Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Claíomh Solais/Archive

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IP has not done AfDs previously. Showed up edit as well as !vote on AfDed article by suspected indef blocked sockmaster - Articles for deletion/Rothschild loans to the Holy See. Geolocation and editing interests match. Intersect contribs - - shows an overlap of 16 article in the span of approx. a month the IP was active - including very obscure articles. Icewhiz (talk) 10:43, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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I'm not going to bother refuting these accusations cause they'll have no consequence for me (an IP check will confirm these accusations are false), all I will say is I was never even informed of this investigations which is very poor conducts on the part of Icewhiz.80.111.42.123 (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * The behavioral evidence is strong - . GABgab 13:53, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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IPs are unable to create articles. Sole edits by Johnny Lean17 are to submit Celtic communism to AfC on 31 July. The article is clearly not a newbie creation (properly referenced and formatted). Following main spacing of the article by Þjarkur, 80.111.42.123 (confirmed sock of Claíomh Solais) shows up and does gnoming and corrections. 80.111.42.123 also reverts challenges to content that Johnny Lean17 authored - diff. Icewhiz (talk) 05:34, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Named master is obviously but the account above is ✅ to . TonyBallioni (talk) 03:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * both Johnny Lean17 and SovietBoy1917 per the above. Behaviourally, I believe that Johnny Lean17 (and thus SovietBoy1917 per confirmation above) could be reasonably linked per WP:DUCK to Claíomh Solais. Closing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSandDoctor (talk • contribs) 03:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

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Lazer-focused SPA repeatedly restoring Claíomh Solais's exact preferred colors (specifically #CE2029) and symbols to Template:Neo-Nazism and Template:Neo-Nazism: ,, and all of edit history.

Claíomh Solais made these edit repeatedly at these article in 2017:  Grayfell (talk) 09:03, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Style is very similar, also. Compare "hysterical emotionalism", to these gems from Claimh Solais's greatest hits: "estrogen induced passive-aggressive", and "anguished physiognomy" Grayfell (talk) 10:21, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * Per behavioral evidence. per previous cases where socks were not tagged. ST47 (talk) 16:35, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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Obvious, based on contributions and geo-location. Just adding this for the record. Jayjg (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

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Yawn, plenty of people edit history articles.80.111.165.52 (talk) 17:54, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Irish history topics, check. Irish political topics, check Far-left politics in UK, check. Joseph Stalin, check. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Previously blocked IP sock geolocated to Dublin, check. Current suspected IP sock geolocates to Dublin, check. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Previously blocked IPsock was blocked on August 18, the current suspected IP sock began editing on August 23. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * In the previous SPI investigation, the IP sock wrote: "I'm not going to bother refuting these accusations cause they'll have no consequence for me". Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Irish people editing history articles? Wow they must all be the same person!!!! 80.111.165.52 (talk) 08:09, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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I don't know too much about Claíomh Solais, so will be informing another editor who seems to be. At Talk:Gaels the question was asked I'll also note that you have a comparatively sophisticated ability at editing for such a new user. Have you edited under another user name before?, but it wasn't answered. The intersect of contributions shows a quite varied intersection, as well as many articles about some rather obscure Irish subjects (such as Ó Maoilriain for example, out of the 25 total edits to the page 10 were by Claíomh Solais) there's also Jewish business related articles Joseph Salvador, Marie van der Zyl, David René de Rothschild, David Garrard (property developer), and Board of Deputies of British Jews, American political organisation National Endowment for Democracy, templates Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Ireland, Islamic terrorism in Europe and Premier Grand Lodge of England. More specifically, there's changes such as this by Alasdair Mac Colla's Ghost to Gaels, adding the Green Sunburst Flag with the caption An Gal Gréine, a traditional Gaelic symbol first mentioned in the Fiannaíocht. It just so happens Claíomh Solais made the exact same change to the infobox here with the exact same caption even including the full stop at the end. Similarly on 1972 Aldershot bombing Alasdair Mac Colla's Ghost amends the lead to add that the person convicted was previously a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain here, a change previously made by Claíomh Solais here. FDW777 (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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On noting the evident experience in editing of this supposedly new user at the Gaels article talk page, I had no particular earlier editor in mind but am aware that some of the changes they had implemented were similar to those made by a variety of IPs in recent months. That their re/introduction of the sunburst flag to the infobox employed an identical wording to that introduced over 4 years ago by the suspected puppetmaster and was last seen in the article last July would also indicate that this is not a new arrival. Mutt Lunker (talk) 00:21, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * FDW777's very clear evidence is convincing as is the article crossover and other things. Blocked, tagged and closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

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The Editor Interaction Analyser report for the master and to a lesser extent the most recent sock show a huge crossover of often obscure articles about such varied topics it's difficult to see how Torchist can't be a sock of Claíomh Solais. Dan Woinsaiker (talk) 10:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)