Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Davidmurray1/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

The first edits from GRCCRaiders was to Grand Rapids Community College. Trying to add in promotional information. Once warned about their COI they continued to edit the article. I then explained here the consequences of continuing to edit the article. The next edit on the article was to restore the promotional information here by Specialk1998 which was this editors first edit.-- VViking Talk Edits 14:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC) VViking Talk Edits 14:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I am adding Davidmurray1 That account is more likely the puppet master since their account has been active since 2021. This is a SPA that has only edited Grand Rapids Community College and they started editing again right after Specialk1998 edited the article-- VViking Talk Edits 15:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

The changes are informational and not promotional, and citations are added. There was wildly outdated, incomplete and inaccurate information on the page. We made accurate and necessary edits that are very much in line with what appears on other college and university pages. We will happily defend these changes and show how the prior information was inaccurate, outdated and incomplete. Davidmurray1 (talk) 15:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

(responding to Bbb23's question) GRCCRaiders was, but we logged out and will delete it after learning that there should not be institutional accounts. I then used my personal account to make changes. I am not the other account that was listed. I was not an experienced Wikipedia user -- we made similar accuracy updates to the page in 2021, but are learning the proper processes and procedures. I'll be careful to avoid promotional language, and only correct incomplete or inaccurate language, and add necessary accurate information with citations. We are learning. Davidmurray1 (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello. I am the communications director. Normally we don't see the Wikipedia page, but we have a new president who started Monday, and he emailed this morning asking me to update the page to add him as president and some of the other things he noticed were inaccurate. We'll work to avoid anything remotely promotional, and add citations. I'm investigating to see whether the other person was someone on my staff who was trying to be helpful. I suspect there was no intention to be a sock puppet - I'm not sure what that means, but I suspect it is not a good thing -- but to be helpful. I appreciate the conversation. Davidmurray1 (talk) 17:08, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
We made accurate and necessary edits... Are you saying that GRCCRaiders and Specialk1998 are also your accounts?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * What is your role at GRCC? Please post your response in the "Comments by other users" section. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * - I've blocked GRCCRaiders without a tag. There's no reason for to have two accounts. I've posted a WP:COI notice to Davidmurray1's Talk page. Davidmurray, you need to comply with the requirements of the COI notice. That means you must create a userpage for yourself declaring your COI and you cannot edit the GRCC article directly. You must propose any changes to the article on the Talk page of the article and you must support your proposed changes with reliable sources. If you violate any of these requirements, you risk being blocked. To the clerk: please move this article with Davidmurray1 as the master. Bbb23 (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Moved case, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 00:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)