Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Craig mack378/Archive

30 March 2015

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Well dilbert is the creator of the articles that craig is apparently a band member of, while the IPs are going around on the afds and one is changing the votes as well! Wgolf (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Need to add this one too who is also a contributor to the craig mack articles Wgolf (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Only reason why that happened was because I found that one right after the other one. Wgolf (talk) 22:09, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * on another note on the articles the anonymous IP keeps on removing the COI and notability tags. Wgolf (talk) 22:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * I've merged the open reports to include . Please don't open new SPI reports when there is already an open one in the queue.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


 * and are ✅ to each other and  is a ✅ sleeper. If  is related to this group it is more likely to be WP:MEAT. . I've semi-protected the AfDs for the duration of the discussions in order to avert any further sock disruption.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  22:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Socks blocked and the master and IPs have been blocked for a week. I'm leaving the meat account alone for now, as it seems to have given up editing the subject material for about 3 months. Mike V • Talk 23:26, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

07 April 2015

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And another one removing the COI tags from the articles just like what Dilbert Grapes always did Wgolf (talk) 00:49, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * I've semi-protected the article for a week in order to help dissuade future socking. If the article closes as "keep" prior to the protection expiring please ping me and I'll remove it. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:06, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Huh? I am no puppet. Wgolf is being aggressive and vandalizing pages! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.70.35 (talk) 23:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

20 March 2016

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See prior case. Like them, this editor is a WP:SPA for Craig Walendziak which had previously been deleted via an AFD here. This editor created the article once today which was speedied per G4 by User:C.Fred today; user came right back and re-created. I cannot see the AfDed version but this user has added the same WP:CRYSTALBALL content that the prior socks did, for example

Walendziak has been confirmed as the writer of A Dying Art with producer David Harris (UnLTD Productions). David Moscow (BIG) will make his directorial debut.

which I believe is almost word for word from the originally deleted article. Jytdog (talk) 04:05, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, the stale is not surprising. Behaviorally, VictorCrowley is acting the same as they did last time around:


 * 100% WP:SPA for Walendziak even adding See alsos like this and this. user is here to promote this marginally notable writer. That's it.  Same thing the prior socks did.


 * Prior socks complained about established editors "campaigning" "aggressively" dif, and .  TheVictorCrowley, same language here and  here and here.


 * The whole "Gee whiz" tone is exactly same. see below for Victor and here ("Wow. I just signed on after like a month. I'm not sure what is going on. Sock puppetry? ...This whole thing is bizarre to me. This shouldn't even be up for discussion? Let alone RE-LISTED two times.")  See below for Victor and here ("Huh? ...Did you just delete the article? Can I recreate something? I'm really confused by this hole situation.") and same dif as above here ("On top of all that, Jytdog  labeled me a 'sock' because I used some of the same links?")


 * That same thing of making statements ending with a question. Sockmaster as above and here {"Saw someone removed half the things? Craig Walendziak is a very popular musician in the hardcore scene. A lot of people know where Craig was born and his wife's name... I'm not sure why Jytdog is so confrontational?") and here ("...Revelation Records and Smorgasbord are two large independent labels - both have their own Wikipedia page? ..."). For TheVictorCrowly see same dif as above here ( I'm not sure what his problem is?") and here ("...Had no self promotion in it, and no COI?...")


 * WP:DUCK. Jytdog (talk) 21:34, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * better late than never! :) Thanks Kevin Jytdog (talk) 04:33, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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I am not a 'sock'. Was not aware of previous fight between jytdog and other users. Rewrote article per Admin's request. I cited the same articles because they were good references. Craig Walendziak is a public figure that was mentioned multiple times on Wiki with no page. Thought I would add one. I followed all the rules. Again, no 'sock'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheVictorCrowley (talk • contribs) 04:32, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Again, I think the reason the above mentioned people said similar things to me is because jytdog is aggressive and downright rude. Just because I questioned your intentions doesn't mean I'm the same person that questioned your intentions before. I'm not quacking like a duck. You are making false acquisitions. Additionally, when you are asking a question you always end the statement with a "question mark".


 * You relisted the article fore RAPID DELETION three times yesterday, even after other editors removed the rapid deletion request. Again, if I'm confused, it's because of your aggression. YOU ARE NOT ASSUMING POSITIVE INTENT.


 * I went to Walendziak's IMBD profile and added his credits to the films on WIKI to make the article more valid. Just like the Five Pillars ask me to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheVictorCrowley (talk • contribs) 00:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've tried to discuss this with jytdog directly, but he would rather make unsubstantiated accusations and delete things. So be it. -- in jytdog's DEFENSE I posted it at the top of his page and not the bottom. Again, I'm new here, I don't know these things. My fault.


 * Can I send a picture of my license to someone? Ha. I can't believe this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheVictorCrowley (talk • contribs) 00:09, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Most the stuff listed above is cherry picked at best. Deliberately misleading at worst. Not even worth responding to. Pure conjecture. He acts like asking why he is doing something is wrong. Or being confused why something is coming out of the blue is troubling. Why WOULDN'T I be confused by this? TheVictorCrowley (talk) 00:25, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * - The master and previous socks are all . There is nothing to compare TheVictorCrowley to.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Admin action needed - I just noticed this case languishing for a month and a half here. based on 's diffs. Sorry for taking so long to action. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 04:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged per request. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)