Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DavideVeloria88/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( originally filed under this name with Uterpickle as the only sock)


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If you look at the users' contributions, they are targeting the same pages and do the same edits:


 * on Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces: by Krustycheese;  by Üterpickle
 * on Second Battle of Komárom (1849): by Krustycheese;  by Üterpickle
 * on Battle of San Martino: by Krustycheese;  by Üterpickle
 * on Third Italian War of Independence: by Krustycheese;  by Üterpickle

Also, all users edited pages about Austria and most notably wars involving it, often changing the result of the conflicts and with the same motivations (Example: by Krustycheese;  and  by Uterpickle; they both removed the "French victory" result, stating that "The article doesn't state a French victory") DavideVeloria88 (talk) 10:53, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Obvious socks. Indef Üterpickle, 1 week block for  with the understanding that they read WP:SOCK and promise never to do it again.  No tags anywhere.  Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * . Please do not archive this yet. Mz7 (talk) 22:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Before archiving this case, I ran a follow-up check to look for other accounts and possible sleepers. After review, I believe this is a joe job by the filer of this SPI. The following accounts are ✅ to each other:
 * These accounts are ❌ to Krustycheese. This is a particularly displeasing case of sockpuppetry because DavideVeloria88 is an account with 2500 edits. In addition to the close technical overlap between DavideVeloria88 and LucaGaletti95, there is also extremely close article overlap. In at least one case, this user engaged in edit warring with themselves. With respect to Krustycheese, just before the Üterpickle account was created, DavideVeloria88 engaged in a content dispute with Krustycheese on the Third Italian War of Independence article: see . Immediately afterwards, DavideVeloria88 created the Üterpickle account and used it to impersonate Krustycheese's editing, used the LucaGaletti95 to revert the Üterpickle edits, then subsequently filed this SPI in order to have Krustycheese blocked.
 * . Please move this case under DavideVeloria88. I also recommend unblocking Krustycheese per the evidence above. Mz7 (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved, unblocked Krustycheese with our apologies. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * These accounts are ❌ to Krustycheese. This is a particularly displeasing case of sockpuppetry because DavideVeloria88 is an account with 2500 edits. In addition to the close technical overlap between DavideVeloria88 and LucaGaletti95, there is also extremely close article overlap. In at least one case, this user engaged in edit warring with themselves. With respect to Krustycheese, just before the Üterpickle account was created, DavideVeloria88 engaged in a content dispute with Krustycheese on the Third Italian War of Independence article: see . Immediately afterwards, DavideVeloria88 created the Üterpickle account and used it to impersonate Krustycheese's editing, used the LucaGaletti95 to revert the Üterpickle edits, then subsequently filed this SPI in order to have Krustycheese blocked.
 * . Please move this case under DavideVeloria88. I also recommend unblocking Krustycheese per the evidence above. Mz7 (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved, unblocked Krustycheese with our apologies. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Something strange is going on in the Marco Polo article. An editor with an obvious agenda keeps changing the "Venetian merchant" in the intro to "Italian merchant", reverting all changes by others, ignoring comments on the talk page, and using the same explanation all the time.

In 2018, it was Howard "Dib" Montjio who was repeatedly changing the description with edit summaries saying "this isn’t a modern world (as said for Colombus)", "‘Italian’ is not a modern world" and "people referred to people from the Italian peninsula as Italians long before the 19th-century political unification of the country". Howard "Dib" Montjio was then blocked from editing for abusing multiple accounts.

In 2019, DavideVeloria88 started making the same edits, using very similar edit summaries like "As also discussed repeatedly on the Christopher Columbus Talk page (here), Italy did exist in name" and "All people born in the Italian peninsula were named Italians long before the unification of the country". DavideVeloria88 was then blocked from editing for abusing multiple accounts.

In the meantime, formal consensus on the talk page has been reached, with the closing admin confirming that the intro should say "Venetian", not "Italian".

Finally, BorisBradley, a relatively new account (registered on 23 June 2020) immediately reverted the formally agreed-upon change, with the same edit summary as the previously blocked users: "As discussed several times on the Talk page, "Italian" is not a modern word. Italy did exist in name (see Name of Italy) and all the people born in the peninsula were known as Italians long before the unification of the country. The same thing applies to Christopher Columbus and others". What's strange is that a new user who has never discussed anything on the talk page before knows exactly the talk page archives, ignores the official community consensus on this matter, and uses exactly the same arguments as the previously blocked users. So either the user is a sock puppet, or it's a really strange coincidence. J. M. (talk) 20:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * I'm still exploring, but I'm wondering if this is the same as Sockpuppet investigations/Howard "Dib" Montjio? -- RoySmith (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , what are your thoughts for how to process this SPI from here? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I was doing a little digging which never went anywhere, neglected to follow up, and have been pulled away IRL on other things for a while. I took another brief look at this just now, but unfortunately, can't devote the time to it at the moment that it deserves, so somebody else should pick it up.  My apologies for having been a blocker on this one. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * and, I'd just like to point at that in the meantime this user has been making some rather substantial edits, e.g. [], as well as edits to high-profile controversial articles, e.g. []. Generalrelative (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * BorisBradley is ✅ to DavideVeloria88. They're to what's left over in the log for Howard "Dib" Montjio. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like there's nothing left to do here, so closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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I suspect that the indef blocked user DavideVeloria88 is continuing to edit Wikipedia using the following IPs: 62.18.130.105, 62.18.135.29 and 5.169.102.14. Like IPs formerly associated with DavideVeloria88 these are from Brescia, Italy. Further, the language quirks are the same (e.g. misusing "since" to mean "beginning in": cf. [] and []), as is the obsession with blaming the victims of Italian colonization in Africa during the period of fascist rule. See this recent post on my talk page: [] and compare with those posted by DavideVeloria88 in the past: [] and []. See also this recent edit to Italian colonization of Libya: [] which continues an edit war DavideVeloria88 had been engaging in (discussed at Talk:Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War) and also these two at Second Italo-Senussi War: [] and [], which push the same POV. Thanks! Generalrelative (talk) 16:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * At this point, those IPs haven't edited in a week, so blocking them is probably pointless. I looked at 62.18.128.0/21; that looks like it has a lot of non-related traffic.  Sadly, I don't see there's much that can be done here in SPI-land, so closing with no action taken.  Perhaps WP:RFP would be a better tool. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)