Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dallavid/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
The contribution styles, behaviours, and especially early edits of these two accounts are far too similar to be unrelated. I am uncertain as to whether one of these accounts is a sock or a meatpuppet of the other, however, I'm certain that they are connected in some way (the reason I've chosen Dallavid as the master is because his account is older). Here are just a few of the similarities I've observed:


 * 1) Shortly after creating their accounts, both accounts left very similar harassment messages on my talk page, both of which include a rant about my edits to articles about villages in Armenia, an obscure topic that no other editor on English Wikipedia had touched in years: Dallavid, 25 days after creation - 15 February 2021; ZaniGiovanni, 3 days after creation - 14 March 2021
 * 2) Dallavid had made only a few edits since the creation of his account prior to the day ZaniGiovanni was blocked for a week for harassing me (16:30pm (GMT) 14 March 2021). After that, Dallavid begins almost daily editing (See contributions after 14 March; prior to this, he had not made any edits for more than a month). Two days later, he asks another editor if there is a way to get me banned and cites the argument I had with ZaniGiovanni (in which Dallavid was not involved) as an example of my "poor" editing. How does he, as a new account with only a handful of edits, know about this random argument on a page that barely receives 300 views per month?
 * 3) A week after (21 March 2021) ZaniGiovanni's ban is lifted, Dallavid becomes significantly less active once more (last active edit on 28 March 2021).
 * 4) After ZaniGiovanni is topic-banned from AA2 for two months (15 September 2022), Dallavid begins daily editing again (see contributions after 13-15 September 2022).
 * 5) Similarly to ZaniGiovanni, Dallavid appears driven and obsessed with removing any and all references to Azerbaijan(is) from Armenian village articles. (one of a dozen examples: Dallavid; ZaniGiovanni)
 * 6) Both ZaniGiovanni and Dallavid use identical removal criteria to delete the same source and material from village articles. (Dallavid; ZaniGiovanni)
 * 7) ZaniGiovanni's first edit on Wikipedia was a revert accompanied by an edit summary accusing me of being a "One purpose account". Extremely suspicious for a brand-new editor to be familiar with the concept of one/single-purpose accounts.

These are only a few of the similarities I can list here without becoming repetitive – unfortunately, it would require too much space to list them all (they are mainly about how similar the time intervals are between one account ceasing editing and the other beginning, or how both accounts go inactive and return on the exact same days). I'd like a CU to verify whether or not these accounts are socks and, if not, whether this evidence is sufficient to establish a meatpuppet connection between them. If necessary, I'm happy to provide a Pastebin link of all other similarities between the accounts. — Golden  call me maybe? 17:07, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Dallavid also previously started a discussion on the deletion of Massacres of Azerbaijanis in Armenia in 1917–1921 with the points of original research and it being a fork of another page, also bringing up Taner Akçam,, which were 100.0 percent restated by ZaniGiovanni . Both Dallavid and ZaniGiovanni put emphasis on scholars being "genocide deniers" for their overall unreliability: . Both emphasize on "modern source": The name Dallavid has an Italian feel to it, given that "dalla" in Italian means "from the," while ZaniGiovanni is directly an Italian name.


 * In addition, while looking at Dallavid's edits, I have come across another user named Maidyouneed also focused on Armenia and Azerbaijan like the other two accounts:
 * This account uses an awful lot of phrases like "per source," "per this," and "per that" like ZaniGiovanni and Dallavid: . Both ZaniGiovanni and Maidyouneed are interested in the Sabancı family and Hacı Ömer Sabancı as seen from the page history: . Ayıntaplı (talk) 22:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I had suspicions about Dallavid being a sock too, so I had this page watchlisted in case someone else got to it before me. There are a lot of similarities between the 2 accounts that I've noticed too: From reading through their talk page comments, I can confidently say as a native English-speaker that they have uncannily similar language and vocabulary conventions; they both make the same remarks to excuse themselves; their writing and syntax style is nigh identical. I'd be astonished if they aren't related in some way or another, there are just too many similarities (commenting style, editing niche articles, civility, etc). Also, the fact that they come online and offline on the same exact days after extended periods of inactivity is extremely suspicious. Or that Dallavid's contributions/edits nearly doubled after ZaniGiovanni was topic-banned, but then reduced when the ban was lifted? Moreover, after watching ZaniGiovanni's talk page I noticed he left a 4 paragraph comment on the checking admin's talk page, casting aspersions on Golden in what can only be perceived as "striking back" after having felt vulnerable due to this SPI report. Why would someone innocent be this angry at an SPI when they supposedly have nothing to worry about? – Olympian loquere 12:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . ST47 (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Behavioral evidence alone is not convincing enough. "Per this" and "per that" are fairly common, and other coincidences are somewhat likely in controversial areas like this. . MarioGom (talk) 18:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)