Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cindy10000/Archive

Report date July 26 2009, 19:59 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by JD554 (talk)

Cindy10000 has been editing the Wayne Massey article adding B-sides(diff) and being reverted by other editors. Cindy10000 then began a topic at WT:DISCOG querying the proposed guidelines and how to build consensus. After being pointed to the guidelines about consensus(diff) a brand new user Cdmass started edited Wayne Massey making the same edit (diff) and also arguing to include B-sides at WT:DISCOG(diff). JD554 (talk) 19:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

This is unjust. I have been a long time reader of Wikipedia, although rarely an editor, and so never set up an account. I recently saw that information on the Wayne Massey page had disappeared and so viewed the history and became compelled to chime in because I thought what was happening was wrong. I therefore set up an account to identify myself and be able to effectively communicate my views in discussion. Simple as that. Sure makes a person feel like dissenting views are discouraged. I'm one voice for Pete's sake! How can that create concensus? Only the arguments can do that.(Cdmass (talk) 22:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC))


 * I read the information describing what this is all about and I'm stunned.... Two people agreeing on the same topic.... Tsk, Tsk, how very suspicious.... Better stamp out this kind of thing before it takes hold!... Gosh, two people in alignment might just take control of Wikipedia!!...I say, nip it in the bud, by George!!.......... My sarcasm expresses my feelings better than trying to persuade opinion against this unfair accusation. I have been unable to follow the guideline advising not to take it personally.... Assume good faith?.. Doesn't that go both ways?(Cindy10000 (talk) 17:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC))
 * P.S.... By the way, even after reading everything I was directed to read, I STILL don't understand how concensus is reached and implemented.(Cindy10000 (talk) 18:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)).


 * Comments by other users

consensus : look in mirror  and that is two

sockpuppet : anybody that thinks and disagrees with some british schoolboys and master

most are frustrated and either get locked out or just disappear dealing with this stuff.

Wdl1961 (talk) 23:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

score another one for mr. Scheinwerfermann whatever

he consistently generates a big mess and argues any wiki rule out two or three sigmas

a little detective work and elementary logic and thinking makes makes it readily apparent what you are dealing with

but anybody with more than a couple of thousands edits can not have time for that

Wdl1961 (talk) 14:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

If these users are indeed the same, the sock was clearly established in order to create a false appearance of consensus. It is, however, possible that they are two separate users. I think a checkuser is warranted in order to be sure.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Requested by &mdash;Kww(talk) 16:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * for the reasons Kww mentioned above. The edits look awfully similar, but it's possible that these are different users. CU needed at this point. Jamie  S93  20:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * ✅ Currently available technical and behavioral evidence indicates that the following accounts are related:

-- Avi (talk) 04:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Blocked and tagged. OhanaUnitedTalk page 07:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Jamie  S93  13:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date March 2 2010, 21:32 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Same pattern of editing to Wayne Massey, adding B-sides to the discography against consensus and acccusing others of vandalism when these are removed diff. Most edits were in 12/09 but user edited again this month, so here we are. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 03:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions