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02 August 2014

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, blocked for Copyvio, had a history of editing on Reformed and Presbyterian denominations, and creating articles on tiny, sometimes non-notable ones. You can see the many speedy deletions at. Cryx88 was blocked on 6 March, and his talk page rights were taken on 9 March. showed up on 10 March and immediately began editing Reformed and Presbyterian denominations. You can see speedy deletions similar to Cryx88 at. What makes me certain is that Cryx88 had a habit of removing a particular section of text from Calvinism, usually with no explanation. On 2 August and 11 August, Calvingabor made the same edit, with no explanation ( and ). JFH (talk) 18:46, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I've also noticed Cryx88 was the creator and prime contributor to US Presbyterian and Reformed denominations. In February the template was redirected to US Presbyterian-Reformed denominations. For some reason Calvingabor blanked US Presbyterian and Reformed denominations in April and then started Presbyterian and Reformed denominations in the United States, to which he has made many contributions since. --JFH (talk) 19:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm adding because his first edit was to undo my revert of Calvingabor removing the Pew Forum text from "Calvinism" earlier that day. --JFH (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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, nice report. I indeffed and tagged Calvingabor based on duck. I tagged the already-blocked master. However, I'm not comfortable blocking Johnfarel based on only two edits. I realize that the first edit removed the same material the other two accounts removed, but it did it with an edit summary, and it's still not enough without something more. Also, the timing isn't as obvious as the other two. I don't believe it's even enough to endorse a CU to see if there is a technical relationship between Johnfarel and the Calvingabor (the master is stale), although I thought about it.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:19, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

15 August 2014

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This user showed up during the last SPI, and I stated then why I suspected him. As soon as the first sock was blocked this one started editing pages which have been heavily edited and/or created by Cryx88 and his first sock. JFH (talk) 19:25, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Some additional notes:
 * Cryx88 and socks rarely use edit summaries.
 * Presbyterian Church in America has been pretty heavily edited by Cryx88 and socks.
 * Korean American Presbyterian Church and Reformed Church in Africa (South Africa) were created and mostly edited by Cryx88 and socks. --JFH (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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Now that we have more edits to work with,, I need actual diffs between Johnfarel and either the master or Calvingabor. Showing the intersection of the articles and even the areas of the articles in which they edit is insufficient unless their edits are similar. Not using edit summaries is common and has virtually no evidentiary value.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:55, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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I'd put this at about 95% certain to be socks of each other and of Cryx88, although correlation with editing is important. (Sorry Bbb23, didn't realise you were reviewing this as I was doing the checks.) Risker (talk) 01:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Bbb23 has already blocked Calvingabor as a sock and I've blocked Johnfarel. Johnfarel (1) and Calvingabor (2) made the same edit as Cryx88 (3). The accounts share an interest in updating statistics related to the number of followers (Cryx88, Johnfarel, Calvingabor). The similar topic interest and the near identical editing styles tied together with the technical evidence makes it clear the accounts are connected. Mike V  •  Talk  13:18, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

18 October 2014

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 * began editing shortly before (Cryx88's last sock) was blocked.
 * Presbyterian Church in America has been a long term project for Cryx88 and each of his successive socks, including Sahzi.
 * Sahzi has edited a number of Reformed and Presbyterian denominations.
 * Back in July Calvingabor (a Cryx88 sock) added the membership number for 1965 for the Presbyterian Church (USA). In October Sahzi added this same information to another part of the article.
 * John farel added some material to Reformed Church in America which was reverted. Sahzi added the material back after Johnfarel was blocked. Like the PCUSA material this had to do with conservative exodus from mainline churches.
 * Here's another edit having to do with declining membership of mainline churches.
 * Strangely, an IP recently removed a section of text from Calvinism. Removing this paragraph has been what gave away all of Cryx88's prior socks. Sahzi then reverted the IP, and then reverted himself, so that the end result was the removal of the paragraph.
 * Crx88 socks, including Sahzi, hardly ever use edit summaries. JFH (talk) 14:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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. Although I'm probably willing to block based on duck, I think there's barely enough time to do a CU before the data is stale. I'd like both confirmation and a more recent CU for the future.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are.
 * . PhilKnight (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * . PhilKnight (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * . PhilKnight (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * . PhilKnight (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

8 February 2015

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Evidence: Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * VillonHenry registered a day after last sock blocked. Edits only Presbyterian articles and adds sourced copyvio content.. There is another, obvious bit of evidence I do not want to point out here. I will provide it by email request.
 * 81.183.217.1 is from Hungary, the only other wiki language the sockmaster edited. Presbyterian articles edited adding sourced, copyvio content. In fact, this IP just reverted my removal of VillonHenry's copyvio content.
 * 185.10.126.206 is from Hungary and edited only Presbyterian Church of Angola. I'm not 100% sure about this IP. But, looking at the history of Presbyterian Church of Angola, this IP edited just after 81.183.217.1 and just before Cryx88. So, likely.

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocks and tags as appropriate. Blocked the IP who has been editing recently for one week. The other IP hasn't edited since 2013. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags as appropriate. Blocked the IP who has been editing recently for one week. The other IP hasn't edited since 2013. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags as appropriate. Blocked the IP who has been editing recently for one week. The other IP hasn't edited since 2013. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags as appropriate. Blocked the IP who has been editing recently for one week. The other IP hasn't edited since 2013. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

15 June 2015

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Adds content to or creates church articles rife with copyvios. Name is DUCK. Created account one day after last sock was blocked November 9, 2014. Already blocked by me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:36, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Sock already blocked. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

20 June 2015

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Evidence is:
 * HeGabor registered a day after last sock blocked
 * One of his socks is Calvingabor
 * Works only on Presbyterian church articles
 * Other evidence upon email request

That second point is enough for me to block. CU if you wish. I'll leave it to others to tag. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * I tagged the sock. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

17 July 2015

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The editing history shows that this editor registered when the previous account was blocked, and is working on the same articles. StAnselm (talk) 04:52, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked by me just now per evidence available upon email request. I will leave it to others to tag. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Blocked and tagged as suspect. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  09:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

11 August 2015

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Common to his socks, works on Presbyterian Church articles and adds copyvio content with source. Registered two days after last sock blocked. Other, overwhelming bit of evidence available upon email request, but this should be enough. I'll leave it to others to block. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * ✅ and blocked. Tiptoety  talk 23:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Tagged and closing. TDL (talk) 18:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

1 February 2014

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In common to socks, this IP adds copyvio content to Presbyterian articles. Roughly half of all articles edited were also edited by the socks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Confession: . Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Someone already blocked this IP. I'm going to semi-protect the PCA article and maybe a few others, but there's not much more I can do for this SPI. Courcelles (talk) 22:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, PCA seems to be the only really consistent target, but use semi-protection more liberally as necessary. Courcelles (talk) 22:18, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

1 November 2015

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This user adds sourced copyvio content to Presbyterian church articles. That is the defining characteristic of all other socks. Examples: Addition and source. Addition and source.
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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:19, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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✅: ==. -- Euryalus (talk) 09:03, 7 November 2015 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  21:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing.

1 December 2015

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I blocked Debeza12 as an obvious sock for obvious reasons (email if you don't see it) on 09:35, 20 November 2015 and then Illones01 registered 09:45, 21 November 2015 adding sourced copyvio content to Presbyterian articles, normal MO. addition, source.

Debeza12 already blocked but not Illones01. Seek CU for sleepers as it is now Dec 1 and his new incarnation is likely in use.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Both confirmed as Cryx88. Also ✅ with, also blocked. No other sleepers. Can someone else please tag - am on the road and adding the templates is a challenge from this device. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I've gone ahead and tagged all the socks, all blocked. Closing case for now. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

02 December 2015

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Personal attack on. Restoring material added by blocked sock ([[User:EvergreenFir| Eve rgr een Fir ] (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 19:01, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked indef by Euryalus. Considering the message left at Anna Frodesiak's talk page I agree that this is self-admitted socking. De728631 (talk) 20:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hunpres has been tagged and blocked indef, closing case now. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:07, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

04 December 2015

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Restored material that was added by known sock. Made attack on like previous sock.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 22:24, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:04, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * IP blocked one week for block evasion. Closing case for now. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:04, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

21 December 2015

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Evidence is:


 * Jerhoow recreated Faith Presbytery, Bible Presbyterian Church, the same article created and deleted by two other of his socks. Article contained copyvio but sourced content common to socks.


 * JKOLLL recreated First Presbyterian Church (Montgomery, AL), same article created and deleted by another sock. Article contained some of the same content.


 * GHklon added sourced copyvio content to First Presbyterian Church (Montgomery, AL) (contributionsource) half an hour after JKOLLL edited the article.


 * CalPres, JonesdeBez, TeoBeza, already blocked by me as obvious socks.


 * Request CU (or maybe CU endorsement then CU) for Jerhoow, GHklon and JKOLLL, and a sleeper check.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * All six accounts are ✅ as Cryx88. No sleepers yet. Blocked and tagged. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:38, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Nothing left to do here, closing case. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

06 April 2016

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Recreation of like other socks. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 16:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * ✅, but I think the church is notable, though the article needs work. Courcelles (talk) 18:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. CLosing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:17, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

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Recreated First Presbyterian Church (Montgomery, Alabama), intersection with socks on a couple other pages Sro23 (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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His article creation First Presbyterian Church (Montgomery, Alabama) has copyvios in it. This is typical. Also, I deleted this article back in 2015 when he created it then. This is WP:G5. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * . Favonian (talk) 05:57, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK; new account reverts my undo of a sockpuppet's change. Sro23 (talk) 20:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Please block sock - Sro23 (talk) 20:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sro23 - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Tagged, closing. Sro23 (talk) 21:51, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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Another WP:DUCK on Presbyterian Church in America, making the same edit. Sro23 (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Please block sock. Sro23 (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Someone got the block, I semi'ed the PCA article. Courcelles (talk) 01:15, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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New account, first edit is restoring the same content made by a sock Sro23 (talk) 17:52, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please bock sock. Sro23 (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. GABgab 19:45, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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First edit was to reinstate a sockpuppet's contribution. Sro23 (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block. Sro23 (talk) 14:29, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . Favonian (talk) 15:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Sock returns to undo my edit -  Sro23 (talk) 17:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please block. Thank you. Sro23 (talk) 17:55, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * . Favonian (talk) 17:58, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK- returned to make same edit. Sro23 (talk) 20:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please indef. Sro23 (talk) 20:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * . Favonian (talk) 20:57, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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The IP's only edits are undo's of reverts of blocked socks:  , etc). Sro23 (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please block for a month because I believe this is a static IP. Sro23 (talk) 21:21, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * . GABgab 00:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

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Shares common editing history and edits reverting reverts of master's edit.  General Ization Talk  16:29, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked; closing. Favonian (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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Reverts to restore edit persistently added by master and other socks.  General Ization Talk  03:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP is now stale. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK.  General Ization Talk  04:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * - An ip address cannot be publicly linked to a registered accounts with CheckUser information. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The IP is stale and the sockmaster seems to already be using a different address. Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:07, 26 May 2018 (UTC)