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10 February 2015

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Deepcruze' name was changed from Godsongur to Deepcruze. He don't want to talk to anyone and he is edit warring on Dalit and Other Backward Class, he made these changes-- then he recovered them- with an obvious duck account. Bladesmulti (talk) 13:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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✅, and in any case,. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 22:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Sock blocked and account blocked for a week. Mike V • Talk 04:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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The IP (2409:4055:58c:2319::ea:70b1) came from nowhere to contest the speedy deletion at Rajendra Prasad Singh (created by the master) just five minutes after I tagged it for deletion. I asked the master for reason but they reverted my edit without replying. I also notice that the IP was range blocked by user as a sock of Nikhil448 for adding unsourced content, they are editing the same kind of articles (Dalit and other backward class) and their behaviour is almost the same. Pinging if they can compare their edits. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 19:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * I am on mobile & it is v tedious trying to delve into histories, sorry. The CSD & user talk action looks suspicious, sure. I suspect Deepcruze is going to be at least topic banned soon anyway - they have a long history of problematic editing on dalit-related articles. - Sitush (talk) 21:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I have added "DalitRaj" to the list and also changed the status of the SPI. This account was created for evading scrutiny. DalitRaj created List of people from Chamar caste and Deepcruze became the first editor to actually add something to this article. Same is the interest in List of gurdwaras, Jatav, Miss Pooja, Udham Singh, and many other articles. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 12:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Please check Deepcruze vs DalitRaj. Strong overlap in editor interactions report, but seeking confirmation. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * DalitRaj ✅ BhaujanStar
 * ChamarVeer
 * Deepcruze --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Of the two accounts that are confirmed to each other (DalitRaj and BhaujanStar), the older one stopped editing shortly before the newer account was created. This may simply be a clean start, lost password, or something similar.  I'm going to AGF, issue warnings to them both, and take no further action on them.  As for ChamarVeer, I don't see enough behavioral evidence to do anything there either.  Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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Rajiv.sharma is absolutely Deepcruze if you look at the interaction tool. Created 2 weeks after Deepcruze was indeffed, Rajiv.sharma is trying to promote a disruptive creation (see Talk:Vandalism_of_Ambedkar_statues) from Deepcruze.

Duck is quacking loud per same edit summaries on the same article:

DalitRaj is also a sock of either account, being the only editor who took interest in adding something to an unpopular article Dalit music, which was created by Deepcruze. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 05:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * But what about Rajiv.sharma (who has only 400 edits) being same user as Deepcruze? Cleary same user since he registered after Deepcruze failed to get unblocked. I don't think has logs for Deepcruze. Some more similarities are right here:
 * Both added link to Ladakh police on Ladakh.
 * Mass removal on Punjabiyat.
 * Link addition in the same sentence within Punjab, India.
 * Image addition on Surjit Patar.
 * Same edit summaries: "created article citing sources" "related articles" "citing valid sources" "linked related article", "improved article", "corrected vandalism"
 * See page history of this article. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 15:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  10:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * to check RajivSharma00 vs DalitRaj. Dalit was confirmed to BhaujanStar (11 June 2020 in the archives), but I went with just a warning at that time, assuming it was a clean start.  The identical edit summaries  vs  are suspicious as are the "Mobile edit / Mobile web edit" tags on both of their edits and the extensive interaction history.  I'm not sure any of that is enough, but given the confirmed use of multiple accounts, it's worth a look. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * They are ❌.
 * Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * To clarify, DalitRaj is not near the location of Deepcruze but RajivSharma00 who is to the master so.
 * Given the clarification from and the additional evidence from,  RajivSharma007.  (re)-closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

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. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 11:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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User SanjeevMishra1947 created this new sleeper account 11 days ago his original account RajivSharma007 was editing the very same articles such as Womens rights in Kashmir and Ladakh pushing the same pov Himachal78 (talk) 13:05, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * to past sock RajivSharma007. . GeneralNotability (talk) 15:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Added tag for master -- RoySmith (talk) 17:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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and more from CU's research:




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Popped up after earlier sock got blocked. . Abhishek0831996 (talk) 15:22, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Not sure if just adding a link to Ladakh Nuns Association is enough by itself to endorse, but given the extensive socking history here, it is. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ RaviSharma21 = RajivSharma007 = SanjeevMishra47. Other noted accounts already blocked. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 18:02, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * -- RoySmith (talk) 19:21, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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BhaujanStar created this year and reactivated in less than a week after earlier sock got blocked and expanding content on same pages.

DalitRaj and BhaujanStar are engaging in same tag team reverting on Sikh Light Infantry.

ChamarVeer and BhaujanStar are too expanding same articles and using same edit summaries: Rettamalai Srinivasan, Ramai Ram, Upendra Nath Biswas and others. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 13:28, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * So these three are all on the same ranges, same type of edits, same edit summaries, etc. but with a variety of devices. I have no doubt that this is socking, but here's the thing: noted (see the archive) that they had a bunch of them that were identical but were not Deepcruze, and I don't know their data. So I'm hesitant to confirm to the master; perhaps  can say more (again, see archive). But these three I am comfortable identifying as the same editor, yes. I'll go ahead and block them, but won't tag pending possible further discussion/information. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Closing w/o tags. No proper definitive link can be made to Deepcruze. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 06:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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Obviously:, ,

Given long-term sockpuppetry, a deeper check will reveal a detailed picture. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 11:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Fairly confident. Some history of sleepers though.  qedk  ( t  愛  c ) 14:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * - ~TNT (she/they • talk) 20:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , all previous socks ~TNT (she/they • talk) 20:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 *  qedk ( t  愛  c ) 10:30, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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Account created after the last SPI was filed and became active after last socks were blocked.

Same interests as master: List of incidents of caste-related violence in India, List_of_things_named_after_B. R. Ambedkar,] Demographics_of_Punjab,_India, Mullanpur Garibdass, and more.

Same edit summaries too.

Given long-term sockpuppetry, a deeper check will reveal a detailed picture. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 08:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For further evidence see on Kenneth Cooper  and  on Kulwant Singh (politician). . Abhishek0831996 (talk) 17:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Sure, I can provide but per WP:BEANS many diffs won't make any good sense. Still, let me know if more is needed, but for now, I think this should be enough: Updating the  "leader_name1" on Hoshiarpur. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 02:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Given the history of socking and some problematic editing by this latest account we'll run the check, but everything in the archive including the master would be . It seems past CUs have had issues with sleepers and stale results but there appears to be a broad consensus that this could be an LTA. Mkdw  talk 17:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As suspected, everything was stale and this individual is operating on a massive range. Since the issue of stale comparisons is a recurring issue, I've created a CU wiki page to start coordinating dealing with this potential LTA. As for HUMANLIVESMATTER, . Mkdw  talk 17:29, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * . Within the SASG topic area, I don't lend any weight to shared POV/interests, and don't lend much to article overlap, because there's just so many people saying essentially the same thing in the same places. The two bits of evidence that are the most damning here are the pair of edit summaries and the edits related to Kenneth Cooper. Those almost get me to a point of being willing to request a block, but there's doubts that nag at me. Cooper reports on SASG issues, so it's not inconceivable that two editors with the same SASG POV would want to write about him. Can you provide any more diffs that show specific behavioral similarities? That is to say, not just article overlap or shared POV, but making edits with substantively identical content, or using the same distinctive wording in edit summaries or elsewhere? Thanks.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:35, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Part of my hesitance here was that some of this behavior seemed a bit different than some recent sox in the archive. However, another clerk shared with me their impression that some of the more recent sox here may be misfiled, and encouraged me to compare to the master directly. There, I do see pretty compelling article overlap, including on some quite low-visibility articles, and pretty compelling edit-summary similarities. This is just about at the bottom of the confidence interval at which I'm willing to request a block, but in it. So, : Please block HUMANLIVESMATTER indefinitely as a suspected sock of Deepcruze. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked per above; closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  09:24, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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Edits to Punjab Legislative Assembly, Charanjit Singh Channi, Draft:Jasvir Singh Garhi, and the addition as "current" at Politics of Punjab, India.

This all verifies this is him, now socking with this new account. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 16:23, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 19:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * We did it again Roy! Sorry, I should have changed the status after fixing the report. I've put some stuff on CUwiki already, and found a couple of other accounts - want me to finish off? Girth Summit  (blether)  19:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ or at least as confirmed as you can be with big ranges and common user agents. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah I see. We seem to be in some kind of cosmic syncronization orbit :-). -- RoySmith (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅ to PunjabCensus with a very high degree of confidence. I agree with RoySmith that all of these accounts are very likely to be the proposed master - they're operating out of a very wide range, but the editing interests and behaviour are very similar, so I'm happy with calling them all confirmed.
 * That's all I can see at this time. Girth Summit  (blether)  19:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - there's more...  Girth Summit  (blether)  19:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that's it. Reclosing. Girth Summit  (blether)  19:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * - there's more...  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  19:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that's it. Reclosing. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  19:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that's it. Reclosing. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  19:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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All these accounts came after last SPI.

Both Sidchandra78 and ChaudharyRavidassia reverted redirect on Ambedkarism.

Yash1110 and ChaudharyRavidassia are major contributors of Chambhar.

Yash1110 is also interested in Udham Singh like Deepcruze.

Deepcruze and Yash1110 are also interested in Miss Pooja.

ChaudharyRavidassia did revert on Dalit music which was created by Deepcruze and has been edited by very few editors. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 10:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The technical investigation seems consistent with the earlier investigations. Sidchandra78 seemed suspicious and has a significant overlap with Deepcruze but I don't think he is Deepcruze. Apart from the similarities I cited above, there are many more similarities from the two other accounts.


 * ChaudharyRavidassia:
 * Adds "Ravidassi" as religion at Ramdasia's infobox and removes "Hinduism".
 * classifies Ad-Dharmi as "chamar" on lead, just like previous socks
 * Making major edits on List of Scheduled Castes in Uttar Pradesh but marking them as minor
 * Top editors of obscure article Bahujan Samaj Party of Nepal and adding WP:OR there.


 * Yash1110:
 * Same edit at Ramnami Samaj.
 * Censors the word "Kamboj" at Udham Singh.
 * Claims Shailendra (lyricist) to have born into "Chamar" caste.
 * Same claim on Miss Pooja that the person was born into "Ravidassia" and "Chamar" family.]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1098220536]
 * Social background of Palwankar Baloo.
 * Special focus on the word "Ramdasia" at Bhai Sangat Singh.


 * . Can you do the behavioral evaluation? Abhishek0831996 (talk) 04:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes. BahujanStar added content on P. N. Rajbhoj which has been restored by ChaudharyRavidassia. Wikilinking "Chamar" and calling it "fixed typo" on Kureel. Updates on same articles by using same edit summaries: Vijay Sampla, Masuriya Din, Buddha Priya Maurya  and others. I would recommend against creating 2 SPIs because it will only get more difficult to report. Kindly undo this move. Thanks. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 17:19, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping you in my above comment. Take a look. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 17:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * Why is Sidchandra78 included in this? Their first edit was in October 2021 much before the last SPI and the only point of overlap is at Ambedkarism. I'd revert that too, anyone who wants to turn it into a redirect needs to take it through AfD, where it'll almost certainly be speedily kept. Even the other two could be explained by a shared interest in topics related to Punjabi Dalits/Dalits in general, far from uncommon, though they do look suspicious. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 10:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * All three are somewhere between and .  There's some commonalities, but it's all very wide IP ranges and (mostly) very common user agents.   is the order of the day. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there anything in the logs that links and ? Checking the archive it seems like those two plus  and  may be a different master and require splitting off. DatGuyTalkContribs 21:08, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * - ChaudharyRavidassia edits from several different IP ranges. Checks in the CU logs show that that range was checked following a check of BhaujanStar, which would be consistent with these accounts being the same person (but obviously not conclusive on its own - it's a wide range). That range doesn't show up in any of the notes we have for Deepcruze, and looking at the archive it doesn't look like we were ever confident they were connected. I haven't looked at the editing - do you think it's enough to block and split off? Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  12:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I see many notable patterns within these accounts that I don't see with the rest of the Deepcruze accounts, and the technical data for them was also relatively weak compared to the other socks mentioned in the archives:
 * I'd say they should be split off into their own case and blocked and tagged as such. As for this SPI, I concur with the comments above about  being unrelated. I've yet to make a determination and will look further into  but at this point it seems they've got wax in their ears and may be indeffed for disruptive editing soon. DatGuyTalkContribs 12:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * your evidence only promotes my theory. I would recommend against creating 2 SPIs because it will only get more difficult to report - these are two different groups of socks. It's the other way around, merging the two SPIs will only make it more confusing. DatGuyTalkContribs 17:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * - please could a clerk more competent than myself split out the accounts listed above into a separate case, and tag accordingly? Thanks  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  13:04, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding for the record that I don't think is a part of this - their editing style is different, as is the CU data. I haven't looked at .  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  13:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I filed a pro-forma report at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/BhaujanStar. I'm going to close this as it looks like the consensus is that the outstanding accounts are not related to this case. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I filed a pro-forma report at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/BhaujanStar. I'm going to close this as it looks like the consensus is that the outstanding accounts are not related to this case. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)