Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dereks1x/Archive

Report date May 27 2009, 17:21 (UTC)

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 * : Case filed to enable archiving of account data by nixeaglebot. All accounts previously confirmed. Nathan  T 17:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


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14 June 2011

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Pretty straight-forward, is already blocked, keeps making the same unfounded accusations against several editors  and admins. Tarc (talk) 01:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Logan Talk Contributions 01:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Block and tag, straightforward. MacMedtalk stalk 01:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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Blocked. Elockid  ( Talk ) 01:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - and highly likely to be again -  A l is o n  ❤ 03:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've updated this case to reflect Dereks1x as the master per findings. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 22:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

01 December 2011

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Based on overlapping edits and earlier socks with names that started LewisIs… and LewisThe…. . Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 01:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * It's to be  based on a number of indicators. Either way, all the below accounts are ✅ as being the same editor;




 * No other socks that I can see - A l is o n  ❤ 01:47, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * So only one of the three I listed? That's definitely odd, as their styles overlap exactly. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 02:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sorry! My bad. Yes, there are others. These accounts are also ✅




 * I've also blocked one or two shared IPs. Sorry about the confusion earlier - A l is o n  ❤ 10:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Blocked and tagged the three unblocked accounts. Closing as nothing left to do. Alexandria (chew out) 14:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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All of these users have edits on very similar pages, most commonly on those related to women's college basketball teams and standings. This has been consistent for many years, including with accounts that were previously banned due to confirmation of sockpuppetry.

There are a large number of examples to support this evidence, so I will list a number of examples for each user. The examples I will list here is a common disruptive edit this user makes, which is to put incorrect dates in the templates of college basketball standings. If you look on Lewisthejayhawk's talk page, you will see that the user was given a temporary ban for very similar disruptive edits in the past. Specifically in these edits, the user continues to (incorrectly) change the date to one that is in the future after being told numerous times not to do so.

Lewisthejayhawk: Diff 1, Diff 2, Diff 3, Diff 4, Diff 5

107.0.12.249: Diff 1, Diff 2, Diff 3, Diff 4, Diff 5

174.24.214.112: Diff 1, Diff 2, Diff 3, Diff 4, Diff 5

206.188.36.139: Diff 1, Diff 2, Diff 3, Diff 4, Diff 5

Furthermore, the IP addresses listed appear to be all in close physical proximity to each other, that being in the Seattle, WA area. Zachlp (talk) 22:14, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've also added 174.24.216.45, 206.188.36.26, 206.188.36.42, 206.188.36.85, 206.188.36.147 above for examination.—Bagumba (talk) 08:05, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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Blocked all users except 174.24.214.112, which is a bit stale, as WP:DUCKs of pervious "Lewis" accounts. The IP range 206.188.36.* was blocked due to long-term evasion. Marking for close.—Bagumba (talk) 08:36, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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Users have restored an edit, by an account that has been blocked as being a sockpuppet of this user Has also created and edited a page which is currently marked for speedy deletion. Saku ura Cart elet  Talk 17:00, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

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Blocked. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 23:56, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

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Quack quack and pretty much all of the rest of the contribs have significant crossover with this master, which is kinda weird since the account is more than 5 years old but the naming convention also fits. See here: Sockpuppet_investigations/Dereks1x/Archive CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  21:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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So it is okay if I can use this account under Lewisthebeaver since I haven't use this in 4 years? I like to know please, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewisthebeaver (talk • contribs) 21:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

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Blocked as WP:DUCK.—Bagumba (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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Seattle98168 recreated 2016–17 New Mexico State Aggies women's basketball team, created by previous socks. Interest in women's college basketball like past socks, and previous socks identified as being from Seattle. 174.21.123.65 has been editing since last sock was blocked, and has been editing same articles that Seattle98168 creates.—Bagumba (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC) —Bagumba (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Accounts blocked and tagged as needed.—Bagumba (talk) 17:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Recreation of 2017 Colorado Buffaloes football team which has been repeatedly created by socks from this SPI + username similarity from the last sock. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  21:00, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

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- I'm not at all familiar with this master, so will defer to a CU with more experience with them. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 21:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ to multiple blocked socks in the archive.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:37, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * User blocked and tagged.—Bagumba (talk) 11:22, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

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See contribs for a few recreations and obvious username similarity + subject matter. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  01:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


 * And now there is this. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  01:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * - - Primefac (talk) 01:21, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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Recreation of templates created by other socks, including this and that. Primefac (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Primefac (talk) 00:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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Recreation (identically) of Template:Washington Huskies women's basketball navbox and. Primefac (talk) 11:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I also added (and blocked) the above IP for edits that added the template to their related pages. Primefac (talk) 12:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Primefac (talk) 11:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sleepers? Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 01:05, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 16:09, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Perennial recreation of Washington Huskies women's basketball navbox and IP-addition to the related articles. Asking for CU mainly for sleepers. Primefac (talk) 16:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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Recreation of several Derek articles + naming convention, followed by cross editing with second sock in this report and focus entirely on same subject area. Requesting CU for sleepers and a block for as it appears to be a block evasion. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  12:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:04, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - to confirm socking. I've also hardblocked the IP.
 * - Katietalk 01:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * RochesterNY1992 and are ✅ to each other.
 * RebelNutt18 is ❌. Katietalk 01:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  08:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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New account recreating G5'd article 2019 Diamond Head Classic. Editing in the same topic area as master (College Basketball). Seems like a duck to me, but requesting CU to find sleepers. Kb03 (talk) 14:45, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging as they blocked the previous account SpaceCity713 Kb03 (talk) 14:57, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * How the hell did the college basketball editor get linked to Dereks1x in the first place? It's not apparent in any of the investigations here. Dereks1x edited political stuff and had nothing to do with college basketball. College basketball editor certainly is guilty of using multiple accounts, and I'm astounded at their persistance in trying to contribute to Wikipedia. I guess they just think getting blocked repeatedly is normal on Wikipedia. The way it stands now, they have no hope of ever being allowed to edit unless they admit to being Dereks1x, which doesn't appear to be true. Run a check-user to confirm that college basketball guy is Dereks1x. Plantdrew (talk) 16:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , Zzuuzz linked him via a CU block log. Kb03 (talk) 17:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * As I explained at User talk:SpaceCity713, I did confirm it to two other blocked accounts (both blocked by TonyBallioni). As I also indicated, and is often the case in times like this, I can't directly link the account to the original Dereks1x account. What we do have however, is a line of sockpuppeting going back to 2011. I can approach this with an open mind, however, given the nature of Dereks1x's block log and user page, it's imperative that any appeal goes through Arbcom, and preferably someone familiar with the case. Feel free to counsel this user to that effect. I suggest they also get a grip on unreferenced articles, which seems to be a problem. -- zzuuzz (talk) 17:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are large number of basketball editing accounts going back to 2011. Sockpuppet_investigations/Dereks1x/Archive is where the basketball editor appears. A couple of their accounts had already been blocked at that point and more were blocked on 1 December, based on DUCK. Check Users have since been run to link accounts used by the basketball editor. There doesn't appear to have ever been a CU done to link the basketball editor to (politics editor) Dereks1x. My concern here is that an IP editor who was making many useful contributions to plant articles was blocked after making a few edits to college basketball articles. It seems likely that any IP who edits college basketball articles runs the risk of being blocked as a sock (and IPs do a lot of work keeping sports articles up-to-date; e.g. by adding scores of recent games). It seems like it would save a lot of trouble if the basketball editor (first editing as variants of Lewis...) could be allowed to edit from a single account, with edits from that account scrutinized, rather than regularly popping up under entirely new user names. I'm pretty convinced that Lewis... is not the same person as Dereks1x (although Lewis... clearly has used MANY accounts, and makes some problematic edits). Plantdrew (talk) 18:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping, . I discussed this with at the time. Our conclusion was that while at some point in the history two masters might have been given one name, there was block evasion going on. Speaking for myself, I’m convinced that these accounts were the sockmaster that has become known as Dereks1x. Whether or not they are the original master is largely academic at this point. They are linked to a years long history of socks both through the CU log and behaviour. Our sanctions are against people, not silly names, so that there’s a possibility we’re giving two different masters one name doesn’t change the fact that these accounts are socks, and that the CU evidence is convincing on that. I personally am not in favour of unblocking a disruptive sockmaster because a clerk 8 years ago gave the person the wrong name. Doesn’t change the problem. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:06, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I take the view that there's sockpuppeting, and then there's abusive sockpuppeting. I haven't looked very closely at how this happened (and this would be important), but I can see how a mixup might have taken place. So, from a policy perspective, this basketball editor is either Dereks1x or they are not. I think this is an important detail. Assuming they are not, they are still banned (WP:3X). The well-trodden path to seeking an unban would to a) stick to WP:OFFER, b) present a case to the community for an unban, and c) clarify the details about Dereks1x. There is a chance - only a chance - that the six months mentioned in the standard offer can be shortened, however they are going to need to stick to one account, even if it's blocked, and they are also going to need to address the referencing issues. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:36, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Also while I’m here, this account is ✅ to the basketball socks we’ve been blocking for the better part of a decade. but leaving open for now. Any clerk or CU can close. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:16, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yup, closed. If anyone wants to continue the discussion you know where to find me. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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New account created shortly after the latest block, immediately started editing WP:CBBALL articles, in particular articles that their socks have edited in the past such as 2019–20 UConn Huskies women's basketball team, 2019–20 Stanford Cardinal men's basketball team, and 2019–20 South Carolina Gamecocks men's basketball team. Requesting CU to confirm as well as find sleepers. Pinging and  as they seem to have experience with this individual. Kb03 (talk) 04:05, 10 October 2019 (UTC) Edit: Additional evidence can be found at this log. User recreated an article that was G5'd as made by a sock of Dereks1x. Kb03 (talk) 18:59, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * fwiw, although you already pinged two checkusers with more experience with this case. This account was created three days after the last batch were blocked and is editing in the same topic: can't say based on behaviour but worth a check. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:31, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Confirmed to other recent socks, with no obvious sleepers (regarding tags please see the recently archived discussion about whether this is actually Dereks1x). -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

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Created shortly after the last sockpuppet account was blocked. Username contains 206, the first part of the IP address used by this sockpuppeteer. Immediately hits many of the same articles, such as 2019–20 NC State Wolfpack men's basketball team, created by previously blocked sock, 2019–20 Washington State Cougars men's basketball team targeted by, a previously blocked sock, 2019–20 Boston College Eagles men's basketball team which was created by , a previously blocked sock, and then deleted. User has about 65 edits, all in the same general subject area as all the previous socks, all in the past four days. Yamla (talk) 19:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked without tags ST47 (talk) 20:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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New account immediately started editing articles that were edited under the last socks, they also recreated 2019–20 West Virginia Mountaineers men's basketball team which was deleted in a G5. Requesting CU to find sleepers as this user has a history of them as well as to confirm definitively. Kb03 (talk) 14:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * I am fairly confident that this is ❌. ST47 (talk) 14:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Apart from constructing a similar-looking table, there's not enough similarity between the content in the revision that the blocked sock used before the article was deleted, and the content that's in the revision that the accused sock puppet account added when creating the article. I don't see enough behavioral evidence to assert that action is justified here.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:36, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hearing some quacking on this. Recently blocked socks and  both created pages of the naming pattern "2019–20 TEAM FUBAR men's basketball team". PierceCounty253 has done the same (Special:Log/PierceCounty253).

PierceCounty253 was created shortly after Seahawks206 was blocked.

Like the previous socks, PierceCounty253 is created large tables of game schedules (e.g., ).

Given that this sockmaster continues to make multiple sockpuppets, I am asking for a CU to confirm the account's connection and to look for sleepers.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅ is also  and . User blocked. - Mailer Diablo 23:59, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Everything in sight is already blocked, so I'm going to go ahead and close this. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:01, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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DUCK, new account recreating G5'd article 2019–20 South Florida Bulls men's basketball team, Requesting CU to confirm and find sleepers as this master has a history of them. Kb03 (talk) 15:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Bluejay has edits exclusively on sports pages and mainly on YEAR City FUBAR season articles. I think that's a quack.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:40, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You're not wrong, and there's also a username similarity (e.g. with ), but Bluejay14 edits football articles, not basketball articles. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Good catch! I didn't see that (which speaks to my lack of sports knowledge). I still think it's more likely than not a sock, but wonder what others have to say.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * KingCounty2016 is ✅,.
 * is ✅ but.
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * is ✅. Bluejay14 doesn't appear to be related, and I would call that account technically at best. Tukwila98168, closing. ST47 (talk) 03:34, 21 December 2019 (UTC)