Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DIVINE/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
DIVINE previously created an article on Scott Woodward (marketing executive) which was deleted via Afd but the only KEEP !vote on the discussion page came from another UPE, Editingforgk (blocked for WP:PAID).

Now, this time he again created another article about a non-notable individual, Luca Schnetzler which is at AfD.

Here, a similar pattern is repeated. User:Yfjr registered on August 2017 but suddenly became active on 8 March 2024, and started editing on the same pages. The diffs are:


 * 1) Yfjr adding image to the same article created by DIVINE


 * 1) Yfjr adding logo to a company page created by DIVINE


 * 1) Yfjr commenting on the nom do your research before... similar to DIVINE the editor intention is to clearly harm the article without properly researching....


 * 1) Yfjr reporting the AfD nominator to save the article created by DIVINE who, despite being involved, also tried the same

Clearly,


 * Yfjr has been blocked for NOTHERE but given their registration period and timing of editing, I believe there may be some sleeper accounts to do GHBH editing. Bhivuti45 (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Update:
 * 1) Both DIVINE, but your personal accusation seems like an personal attack Yfjr You're an absolute clown that does not deserve to be on Wikipedia and that IP are obsessed with personal attacks.
 * 2) All these editors took it "personal" while other editors are commenting on Luca Schnetzler.
 * 3) Statements like, YfjrI donate to Wikipedia insane amounts of money and do not want to see users like this on the platform or DIVINE, I have been creating article directly to namespace since 10 years and i will continue doing that or even, this COI notice is just an garbage as an personal attack clearly shows lack of understanding of policies and the goals of Wikipedia. I rest my case on the checkuser here. Thank you.Bhivuti45 (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 4) User Editingforgk tried to disrupt consensus on AfD of an article created by DIVINE.
 * 5) Editingforgk tried to restore the same promotional article on Scott Woodward (marketing executive), initially created by DIVINE at WP:REFUND. I am sure that there still might be more accounts to do the GHBH edits on behalf of DIVINE. Bhivuti45 (talk) 09:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 6) Editingforgk turned out to be a confirmed UPE editor. Pinging  who blocked him. Bhivuti45 (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

For Scot, i declared paid editing which you can see on my userpage. If someone random came to my deletion discussion and use word research which would have previously used me is sockpuppet than i cannot do anything more than laughing out loud. While there is common interest between User: Juli Wolfe and the user who recently filed SPI investigation after arriving to wikipedia since Jan 18. CU and Clerk can peacefully do their work. DIVINE 02:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Additionally, this is not more than any personal attacks ; ) DIVI<b style="color:#808">N</b><b style="color:#FA0">E</b> 02:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I first stumbled upon the AfD of your page, which clearly gives a sign of promotional editing, that lead me to your talkpage. Aftewards, pinged me on their talk page where I got this diff which clearly shows you are using old multiple accounts to save your UPE edits. If you are not using any socks then you do not have to worry. Bhivuti45 (talk) 09:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I am very bold when it comes to sockpuppet investigation neither I’m worried about it and it’s not the first time that someone has filed spi against me. Again let me remind you making personal accusation against another editor multiple times is not good behavior. I have told you before to assume good faith and avoid personal attacks. CU are strong enough to check the sockpuppetry so you need to relax. You should have requested CU while starting SPI. And again personal attacks are worse than garbage and you have been warned multiple times before to disclose your paid editing before which we all can see in your talk page and two has been removed. It’s sad to see that instead of contributing users are into eachother and i am amused you appeared just after few months just to file spi and someone pinged you and you filed what an coincidence. And wikipedia doesn't run your personal assummption or false accusation. When i have clarified multiple times that i haven't gotten single penny for haven't been involved on upe on the particular pages mentioned you're doing personal attacks and violating Casting aspersions <b style="color:#29F">DI</b><b style="color:red">V</b><b style="color:#080">I</b><b style="color:#808">N</b><b style="color:#FA0">E</b> 09:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Why you are so obsessed with "personal attacks" just because an editor thinks your page doesn't qualify??


 * Even the Scott Woodward (marketer) article for which you disclosed paid-editing, didn't go through the AfC process as required by WP:COI.


 * What is your link with Editingforgk who has same interest on Scott Woodward (marketer)? Bhivuti45 (talk) 10:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Nothing to see with my special glasses. Drmies (talk) 13:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , are you saying that you ran a check against DIVINE and Yfjr and they were unrelated?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed! Well I checked Divine and found no reason to look further, and the log indicates that two other CUs looked at Yfjr, on 27 and 29 March, and apparently saw nothing. Drmies (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Based on the CU results, closing without action. Bbb23 (talk) 14:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)