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has been logging out to make problematic disruptive edits and to avoid the consequences of edit warring using the IP address (88.5.205.1) on the page Flamenco. Cristosdelosgitanos, a single purpose account, admits to being the person behind the IP address here: There we can also see they created their account on August 4th, while these disruptive edits occurred from August 16th onward. The user admits to edit warring my edits here: “but I would ask User:Cwmhiraeth to unprotect the article since I have already stated that I personally do not intend to revert any more edits by this user. I will simply provide additional sourcing, understanding that edit wars through reverts are a wrong way to approach activist users.” While they were using the IP address to aggressively revert my good faith additions in a disruptive way. While we were having an active talk page discussion at the same time, the edits between the IP reverts and their additions to the talk page are less than 30 minutes apart such as here disruptive revert at 15:45, 17 August 2021 and talk page addition at 16:09, 17 August 2021 (UTC) There the user also claim to be a seasoned editor of Wikipedia editing since 2006, which is concerning as they disregard wikipedia policy which raises suspicions about being a previously banned account, that’s why I believe checkuser and checkip would be best. I have warned this user multiple times, both in edit summaries and the talk page, that his reverts violate WP:RMV, WP:Revertonlywhenneccesarey, WP:edit warring and WP:STABLE, yet they have simply refused to follow policy. Per Wikipedia policy, I asked him to keep my good faith additions in the article until we can reach a consensus, however, he claimed preserving a stable version was reason to edit war and revert my good faith additions in the middle of our discussion. Which I then informed him, both in edit summary and the talk page, that such behavior is considered disruptive. Here they once again admit to aggressively reverting my edits with an IP address and threaten that they will continue if I don’t edit in a certain way that they like. Here we can see that his problematic revert as an IP address was undid by an administrator so shortly after he logged in to his account and redid his problematic revert. This user has been using an IP address to edit war and engage in disruptive edits while an ongoing discussion between me and the main account of the user, Cristosdelosgitanos, was going on, In short they were using an IP address in a good hand, bad hand kind of way, the IP address was used for disruptive editing while the main account was used for talk page discussions. The user used this IP address to avoid the consequences of edit warring as they have admitted to above. TagaworShah (talk) 22:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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I don't think you understand how this works. In order to accuse me of sockpuppetry you have to accuse me of being the sockpuppet of somebody not just generally. This is not an avenue for throwing tantrums nor is meant as a tactic to disrupt discussion on a talk page of flamenco and/or RS noticeboard which you fear might not go your way. And no, I'm not a single purpose account. I expect an administrator to impose sanctions on you for this flagrant breach of various policies. --Cristodelosgitanos (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


 * And yes, I edited from that IP. I sometimes forget to log in. That is not "sockpuppetry". Please check the definition of this concept. Cristodelosgitanos (talk) 23:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * How on EARTH is this a "sockpuppet"? It was just me forgetting to log in a couple of times. What the hell? Really? You really think you can manipulate wikipedia rules like this?Cristodelosgitanos (talk) 00:05, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Per Wikipedia policy on Sock puppetry “Logging out to make problematic edits as an IP address” which is what you just admitted to doing, is considered sock puppetry. This has nothing to do with reaching consensus as I am preparing my response along with the uninvolved administrator, and am completely prepared to reach a consensus. However, sock puppetry isn’t allowed.TagaworShah (talk) 00:14, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - checkusers will not connect IPs to accounts., please try to remember to log in. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)