPI.  These are still ✅ to each other and I'll leave their CU blocks in place.
 * Group 2: are additional accounts I found from CU.  I'm going to call them ✅ from the above group and unblock those.  If an admin feels that the behavioral evidence justifies it, feel free to reblock as a non-CU block.
 * Group 3: are two additional accounts I found via CU.  Depending on how you want to interpret the CU data, arguments could be made for calling these two anything from  to .  I will unblock them and as with Group 2, leave it to an admin to reblock if they feel the behavioral evidence justifies it.
 * I'll leave some notes in cuwiki explaining what's going on. Regardless of what happens with groups 2 and 3, it looks like ArticleDiscoveries1934 is still (I think) the oldest account, so there will need to be a case rename.  If this is excessively confusing, ping me off-wiki and (to quote Mike Ehrmantraut) I will answer any questions I can.  -- RoySmith (talk) 14:01, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * As before, ChronicleBooks885 is the oldest account.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah I should have been more clear on that. They're in the group of "not sure if they're a sock or not" so the rename will depends on how that gets resolved.  I'll leave that to whoever closes this out to figure out what to do there. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:13, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - I've blocked without tags all the unblocked accounts except TextbooksWorld8 as they have no contributions. I looked at every account, and there's sufficient behavioral evidence for all. I'll leave the case move to ChronicleBooks885 and tagging to a clerk. Bbb23 (talk) 15:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've moved the case to the oldest account, tagged all, and blocked TextbooksWorld8 - compare and  for example. I gather that there's something funny going on with the CU data (school IP perhaps?), but behaviourally these accounts clearly seem like the same person to me, and their denial of being connected to the other accounts and weird, trollish behaviour in projectspace pretty much rule out any possibility that these are different individuals working on a school project or whatever. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Very similar interests - all have made similar edits to Shopping mall, California articles, made comments on world population, and seem to have been active today. I suspect a checkuser will show very clearly this is the same person. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Less sure about Pointway2846, but let's see what comes up. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Please see Sockpuppet investigations/Fort Visitor Across.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * - These are all ✅ to Sockpuppet investigations/Fort Visitor Across and the cases should be merged. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:36, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Merged from Sockpuppet investigations/ArticleDiscoveries1934. Spicy (talk) 21:42, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Handled above, closing. Spicy (talk) 21:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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I'm opening this after reading User talk:Valereee and doing my own investigation. Similarities: (1) the userpages and what they talk about; (2) the trolling at the Teahouse; (3) the customized signatures; (4) the bizarre English syntax; and (5) the emphasis by WikiCoverings that they use the mobile platform, which EnjoyBrowser does not - you can see this on Valereee's Talk page ("also I use the mobile platform instead of desktop") and the edit summary when they created their userpage ("Having a new account depends on what type of device you’re definitely using"). Like, I don't think the behavioral similarities are enough to block at this point. For that reason, I am requesting a CU to sort out whether technically they are the same person and to look for others as new trolling accounts are often difficult to connect behaviorally. Also, the master account did "normal" edits to articles, whereas the suspected sock made only some newcomer task edits, and not very many, which means there's less to compare in that area. Bbb23 (talk) 12:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * or ✅ to Sockpuppet investigations/ChronicleBooks885 via :
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Merging, blocking, tagging, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)