Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ColonelHenry/Archive

15 October 2013

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A sockpuppet has been posting on the Nathaniel Raymond talk page in the past. The puppets support keeping the page and not deleting it. One was nicknamed Debbie. Nathaniel Raymond attended Drew University (apparently). Both of these two make posts about Drew University. They both make posts about New Jersey. That must mean they’re the same person! (I’m joking. Even if they were, it makes no difference to me. Their argument about keeping the Raymond page is still weak. There was one of these opened for me, I guess to support the existence of Raymond's vanity page, so I'm returning the favor to see how the process works. Cheers.) 0Juan234 (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' This allegation is purely retaliatory, and has no basis in fact. User:0Juan234 opened an Afd for the Nathaniel Raymond article. At the AfD, he has accused almost everyone who disagreed with him of being a sockpuppet. DavidinNJ (talk) 16:30, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi! This sockpuppett allegation is purely retaliatory, and has no basis in fact. User:Green Cardamom opened it because in Afd for the Nathaniel Raymond I have asked him/her and others to provide reasons why they feel that the page is notable, instead of just stating that they feel the page is notable.

I pointed out that it's an interesting coincidence that almost everyone who disagreed with me posted in a span of twenty minutes, while there has been sockpuppet activity in the past  in support of not deleting the Raymond page0Juan234 (talk) 21:30, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This investigation request is a WP:POINTy response to Sockpuppet investigations/0Juan234. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This investigation is a WP:POINT response to people being asked to provide reasons why they think that the Raymond page is/is not notable.0Juan234 (talk) 21:30, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Because we've had the gall to disagree with his suspicious agenda and refused to countenance his hostility, User:0Juan234 has posited the wild and preposterous accusation that several established editors are sockpuppets coordinated against him. The fact that he's continued these accusations here, after an editor raised the issue of his suspicious activity, evinces his retaliatory disruptive conduct. In fact, the editor boldly admits his behavior is disruptive on purpose. It would be to the benefit of Wikipedia if User:0Juan234 and his "associate" User:Blander2 were blocked indefinitely.--ColonelHenry (talk) 16:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Because I've had the gall to disagree with the supposedly "different" editors on the Raymond page, User:Green Cardamom, DavidinNJ, and ColonelHenry have posited the wild and preposterous accusation that I have accused several editors are sockpuppets coordinated against him. (I merely pointed out that there were a lot of strange coincidences occurring, which continues to be the case...) It would be to the benefit of Wikipedia if talk and his "associates" Green Cardamom and DavidinNJ were blocked indefinitely.0Juan234 (talk) 21:30, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I am famililiar with the editing conduct of ColonelHenry and Green Cardamom, the latter being invariably civil (see my talk page). Their conduct is so different that I think it is unlikely that they are the same person. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC).
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 * Appears to be a retaliatory filing based on Sockpuppet investigations/0Juan234. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:08, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Obvious retaliatory misuse of SPI.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I've resurrected this case, given the current controversy, and agree with the original finding. Let's archive this, though -  A l is o n  ❤ 21:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

21 April 2014

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Per this WP:AN report. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:37, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * All three accounts are ✅ matches to one another per, and myself. No sleeper accounts were apparent.
 * Any older suspected socks will be, so if they are going to be subject to a behavioral investigation, a new report should be submitted for them. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 22:43, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

22 April 2014

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Also deriving from, these are the apparent sockpuppets/prior accounts that have so far been discovered. They're probably all stale, but behavioral evidence is pretty convincing. I've virtually never done one of these before, so my apologies if I've messed up the format. —  Scott  •  talk  18:40, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

It turns out that the CDThieme account operated sockpuppets in 2005. —  Scott  •  talk  18:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Suggest an IP check for possible sock puppet User:DavidinNJ .. CH and DavidinNJ both displayed inside knowledge and co-ordination during the Nathaniel Raymond AfD (a New Jersey topic). Not an accusation, just a possible connection. -- Green  C  20:42, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * Just a note: Everything listed is extremely as far as CU is concerned. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 19:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Based on off-wiki confidential information accessible to checkusers, the following accounts are deemed to be operated by the user behind ColonelHenry:
 * (whose edits are very different from the others in this list)
 * (whose edits are very different from the others in this list)
 * (whose edits are very different from the others in this list)
 * (whose edits are very different from the others in this list)

It is possible that these accounts are socks of each other.

As well, shows no technical matches at all with ColonelHenry. There are common areas, but editing patterns are quite different, and they are using different ISPs.

Suggest leaving (old) IP addresses off the list, because any IPs older than 6 months are very likely to have been reassigned, and any from before 2012 definitely have been. Risker (talk) 23:12, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've removed ResearchRU from the list I posted - you're right, its edits are completely inconsistent. (It wasn't one of the ones that I discovered.) You might as well remove it from the above as well and simplify things. —  Scott  •  talk  23:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've removed sock tags from A1900, Lodge443, LoyalSon and ResearchRU. I apologize for the initial addition of ResearchRU - if I had looked at their edits, I would not have added them to the list. BMK (talk) 17:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, all. Moving to close this now; if additional accounts are identified, a new report can be made. Risker (talk) 17:10, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

06 November 2015

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(For short hand, J=JackTheVicar and C=ColonelHenry.)

Casper Shafer

J : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Casper_Shafer&diff=647431101&oldid=647382770 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Casper_Shafer&type=revision&diff=545118955&oldid=542888328

Chidiock Tichborne

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chidiock_Tichborne&diff=679113809&oldid=675502299 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chidiock_Tichborne&diff=592278280&oldid=572209141

Clove Brook

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clove_Brook&type=revision&diff=673171177&oldid=634375369 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clove_Brook&diff=553534823&oldid=544177842

Delaware Water Gap

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Delaware_Water_Gap&diff=687306197&oldid=684974201 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Delaware_Water_Gap&diff=564725001&oldid=563797486

Finn M. W. Caspersen

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finn_M._W._Caspersen&diff=655876002&oldid=655776051 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Finn_M._W._Caspersen&type=revision&diff=600641361&oldid=579904178

(J restored the version created by C)

First Presbyterian Church (Newton, New Jersey)

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_Presbyterian_Church_(Newton,_New_Jersey)&diff=655978954&oldid=650555724 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_Presbyterian_Church_%28Newton%2C_New_Jersey%29&type=revision&diff=599902360&oldid=552945664

Flat Brook

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flat_Brook&diff=676295276&oldid=649428079 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flat_Brook&type=revision&diff=564775580&oldid=531008872

Government of New Jersey

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Government_of_New_Jersey&diff=675976714&oldid=627150783 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Government_of_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=570573591&oldid=556291950

Kittatinny Mountain

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kittatinny_Mountain&type=revision&diff=687306549&oldid=636513577 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kittatinny_Mountain&type=revision&diff=531024547&oldid=523671960

Kittatinny Valley

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kittatinny_Valley&type=revision&diff=669823137&oldid=640070418 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kittatinny_Valley&diff=550843031&oldid=542005031

Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lieutenant_Governor_of_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=646378807&oldid=637032679 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lieutenant_Governor_of_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=581356900&oldid=565362578

List of New Jersey administrative agencies

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_New_Jersey_administrative_agencies&diff=658889914&oldid=643068753 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_New_Jersey_administrative_agencies&type=revision&diff=574885953&oldid=574880964

List of colleges and universities in New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=687924750&oldid=687919111 C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=604674877&oldid=603390878

List of poetry collections

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_poetry_collections&type=revision&diff=672335769&oldid=649900952 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_poetry_collections&type=revision&diff=561572400&oldid=557353969

Lusscroft Farm

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lusscroft_Farm&diff=687646398&oldid=655064581 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lusscroft_Farm&diff=501197426&oldid=501197335

Montague Township, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montague_Township,_New_Jersey&diff=687594534&oldid=679995953 <BR/>C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montague_Township,_New_Jersey&diff=531043520&oldid=526706909

National Register of Historic Places listings in Sussex County, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Sussex_County,_New_Jersey&diff=644110312&oldid=629882949 <BR/>C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_in_Sussex_County,_New_Jersey&diff=503057531&oldid=499396085

New Brunswick Theological Seminary

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Brunswick_Theological_Seminary&diff=671486250&oldid=665897340 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Brunswick_Theological_Seminary&type=revision&diff=574329777&oldid=568116753

Newton, New Jersey

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=664153192&oldid=646151252 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=568870937&oldid=565269232

Newton Cemetery (Newton, New Jersey)

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton_Cemetery_%28Newton%2C_New_Jersey%29&type=revision&diff=641791737&oldid=593392561 <BR/>C: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton_Cemetery_%28Newton%2C_New_Jersey%29&type=revision&diff=559248463&oldid=552944745

Newton Township, Sussex County, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton_Township%2C_Sussex_County%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=660428276&oldid=649437295 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newton_Township%2C_Sussex_County%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=569862857&oldid=569856784

Norman Maclean

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norman_Maclean&diff=683299372&oldid=683216610 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norman_Maclean&type=revision&diff=562488383&oldid=557649550

Oxford Professor of Poetry

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxford_Professor_of_Poetry&type=revision&diff=681931761&oldid=681912244 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxford_Professor_of_Poetry&type=revision&diff=602001221&oldid=567849962

Pahaquarry Copper Mine

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pahaquarry_Copper_Mine&diff=671107100&oldid=590669666 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pahaquarry_Copper_Mine&type=revision&diff=550724670&oldid=508684535

Renée Ashley

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renée_Ashley&type=revision&diff=676098081&oldid=630755053 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renée_Ashley&type=revision&diff=529332592&oldid=528107213

Richard Crashaw

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Crashaw&type=revision&diff=687453087&oldid=654206176 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Crashaw&type=revision&diff=506438311&oldid=504068501

Robert Hamilton (congressman)

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Hamilton_%28congressman%29&type=revision&diff=655978595&oldid=630334853 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Hamilton_(congressman)&diff=553259371&oldid=544809337

Rutan Hill J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rutan_Hill&diff=673200844&oldid=630300389 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rutan_Hill&type=revision&diff=573926592&oldid=544493422

Rutgers University

J: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rutgers_University&diff=674526482&oldid=674522080 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rutgers_University&type=revision&diff=563669469&oldid=563565610

Stillwater Township, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillwater_Township,_New_Jersey&diff=686070604&oldid=684960024 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillwater_Township%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=534200307&oldid=532084668

Stokes State Forest

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stokes_State_Forest&diff=687590717&oldid=678027655 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stokes_State_Forest&diff=544410818&oldid=527244425

Sussex County, New Jersey <BR/>J: <BR/>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County,_New_Jersey&diff=683865942&oldid=683540557 <BR/>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County,_New_Jersey&diff=681962539&oldid=679991650 <BR/>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County,_New_Jersey&diff=674860808&oldid=669045534

<BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=502370457&oldid=501196768

Sussex County Community College

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County_Community_College&type=revision&diff=687417146&oldid=669515959 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sussex_County_Community_College&type=revision&diff=566923801&oldid=545146268

Wallkill River

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallkill_River&diff=668830984&oldid=667249862 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallkill_River&diff=528901756&oldid=528899820

Wallpack Ridge

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallpack_Ridge&diff=676296869&oldid=613092085 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallpack_Ridge&type=revision&diff=550839724&oldid=550838910

Wallpack Valley

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallpack_Valley&diff=669958013&oldid=667038465 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wallpack_Valley&type=revision&diff=561709105&oldid=550840833

Wantage Township, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wantage_Township%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=669041879&oldid=669040613 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wantage_Township,_New_Jersey&diff=550841359&oldid=545800146

Warren County, New Jersey

J:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Warren_County,_New_Jersey&diff=669957766&oldid=663831499 <BR/>C:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Warren_County%2C_New_Jersey&type=revision&diff=543254038&oldid=539815743

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The article links I've provided above show the extent of the overlap between the two accounts in the mainspace. The majority of the edits involve one account expanding or maintaining articles the other account has created/heavily edited. In addition to the articlespace the accounts have a similar interest in file uploads, particularly in regards to historical images, religion (clergymen and chapels), and gravestones. (ColonelHenry, JackTheVicar). I'd like to draw attention to two photos of the same location taken by JackTheVicar and ColonelHenry. The metadata reveals that the exact same camera model was used to take the photo two years apart. In addition to the behavioral evidence, the checkuser data of JackTheVicar has matched to ColonelHenry's data on the checkuser wiki. Finally, there is private evidence. I've offered to provide this to the Arbitration Committee if they need it. <b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b> • <b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b> 04:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

06 February 2016

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Evidence is as follows:


 * Intersect Contribs tool comes up with 14 articles the two accounts have in common, the list being the following:


 * Alcohol laws of New Jersey
 * Atlantic City, New Jersey
 * Delaware River
 * Delaware Water Gap
 * E. E. Cummings
 * Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States
 * Jim McGreevey
 * New Jersey
 * O Captain! My Captain!
 * Ozymandias
 * Punitive expedition
 * T. S. Eliot
 * The College of New Jersey
 * Voorhees


 * There are also four Wikipedia pages on the list:
 * Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
 * Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
 * Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors
 * Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests


 * See Intersect Contribs result here.


 * Intersect Contribs also comes up with an article match for ColonelHenry sock JackTheVicar (Delaware Water Gap) and the same exact Wikipedia pages as in the list above for the suspected sock and sockmaster. See Intersect Contribs result here.


 * A good number of the articles in common are New Jersey-related -- a common article type/category edited by both the JackTheVicar and ColonelHenry accounts.


 * Many of the articles edited by the suspected sock (some of which are not in common with the sockmaster) are New Jersey related.  As stated above, this is a narrow category interest of both JTV and CH.


 * More than one of the articles in common edited by the suspected sock and sockmaster are obscure enough that it would be highly unlikely a non-sock connected account would just happen upon the same articles. Those meeting such criteria are:


 * Glossary of British terms not widely used in the United States
 * O Captain! My Captain!
 * Ozymandias
 * Punitive expedition
 * Voorhees

At the least, certainly a WP:DUCK. Requesting CU and a check for sleepers. Am pinging as being very familiar with this sockmaster and his subsequent socks from a CU standpoint, as well as. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓ 22:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Xanzzibar has made at least one edit every month since April 2004 so is unlikely to be a sockpuppet. The only "evidence" submitted is a list of pages in common - no behavioural similarity - and the edits to the supposedly obscure articles (Punitive expedition is the only one I would describe as obscure) are primarily minor and consist of one edit, such as formatting, undoing vandalism/blanking, and in one case replacing text with a link to Wikisource. The CheckUser request should have been declined. Peter James (talk) 12:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you familiarize yourself with the history of ColonelHenry, you will see that he has operated other accounts simultaneously and has kept sleepers. The case is more complex than the majority of SPIs. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Sorry, checkuser isn't going to help much here. The best I can say is that it's . The geolocation data for Xanzzibar and JackTheVicar puts the accounts 2 hours away, give or take a small margin of error. Any blocks should rely heavily on behavioral evidence. <b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b> • <b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b> 01:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Considering Xanzzibar has been an active editor for over 10 years, it would take an overwhelming amount of evidence to conclude that there is sockpuppetry going on based on behavioural evidence alone. That they also edit New Jersey hardly seems implausible (Mike's check reveals generally similar geolocation, so it's quite reasonable that two unrelated people from the same state might both edit geographically relevant topics). "Having edited the same articles" isn't really evidence, and certainly not enough for a conclusion even close to WP:DUCK. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  15:21, 8 February 2016 (UTC)