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14 December 2014

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All trying to post pages about a 14-year old rapper Dao ranaldo with many variations of title, or his other name Young rhymes. JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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All blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK. Reported for the record and to establish a base, as he is persistent, creating new socks at about one a day. JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

07 February 2015

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Another outbreak of socks of this persistent 14-year-old Youtube "rapper", calling himself "Dao Ranaldo" or "Yung Rhymes" or "Viral d" (with variations of spelling). JohnCD (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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All blocked and tagged, reported for the record. JohnCD (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

11 February 2015

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Yet another attempt to create a Wikipedia presence for the 14-year old rapper Dao Ranaldo's Yung rhymes persona. User page starts off with "Yung rhymes i am an English rapper." So there's no question it's him. Meters (talk) 17:45, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, I've taken care of the account and the draft page. Mike V • Talk 18:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

12 February 2015

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Created Viral D (Rapper) and User:Timmy blackbush/Viral D and made other attempts to insert the name. Though account was only registered on 10 Feb, he said on User talk:MatthewVanitas "will you submit the article dude ive been trying for months". JohnCD (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK, reported for the (ever-growing) record. JohnCD (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

18 February 2015

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Creation of page Yung Rhymes, a pseudonym of Dao Leo Ranaldo and other pages created about a non-notable rapper. Speedy deletion tags removed, similar to editing behaviour seen with other suspected socks of this account.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  23:40, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Added, for the record, Dinner45H, already blocked, who re-created Dao Leo Ranaldo. JohnCD (talk) 10:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Indeffed, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

20 February 2015

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Typical behaviour of Dao2k and his many socks attempting to add mention of non-notable 14-old rapper Dao Ranaldo. Added mention of his Yung rhymes persona to Yung Lean. Created article Wiggas (group) which mentions Dao Ranaldo, and removed speedy from article. Meters (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Created Yung Rhymes. No diff since already speedied twice. Meters (talk) 22:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Added rapper to description of Scottish singer Calvin Harris. This change was also made by known sock User:Timmy blackbush. Meters (talk) 23:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Indeffed, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:55, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

20 February 2015

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Seems very likely this is also Dao2k. Added Yung Lean to DAB Yung. There's no problem with this edit, but it is suspicious that around the same time Yung Lean was edited by another likely sock to mention Yung rhymes (see prev report). Added mention of Yung rhymes to DAB Yung. Meters (talk) 23:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked one week. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

24 February 2015

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Recreation of the Yung Rhymes (Rapper) page. Wgolf (talk) 02:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

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Indeffed, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

25 February 2015

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Creation of Yung Trace (Rapper), an alternative name for non-notable rapper Dao Leo Ranaldo. Multiple accounts have been used to create several different articles about this person.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  00:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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Indeffed and tagged. Lord, he created a lot of pages I had to delete. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

27 February 2015

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New account; created Yung Trace Da Flame, yet another page about non-notable rapper Dao Ranaldo.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  00:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Indeffed, tagged, article deleted, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

01 March 2015

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more about Dao Lee Ranaldo, now calling himself Yung Trace. JohnCD (talk) 11:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK, reported for the record. JohnCD (talk) 11:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

16 May 2015

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Recreation of the yung trace article which was created by Dao2k Wgolf (talk) 23:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Account blocked by Rjd0060 for spam/advertising purposes. Mike V • Talk</b> 17:53, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

23 June 2015

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Yung Trace recreated once again Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  17:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * Alread blocked as obvious. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 20:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

27 June 2015

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Yung Trace again, this time in draft space: Draft:Yung Trace Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  19:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged as an obvious duck. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

01 July 2015

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Yung Trace (rap artist) Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  22:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged as an obvious duck. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Also blocked who showed up to try to keep the latest article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

04 July 2015

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Yung Trace (MC) this time. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 16:55, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * CU requested for sleepers which are typical of this account. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  17:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And indeed, one appears. Brand new account to contest the deletion and state that Dao2K was someone who lived in his house and he just threw him (the 14yo) out for not paying rent. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  17:43, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other:
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocks and tags after closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:47, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

07 July 2015

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New tactic! Creates soft redirects to articles on Simple Wikipedia. Slomoe in this case, which is the name of a rapper that's friends with, guess who: Yung Trace, according to the article at simple (simple:Slomoe). Sockmaster looks to be turning attention there, where IPs can create articles it appears. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 21:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged by another administrator. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 22:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

09 July 2015

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Created Yung Trace (MC) among other oft-deleted ones.

Also left note on my talk page asking how Yung Trace could ever be allowed.

Sleeper check please, given past history, and current history on simple. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 19:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK, articles deleted per WP:CSD. It's interesting that he is starting to write about people other than himself. If he grows up, and accepts that he isn't going to have an article, he just might become a useful contributor one day; but in view of the appalling level of sockpuppetry the best he could expect, if he applied for unblock at his original account, would be the WP:Standard offer. JohnCD (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've told him as much on my talk page. Indeed, after I chided him for re-creating his article, with a ping attached, he then put a db-test on that page. Perhaps there is hope. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  21:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing now, but I'll block and tag after.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

03 August 2015

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Here's Yung Trace (Rap artist) yet again. Note IPs used also, which are likely open proxies. Sleeper check if you feel like it, but if there are sleepers, he won't keep them asleep for long. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 17:41, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Added IPs for the record, and so us civilians can see them once article is deleted. Not asking to confirm IP to account, for privacy reasons. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  18:18, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Admin action needed - . Indef the account, and block both IPs for three days.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 02:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

17 August 2015

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Again pops up Yung Trace (musical artist). Checkuser requested for sleepers. Several names on en in this article and related ones have also contributed to this same article spam on SimpleWiki... Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 21:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * In fact, let me name the others I suspect, along with why I think they are socks/meats of Dao:
 * TheWikiEditor2000. On his user page he names 3 articles that he created: Nick Brewer, Yung Gleesh, and Trey Smith. This account is one that was involved with the same article on Simple, now deleted, which is why I started following him here. Of some circumstantial evidence, note the 2000 in the name compared with Dao2k (Dao was born in 2000 by his own admission), and that the account created Aug 6, 3 days after last Dao sock was blocked.
 * Yung Mana: This is the account that actually did start the Trey Smith article, which WikiEditor2000 edited a lot after this accounts initial start edits.
 * TheWikiEditoradvanced: Variant name on WikiEditor2000, much overlap between these accounts, see the overlap detector's hourly report above. Created a new Redirect to Yung Gleesh, as well as an article about a single he recorded. This one may be a meat/friend.
 * And since both compare tools are broken, a quick look at the 3 accounts' short history will show the overlap:, ,.
 * TheCuhaswon23: This one gets more complex / "gut feeling". In past interactions with Dao, I've tried to get him to realize why his articles keep getting deleted, and explained how the notability criteria work. Shortly after the Nick Brewer article is created by WikiEd2000, this account leaves me a message asking me if the article is suitable notability-wise. I have zero contributions that I know of in the area of hip-hop artists, so why a brand new account would find me and ask my opinion on a new article's notability, just set my radar off. I even left him a cryptic response, "tread lightly, both of you", which was not questioned as I would have expected if that didn't mean something to him. As I say, very gut-feel evidence, but having dealt with this Sock a great deal, it seems to fit.  Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  22:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

20 August 2015

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Blocked duck with Yung Trace (musical artist) again. Requesting a sleeper check. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * <b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b> • <b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b> 16:24, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

22 August 2015

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These two accounts have been involved in writing the biography of rapper Yung Gleesh, which was deleted a few days ago by Bbb23 because it had been created by TheWikiEditor2000, a confirmed sock of Dao2k. Two months ago, Ganghess started a draft of Yung Gleesh. Today, TheExtremeRapPageCreator recreated the biography of Yung Gleesh. Both TheWikiEditor2000 and TheExtremeRapPageCreator created user pages listing their creations. I don't have any more evidence on Ganghess because I can see only one edit. CU is requested because Dao2k usually creates a raft of accounts. Binksternet (talk) 15:59, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * There are a couple of other editors, all created since the last sock block, who are exclusively editing in the same areas as the last farm, Bugzy Malone, Chip (rapper), Blood Raw, etc. Easily dismissable as coincidence, so I won't name them here, but I do concur with the sleeper check based on history. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  16:09, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Also note the appearance of User:Yunggleesh13... Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  16:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And of some note, and IP has edited the latest Yung Gleesh article, geolocates to Hyatt corp, suggesting proxy editing or borrowing local open wifi to hide from checkuser. Without giving anything away, CU may want to compare the IP with the account on that article. The IP has made hundreds of edits today, further suggesting it is an exit point from Hyatt's network, so an autoblock may be damaging. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  16:57, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Three listed accounts blocked for being ducks.  As for the Hyatt IP, I think that was a good faith edit. The same IP has been making good edits. I think this was a case of the IP attempting to clean up the article without knowing that this is an LTA issue.  Past IPs show a different provider. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:39, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * is.
 * is ✅.
 * is.
 * . Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

05 September 2015

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 * Dayne re-created Benny Banks (rapper), one of Dao's usual suspects, see deletion history:, . Also compare:
 * TheSlightEditor, recreated Yungen (musician), another Dao typical. See its deletion history: . Also compare:


 * Note editing patterns, typical of Dao's use of multiple accounts:
 * TSE edited today from 1540 GMT to 1546, then stopped.
 * DB1 created today at 1551, edited from 1604 GMT to 1608, at 1604 created the Benny Banks article.
 * TSE resumed editing 1616. At 1630, TSE then wikilinks the now created Banks article:


 * CU requested to sniff out the inevitable sleepers. There are a few I suspect based solely on editing patterns, though not enough to name here (email if curious). Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  17:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * The two accounts are ✅. . Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

29 September 2015

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Back again with Yung Trace (Rap artist). CU please for sleepers, and confirmation of this one. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 22:08, 29 September 2015 (UTC) Added for the record another who created Yung Trace (Rap artist) last month, but does not seem to be listed. JohnCD (talk) 22:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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Both accoounts blocked and tagged as WP:DUCKs, leaving open for CU check. JohnCD (talk) 22:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The two accounts are ✅ and their tags adjusted accordingly. . It's not necessary to request a sleeper check every time there are new ducks. Depending on the circumstances, next time I may decline it. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:03, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

18 October 2015

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New version of the same old thing: Yung Trace (English rapper) Crow   Caw  19:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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I deleted the created page and blocked the user. No check user needed here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Tagged. Marking for close. JohnCD (talk) 20:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

21 October 2015

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Created article on an American rapper, Lil Tushin, who list as Associated Acts, one Yung Trace. One of the references is a filtered Twitter feed including replies from Yung Trace. IP that is editing following creation geolocates to same location and ISP as Dao. Similar method creating, shall we say, ancillary pages (BEANS, email me if these are required as we know Dao watches this page). Compare to recently deleted and you'll see what I mean, or email me if not.

If endorsed, I would like a CU run. I know from prior comments that it is not necessary to request one every time, but if this is Dao, then a CU would have caught him on the last run. Crow  Caw  22:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * is ✅.
 * is.
 * Both blocked/tagged. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

21 November 2015

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Re/creation of page Yungen (British musician)‎, which has been deleted multiple times as Yungen (musician), Yungen (rapper) as far back as May 2015. 220  of  Borg 18:40, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * as an interested party. 220  of  Borg 18:43, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * The pattern here completely fits Dao's M.O. I'll be glad to elaborate via email since the sock has been pointed here (beans, you know). It is a pity that he didn't take the Standard Offer when it was offered and spent his time building these articles over at SimpleWiki. He'd now be a few weeks away from applying for an unblock with the SimpleWiki contributions as evidence of good article work. He still doesn't get that nothing from him will be accepted until then, regardless of how well he writes it. Pity, as he could be a good contributor but for that. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw  20:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

04 January 2016

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A new year, a new Yung Trace (rap artist) recreation. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 00:08, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * . Sock blocked. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:42, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

06 February 2016

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Recreated Yungen (musician), one of his regulars, with a variant name to get around the salting. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 18:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * . Indeffed and tagged. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:09, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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Going by the content in the article and deleted content in the many other Yung Rhymes, "Yung Rhymes [qualifier])", Yung Trace, and "Yung Trace [qualifier])", it would see obvious that this is the sockmaster again. Shirt58 (talk) 10:09, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:17, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Yung Trace (rap musician), Yung Trace (actor) Yung Trace (recording artist) Dao Ranaldo (disambiguation) (this name appears in the body of Yung Trace (recording artist)).

This puppeteer appears to constantly re-create article about a non-notable person, likely himself. Since many of the articles are deleted I cannot dig deep, got no mop. WannaBeEditor (talk) 04:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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YungBlock3456793 is ✅ and blocked. Bobby-hillfornton hasn't edited since May 2016 and is a rather old account. Yung Rhymes is not registered.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:22, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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Once again trying to get his article published, this time as Yung Trace of 1410, which actually went to AfD with the same result. Additionally is an obvious "tell" which I can supply via email as he's watched this page in past. Just state so and I'll send. He's been quiet for a while which had me hopeful that he'd taken my advice, so doing a CU will keep the data fresh, though I defer to your actions. Crow <sup style="color:black;"> Caw 19:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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 * You can go ahead and email me. Katietalk 20:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * These accounts are ✅ to Dao2k:


 * Blocked and tagged, closing. Katietalk 20:51, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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I know technical evidence will be stale but the IPs appear to be in the same range as past blocked IPs with a focus on Draft: Yungen/Draft:Yungen (rapper) etc...which is a favorite of this master as well as the named account which has been recreating this content for years. This looks pretty ducky to me. I'm filing this as they've resubmitted the draft in an attempt to evade the protection as well. I'll also note that it's likely that Katbehookd wasn't picked up in the CU sweep as they only had one edit between 4/16 and 3/17. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  12:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Can someone compare the writing style here with the deleted versions? Not entirely sure this is Dao... <b style="color: black;">Crow</b><i style="color: black">Caw</i> 18:53, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The range is nearly identical to the ranges previously blocked and the ip has done a majority of the writing and submission. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  23:54, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP edits too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Very similar name to confirmed sock. I'd be a bit surprised if they were unrelated. Accounts appear to be stale based on the date of the last report, so I'm not requesting checkuser. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 23:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * The accounts at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Dao2k were interested in writing an autobiography and editing articles about rappers. This account has made two edits to a page on an Islamic theologian. I don't see any similarities between these accounts besides the usernames, which are fairly generic, so I don't think this is actionable right now. - can an admin clerk please histmerge this to the correct location (WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Dao2k) and close. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 06:07, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merged, closing. Noting that the reported account is now blocked as a sock of . --Blablubbs (talk) 23:14, 14 November 2021 (UTC)